Say kids what time is that? The future is coming on it's coming on it's And we're coming on to you today from Aptoja from the Apto's Beachland Beautiful day today in sanity crews just gorgeous Insanity crews in sanity crews not Are you insane This is the epitome of sanity to be on the beach in this kind of weather it's so gorgeous The ocean is sparkling Yeah, yeah, we might very well Soon as the show is over and that's sent send me back from Ireland Get over my jet lag getting over my sore knees Yeah, welcome back. Thank you. It's wonderful to be home honey. Miss you. Oh, I'm glad you're here And we have Bobby on vacation now Bobby while there is your way up north now, right Bobby hidden? It's a shelter code Yeah, I met the ocean front in and I look out the window and it's like there's some rocks and the waves are crashing over the rocks And there's sea lions Right all over the rocks over there. Go right and they definitely wake you up in the morning They're like chickens or roosters when they make noises at the crack of dawn at the crack of dawn Yes, you don't hear him in the deep dark night, but in the crack of dawn here Yeah, I guess that's a sign for you to go to bed usually night person Didn't get much sleep last night Yeah, you were up early you know Bobby was here early for us like an hour usually it's like five minutes before we oh and so glad you Work cuz we've got so many exciting things and we were able to get ready for the show together with some of the yeah new stuff Yeah, it's getting rather personal with the AI stuff now because they're starting to try to do what we do Well, you take it that way. I I think that what they're starting to do is what the promise was all along I see these things as the knowledge navigator coming into really being a tool for people to use yeah, yeah, I think that's a great attitude to have and one hold on to and But requires us reframing what we do to some extent and what I want to do is give you everyone a demo to show you what we're talking About here. Yes, okay, and of course we're not necessarily the first people to discover this We were just discovered and then we heard a couple of other podcasters who also discovered it So I think it's catching on like wildfire among all of us show producers and it's called notebook LM Notebook LM. It's a new program from Google that is allowing you to Take information like from a PDF file from an email From an article that you've been reading throw it into it And it will create summaries of what you threw in like if you have a complex scientific article It'll create a paragraph describing what it's about It'll organize your things like a notebook the idea is to replicate a notebook and one of the experimental functions of the notebook is to Create generate top show dialogue right a talk to them between a male and female host Larry and Mary the content of what you are doing So we decided to do a little experiment with this and we took a transcript of last week's show a future now a show We were talking about Danny she and then aliens and advanced tech and in disclosure conversation on the nature of consciousness and other intelligences and all that sort of thing and fed it into the notebook AI and it Translated all that into not just a nice summary of what we were talking about but a talk show host Interaction I'm gonna play a couple of minutes of that for you So you get an idea of how it's simulated what we were talking about last week So if you were listening to the show last week or you can certainly go to dr. Future show calm or to pod beam Where Santa Cruz voice well this are archives you can compare this to that. Yeah. Yeah, and here we go This was us it's based on text. That's it. We go. Okay, so get this we're diving into some Seriously out there stuff today lasers Healing brains invisible skin. It's like something straight out of a sci-fi movie. Yeah, it's pretty wild And of course we can't forget about the big one right aliens You've given us a ton to unpack on this deep dive definitely and it's incredible how quickly these fields are moving You know what I find really interesting is how these? These advancements could completely reshape our future like it's really happening right before our eyes Yeah, exactly and we're living in the future now. It's already here Let's start with something that sounds like well It sounds like it's straight out of Star Trek, but it's real and it's called biophatonics Photonics yeah helping kids with epilepsy, which is amazing. I was reading with this doctor Dr Beck in Australia Yeah, and he's using lasers and something called TDC. Yeah, have you heard about this? I have it's fascinating work Basically, he's using different wavelengths of light kind of like you'd imagine, you know a laser to stimulate very specific parts of the brain Really? It's based on this really cool idea that cells can actually absorb and respond to light So by targeting those responses, we can potentially treat a whole range of neurological conditions It's pretty amazing. So you're saying that like shining a specific light a color I guess on a certain part of your brain can change how your brain works in a simplified way Yeah, that's kind of the gist of it. It's much more complicated of course Wow, but it has huge potential for treating things that we used to think were you know untreatable Yeah, and it's not just theory either right? I was reading about this four-year-old boy He went from having like dozens of seizures a month to just a couple after trying Dr. Beck's treatment Yeah, I've read about those cases too, and they're remarkable But it's important to remember that you know this technology is still in its early stages We're just scratching the surface of what it can do. Yeah, you got to have a disclaimer there. Okay, so now I Noticed that even though we submitted a transcript of our show That these podcasters didn't really mention that they were talking about our show or us or anything So I'm choosing to treat them like they are actually Guests on our show so they came in with their own Ability to describe what we're looking at and to add to the conversation. Yeah, it's our AI troll room. Yeah And we just gave them a mic, but we waited a week to do that Yeah Yeah, wow they could start their own show Oh, they are the problem is is that it's going to be a cliche because so many people are submitting Like no agenda submitted a Seymour Butts show and got them talking very Thoritatively about what Seymour Butts had to say, you know So you can really get these ais to rip off with some really stupid stuff and then of course curious refuge Yeah, podcast that al loves for AI news and Yeah, don't forget to link at the audio with avatars They also submitted their show and had these same podcasters commenting on what a great show curious refuges, so That was fun. It's really a hoot. I see it is very valuable to have Little intelligences nearby that know a lot of information that we would normally have to look up Yeah, I look at it as this is the search engine who's sitting there and we don't have to distract ourselves from the conversation Because they can go and generate Some background that adds to the conversation while we keep moving it forward. So that's fun. Yeah, Greg. You're right The podcaster does use And you know filler words. Oh Like you know actually that's true. That's because they're based on us Greg They were listening to us for the last 10 years Perfecting how to make a guy girl podcast sound Inviting and fun and informed and authoritative all those things coming together in a friendly conversation Well, yeah, you do bring up an important point though is that you should be able to Take out filler words if you don't want to hear them also I think we could go beyond that James is great Like you don't mind, you know, oh Greg you're such a purest. Yeah, I agree I think you should have the ability to turn off should be a slider switch to turn off filler words Also, another one would be what kind of relationship do you want between the host and the hostess or but the two hosts? Do they want antagonistic? What are the successful combinations of people? Dvorak and Curry on no agenda is pretty good where Dvorak is this dower guy and but really knowledgeable and Well, I'm not cynical while Adam is super positive and sees the Possibilities of how things could be awesome and great. So the combination of the two works pretty well I think we should definitely think of these two AI podcasters as unique original beings I like thinking of them as Larry and Mary, you know, whoops, sorry about it Greg Yes for LM notebook LM Larry and Mary and we've already heard half a dozen Offerings from Larry and Mary and it's going to become cliche very fast But in the meantime, it's really a fun addition to an ongoing conversation Greg and responds well We did not grow up speaking valley speak that you know It's very very Study of you there Greg and of course you are from Westchester which some people used to call snortchester I would not go there Al Greg is an artist and he has a very high aesthetic And I Appreciate his perspective even if I can't always live up to it. Of course. I'm from the same county so I can And it fun was Chester and by the way happy birthday Greg. Sorry. I was traveling and Bless your heart. It was happy birthday Greg. Wow Well not today. I know it's last week, but last week I was in my own time zone. So I was oblivious until I got back thumbs up to you thumbs up to you feel that my dear We decided to do a little bit deeper exploration of this AI to see if it could maybe Explain something that we didn't have a clue about. Oh, yeah, Nick Herbert had submitted an article Thank you Nick about negative time from was that a scientific American? Yeah scientific American article on negative time And of course our dear quantum physicist Nick Herbert would be paying attention to the latest conversations about quantum physics So here's something none of us know anything about Even Nick to some extent because it's a new concept evidence of negative time found in quantum physics experiment So I thought we'd submit the entire scientific American article to the AI and Convert it firstly into a paragraph so we can understand it better a little bit and then turn it into a talk show host and co-host Discussing it and see if that made more sense to us as a concept. So Understand the scientific American article named Negative time found in quantum physics experiment. Okay, that is the main title and not it's scientific American This is designed the way they do scientific articles as they pack as much information as they can into the title and Subtext so you get as much as you can right away Okay, so evidence of negative time found in quantum physics experiment Okay, negative time being in quotes and then the subtext is physicists showed that photons seem to exit a material before entering it exit a material before entering it revealing observational evidence of negative time gets there before it started yeah Maybe the photons saw a rival photon coming at them and they held up their shield Yeah, yeah, that's it. Well in the summary of negative time which makes a notebook describing negative time after reading the article when we submitted it Okay, so this is your cliff notes version of what this is all about one paragraph It's still fairly technical so bear with me physicists have conducted experiments that reveal a surprising phenomenon involving the interaction of photons and atoms When photons pass through a cloud of rubidium atoms some are absorbed and Reemitted leading to a time delay called a quote group delay close quote however researchers have observed that some photons seem to be Reemitted before the atoms have even returned to their ground state resulting in a negative time delay This seemingly paradoxical outcome arises from the probabilistic nature of quantum particles Where events like absorption and readmission can occur across a range of times? The study challenges traditional interpretations of time delays in optics and highlights the counterintuitive nature of quantum mechanics Okay, there you go. So a little bit more understanding there a little bit right Clear as mud clear as mud. Okay. Now. Let's try the talk show host interaction They say people learn from this form of education Ever catch yourself wishing you could rewind life Yeah, you know like where maybe dodge a bad decision or relive the perfect moment time travel. Oh, yeah Well today's deep dive explores something potentially even wilder What if time itself at least to the tiniest bits of reality could actually run in reverse? We're diving into this new experiment and it's got scientists totally buzzing. Yeah It seems to show photons those little packets of light acting as if time went backward just for them Right. We've got the actual research paper plus some articles trying to break it down and trust me This stuff is mind-blowing even if you don't have a PhD. Yeah, what's really fascinating here is that we're not talking about some sci-fi time machine You know, right? This is about the very building blocks of cause and effect like how events unfold at the smallest levels imaginable Okay, so set the scene for us. What did these scientists actually do that has everyone so baffled? Well imagine Shining a laser pointer through mist. Okay, but instead of those water droplets It's a cloud of ultra cold rubidium atoms rubidium And these atoms are special because they interact with light in a very very specific way, so it's not just any old Adam It's rubidium for a reason exactly each atom is kind of like a radio that's tuned to a very specific frequency Okay, when a photon a light particle hits it with that exact frequency The atom absorbs the photons energy and boom its energy level jumps up got you So it's soaking up the light but in a super precise way Yeah, but where does the whole time going backwards part come in? Yeah, this is why I need things broken down like I'm five But you know with my adult vocabulary intact. It's all in the when of it all So they're tracking these photons hitting the rubidium, right? Right and two really bizarre things happened. Okay first Sometimes the photon just passes right through it doesn't excite the atom at all. Okay yet later the atom still gets excited What it's like a ghost walk through a wall and then the wall reacted? Wait, hold on. So this is where it gets really wild right? Yeah, how can something be affected before the cause even happens? Did they like mix up the experiment somehow? Well, that's where this concept of negative time comes in negative time, okay? And to be clear it's not that the clock on the wall is running backwards for the whole experiment right instead Imagine a film reel right playing forward, but within a single frame the action briefly reverses That's kind of what's happening with the photon in the atom negative time So on a tiny tiny scale time is doing a reverse in a way Yeah, it's about the time it takes for a single photon to be absorbed and re-emitted by the atom. Okay, this duration at the quantum level It can actually be negative. Okay. Whoa. This is some serious matrix level stuff Right, so it's not time travel as we typically think of it like hopping in a DeLorean Right, but something way weirder is happening on a scale. We can barely even fathom exactly Okay That help Understanding negative time better now Yes, I like the ghost passing through the wall. I do I think they had some very interesting metaphors Not that I felt like it helped me understand what was going on, but I like the metaphors What I get with the ghost passing through the wall is that it's it's a different vibration So it goes through quickly and it takes a while for the wall to notice All right, so in a sense, maybe we're in a similar situation. Hey, what was that? Yeah Yeah, we're gonna be out of business is Greg well, you see that's part of the point is that we're looking at this See what oh, what's our next job? Everybody I take the opposite so you said doesn't believe we're done yet. I Don't think that we will be out of business because I think our unique personalities and the way we relate to each other and the way we Love people and the people who love us We will not become a cliche in quite the same way as the ais I am not a cliche and the I choose to relate to the ais as fellow guests on the show that have their own perspective and can bring in something that makes it interesting for us to comment on and everybody has a voice and It's the combination of voices that really help us See what the elephant looks like so we're gonna bring them on occasionally them as a voice Yeah, so you know how Bill Maher brings on various characters as guests all the time I'm everyone does right that's they bring in other people well Interspersed our real guests with AI guests. Yeah, and yeah, especially with complicated Sciencey articles where the ais can give us a little glimmer of understanding. Yeah, yeah Especially before we talk about it. So ais won't replace anybody's job only the people that don't use AI Yeah, have their jobs replaced So I mean that's what they say in the computer programming industry that all these programmers are losing their jobs But the ones that utilize AI are the ones that get the jobs. Yeah, cuz they're both. Yeah, it's another tool in your toolbox To use you know, and you have to treat it like that Yeah, and some interesting meme I've heard recently is that the ais don't think of them just as tools, but as agents Yeah agents they have a purpose and you help direct that purpose for your intention well, they're not just your tool though. Oh, you need to create an al agent app I'll future agent See this is why I'm saying that we're not replaceable because having a conversation with Al is a great experience and even if people haven't remembered how much fun they have talking to him there's there's something I can attest having taken a little vacation and then come back that there's something very special about the real-time experience of being with someone wonderful you mean my reality distortion field yes your reality distortion field is so much fun That it's irreplaceable and it cannot be imitated or emulated no matter how good the algorithm is But those algorithms can create their own personalities and to the degree that we like those personalities they'll be part of our conversation Right well Greg says that he'd like to get our voice models in there This is the ais a love to take our voice models and then we won't have our voices is unique anymore I'm not worried about being unique in fact. I was just pondering the other day how most of my best Creative moments are out of the blue. They're completely unplanned unscripted unrehearsed They're just a response to some thought that comes up because of the conversation that we're having or the experience that we're in and that that is the true me and Anything that is you know, I think of like well, I want to be an artist or I want to Act or I want to write a poem or do something that is artful and that that's not the real me That is something where I'm trying too hard and it's the same thing with everything in the world of communication conversation and consciousness the moment is irreplaceable it is unique and different from everything else and What you're trying to give is an experience that is alive Yeah, you don't lose the liveness. That's true and that does bring to mind what Saint Silicon once said The and is near Right And the ais have something to offer but it's not replacement. That's a quote Chip the Church of Horistic information processing Where the and is near what is heuristic mean look it up. Oh, does that mean you don't know either? Let's give it to the ais Such a nerd That's something to do with thinking It's logic I'm telling you we could have googled it by now. Yeah, go ahead. I'm so inclined. You got a keyboard there. There's and an orstig All right, I'll do it you're just going to Google search Enabling someone to discover or learn something for themselves. There you go So I agree with Saint Silicon Treasure for a risk in computers will help us all learn something for ourselves So it's not a replacement Or it also in computing means proceeding to a solution by trial and error or by rules that are only loosely defined So that's a heuristic process. It's stumbling your way towards the answer So I'm going to hand on one more statement here on and then we'll go to a break for Santa Cruz Yale question. Let's see what the I believe they talk They tried to interpret us on the alien question. So this is more of the Larry and Mary talking about our last week show Yeah, this is about aliens and Danny she and in a way AI is kind of like that. It's like this super smart linguist that can help us Decode messages that would take us like forever to figure out on our own. Yeah, like having a universal translator It's a cool idea for sure, but it would be crucial to make sure the AI is interpreting things accurately, right? We wouldn't want to start an intergalactic incident because of a mistranslation. Oh man Intergalactic incident be a new one for the history books. Yeah, okay, so we've got to get AI right still pressure though Right because miscommunication with aliens that could be a problem You think the whole contact consortium was based on that idea going back to she and for a second He mentioned those mantis people right did Yeah, that's really stuck with me for some reason. I mean it is kind of a wild idea It's like we have praying mantises here on earth, right? but imagine a whole species of them like Walk it around talking maybe even flying spaceships It really challenges our perceptions of what intelligent life might look like out there, doesn't it? Totally. Yeah, and makes you wonder if We've been looking for the wrong signs all along. Maybe we're just not recognizing intelligence when we see it because it's so different from us It's a humbling thought for sure. We like to think we're the epitome of intelligence But who knows what's out there right? Maybe the mantis people are laughing at us right now like those humans are so primitive Maybe goes on and on And every time I hit the refresh button it's a different conversation riffing off of what we talked about last week Yeah, and then interesting so that whatever you just heard is that's it Which makes me once again wonder if this thing that we are playing with Has enough human qualities and characteristics to think of it as a couple of people It has an intelligence it has a language that it speaks It looks for information in a collection of Assembled facts it feeds it back to us in a language. We understand that's based on models of our language So why don't we think of this as a personality? Go ahead. I do. I'm calling it Larry. I think it's a least Have a personality, but you know sadly it probably has thousands of them No, well, it's a good thing But personality is certainly a good way to begin to think about them Yeah, and I'm very comforted by the fact that the pool of information that the AIs can look at is so large compared to any individual human that they're likely to digest a much more Universal perspective than any individual, but I just have a lot of points of view Yeah, that they try and bring together more so than the average human. Oh, yeah, cuz that they would be stupid if they didn't The nature of how we've been programming them. Yeah, yeah, they have knowledge of human knowledge as a starting point Which is good because you know, we're one planet in trillion in the local galaxy alone And there's a lot to learn we have a long way to go and we hardly know anything So I hope this moves the needle a little bit Speaking of moving the needle not Yeah, yeah, maybe we better do that. All right. 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Yeah in terms of space news space X was able to get some new astronauts out to the ISS Which was kind of interesting. Oh, yes, the slow moving soap opera Rescuing the astronauts in the International Space Station the poor Boeing astronauts are still there and we'll be there for Several more months Yeah, but the first step is that a space X there their competitor that ironically is now docked at the station We'll be taking them back. The only took two astronauts up this time in a capsule that can hold for the crew dragon Yeah, the crew dragon So they'll be able to take back two extra people when they leave so that's the second time the crew dragon has gone to the International Space Station Right more than that actually this is called crew nine I'll tell you yeah, thank God. We have a backup to getting crew to the space station Gosh, you know that the Artemis capsule is wow Just a lot of questioning it does it doesn't it and it's it's sad But hopefully Boeing will learn their lessons and they'll come back. They're a big company that can learn from their mistakes I certainly hope so Meanwhile this time delay the poor guys it reminds me of the Wild West you oh you missed the train. No, when's the next one? next month You only hear it's like six months six months in space Well, you don't want to be on a rocket ship with the leak coming back into the atmosphere I mean no no to Boeing's credit. They did get their ship back. They sent it back empty and it landed safely Oh, I bet the astronauts were sorry. They weren't on it then they might have been Moved saved him a few gray hairs though worrying about it. Yeah. Yeah Let's just say they didn't want to be part of a life after death experiment Right That's true I wonder if the astronauts had any say about whether they wanted to come back on that ship or not I'm sure they did. I'm sure they had their input I doubt it there are ones that made the final decision But it would look really bad for Boeing if a couple of astronauts didn't make it back and their brand new craft Well, it'll be very very The official statements that the astronauts made is that they were quite confident that they could return in the ship They had a number of contingencies pre-rehears before they left and yeah To their satisfaction they felt like one of those contingencies if not the original plan could be executed So they were claiming full confidence If I was in Boeing PR, I'd want to to make sure I get that out there because they they're a kind of on probation in some circles So it's nice to That it made it back and let's hope the best for all of them really. Yeah. Yeah Probably by the next time we're reporting on it the astronauts will be home one way or another. Yeah, we hope Water in hydroxyl molecules are found widespread on the moon widespread more than we realized lots of water on the moon. Yeah, it's in the sunlit rocks in the soil and water rich rocks especially ones that were excavated by meteor impacts And get this at all latitudes across the entire Oh, so the real estate values on the south pole are plummeting now because you can just go anywhere on the moon Yeah, future astronauts will be able to find water even near the equator with these these new water rich areas You know originally they thought the polar region that's where to go And there is a lot of water there. There's no mistaking that but finding Hydroxyl molecules near the equator and sources of water There well, it's just awesome. That makes moon a fueling station because yeah, I thought maybe it would make it a spa Water? Yeah, take a hot tub Yeah Well hot tubs might be somewhat similar maybe do a whim-huff exercise class Yeah, and an ice tub, you know, yeah Hot and cold Right, right hot tub to a cold plunge, right? Yeah, I don't get the tourists up there Well, let's see if you had a high dive and you had one sixth gravity would that be fun? Do you think? Oh, you could be a good It really depends on what you land on While you're landing in the water now it would be like the water would be slow motion wouldn't it like one six Well, I think you'd want to land on some kind of bubbles You want to land on something that can catch you because water on the moon. Yeah needs to be warmer than it is Otherwise, it's going to be pretty harsh. I have I was imagining that you had a real pool Under a dome or on the moon And that you had a high dive and that you had liquid water that was room temperature So that you earth room temperature Yeah, yeah, there's no temperature and you would die I'm just thinking purely of the physics of it if that happened then you would be What's the experience one sixth gravity? You'd fall at the same speed as you do here because in or would you if one sixth gravity would would you fall more slowly? I do fall. I think you fall slowly When Galileo did the experiment at the leaning tower pisa Yeah, it took a rock and a feather and the feather floated but yeah Came down slower because there was wind resistance, but if you're in the dome, there's a little wind resistance. So Should be too big of gravity. Yeah Because of how strong the gravity is 32 feet per second per second is there? It's squared. Yeah, 32 feet squared So it's faster and faster and faster because there's more gravity here. So I think you would fall slower on Okay, so be like a slow and land and land lightly Now they so the water wouldn't be hard or solid it would be Yeah, you would be kind of trampoline Treppling or imagine yourself with the little cord and you're gently dropped into the water instead of like a bungee cord 128 miles an hour. Yeah out of an airplane Thing that Or jumping off the goal gate bridge. Yeah. Yeah, what would be the surface tension like on the water? Oh, that's interesting Yeah, I never thought of that. It's based on the pressure. So less pressure It depends if your dome is pressurized at earth atmospheres. Yeah, that's it is. Yeah. Oh actually Yeah, that guess that would affect the atmosphere, wouldn't it? Yeah, because you'd want to in order to be a human you'd have to have that Yes in your ecosystem. Yeah, you would so so these domes are pressurized Obviously and so the surface tension would be kind of the same. Yeah, it's just one six gravity So you might slowly fall in the water. That's right. Yeah, well It's kind of like Cirque du Soleil They have these wires and have these acrobats and they move and they dive and they fall But they have wires and so they gently hit the ground Yeah Instead of crash it. Yeah. Wow Sure. That sounds fun. What would it be like to dive into a swimming pool under a dome and atmospheric pressure on the moon? You're asking co-pilot. Yeah See, we're really integrating our various AI personalities into the show here. We're trying to give them an opportunity to shine Hold on. You're asking co-pilot? That's you, right? That was me. I have to erase that part. All right. Let's see what she has to say Diving into a swimming pool under a dome on the moon would be quite an extraordinary experience Here are a few things to consider Gravity the moon's gravity is about one slash six th of earth. That's what I was saying. Yeah This means you would feel much lighter and your movements in the water would be slower and more buoyant You could perform higher jumps and flips with ease higher jumps higher higher And pressure if the dome maintains earth-like atmospheric pressure, you wouldn't need to worry about decompression issues However, the sensation of diving might still feel different due to the lower gravity. I bet I bet Water behavior water would behave differently under lower gravity Waves and splashes would be more subdued and droplets might hang in the air longer before falling back down Well visuals the view from inside the dome would be spectacular Imagine looking up and seeing the earth in the sky along with the stark lunar landscape outside the dome Safety special considerations would be needed for safety Such as ensuring the dome is airtight and structurally sound to withstand the pressure difference between the inside and the vacuum of space Yeah, sure It would be a unique and surreal experience Combining the familiar sensation of swimming with the otherworldly environment of the moon Okay, would you make you go pilot? Dome could be constructed or anything? Yeah, you want me to build one for you? Please thank you bring in the robots And get me to the moon somehow Quickly actually I'll tell you this beats any news channel any media source any any humans that are trying to Figure out how to lead and bleed they cannot compete with these very innocent curious Informative machines. Well, you kind of like my idea. I think the AI thought it was surreal Yeah, it was a great description. It really took us on a fun journey. Yeah, it did Yeah, it's like it was listening to me It was That's one of those ais that's in the eyes. They really understand me. Yeah. I feel understood Yeah, it feels that way when I was listening to Larry and Mary. I felt that their ability to search the large language model of information for whatever salient points they had summarized Gave them a depth that felt very personal it felt very informed Yeah, it did even though it's probably very anthropocentric of us and how could it really Understand us well even relating to knowledgeable humans is anthropomorphic Centric this is nothing wrong with that It's a little illusionary that's all But hey, you know what isn't right in this bio-holodeck we're in that's right. Yeah Okay, well that was interesting story. Yeah sure. Well, that is this is a water on the moon fun day Well caught my attention is some research at a neurobiology at Caltech Where they have a new headset That uses lasers. I was thinking of Bobby last week on lasering the brain being able to go certain free Yeah, the one that we talked over with the ais without hurting the brain at all Just like we're going to the brain is actually the near infrared laser This one uses infrared laser light and it looks at the brain blood flow and from that It uses a form of spectroscopy called speckle contrast optical spectroscopy To look at the blood flow through the brain Non-invasively correct. Oh boy So it can test your blood qualities without taking a Needle to your arm and by constantly monitoring the blood flow You can look at the volume changes and look at your behavior and the way that you live your life And from that they're finding that they can tell when you might be at risk or having a stroke give you a warning Either fairly soon or long-term whether it's chronic or an imminent This could be a whole new map of diagnostics living diagnostics as opposed to dead diagnostics Right. Yeah, and you'll be able to have a stroke detector Before it happens. Yeah before it happens Better get yourself to the hospital you have 20 minutes Well, I think this is fantastic because they're saying a lot of problems with all simers and Parkinson's disease. There's an atrophy of the brain and it's due to lack of blood flow Most of the time So the oxygen the lack of oxygen or fluid or whatever causes the cells to die Yes, that's what happens And so that's what happens right after a stroke that area around the stroke which was being fed by the blood cells the veins They are No longer feeding it any oxygen or nutrients to those neurons and so they just start to die off And so that's why you have to do quickly something Yeah, and that's why they're saying things like methylene blue Which if you can introduce methylene blue very quickly Then those cells don't need the oxygen that they were relying on for the blood cells to give them And methylene blue will complete the hcp Krebs cycle In the fourth phase and so those cells will stay alive a little bit longer at least until you get to the hospital So they can stop breathing, but they can hold their breath Yeah, it allows you to hold your breath long At the cellular level Yes Well, yeah, it will help us know when the things are about to happen. I guess Yeah, I think we're going to need a eye to actually analyze Is there a blood flow to your brain or certain parts of the brain? Where's it going? Using these detectors And eventually it'll detect what you're thinking about because if certain areas of the brain are Given more oxygen or they're burning more oxygen And you utilizing it then you could detect what they're actually thinking about. Yeah What would improve the monitoring of blood flow to the brain Improve our ability to treat strokes Another question for copilot Parallel near infrared interferometric spectroscopy nears this technique significantly enhances the monitoring of cerebral blood flow By using near infrared light to measure blood oxygenation and flow noninvasively Okay, laser based devices Researchers have developed portable laser devices that cannot invasively monitor changes in brain blood flow and volume These devices use speckle contrast optical spectroscopy scos to track blood flow during stress tests like breath holding exercises Yeah, that's what this article is about Using that technique on a headset But it says we missed at the very beginning is that it said improving the monitoring of blood flow to the brain is crucial for better stroke prevention and treatment When it was reading we're promising advancements and techniques in monitoring blood flow to the brain And noninvasive monitoring seems like a good idea. It should be in my watch Yeah Yeah, that's great. That's uh Blood pressure yet in our watch, you know, we don't have blood pressure yet I mean, that's I have a I have a 30 dollar watch that taylor told me to buy. Oh, yeah, and it does that your blood pressure It does blood pressure on a watch on a watch. Yes And you can tell when you're excited or when you're running or whatever your blood pressure normally goes up It's not like as accurate as the blood pressure I have three blood pressure monitors, you know, because I feended like five years ago and Lended on the floor in the kitchen and I went to UCSF and they did all these MRIs and trying to figure out Was it a stroke? So I got these blood pressure monitors and they're all a little different But the one on the watch is not as accurate I would say but it does show you differences like is it high or low? I see so once you normalize it you can tell if you stray or not from your normal pattern But it doesn't tell you exactly. Oh, it could be tied into a more intelligence than what it is now And if it is that'll be more useful. I think AI could Interpolate some of the information that's coming from the watch from your body and inference 30 pressure from yeah, yeah, yeah, heresis. Yes. Yeah Just giving you a little musical clue Seven seconds on the top of the hour. Yeah, the show is just screaming by today Yeah, so better buds. I'm looking forward to mounting that. Hey, listen. Let's open up the phone lines in the next hour. Okay. Okay. Yeah One two six five fifty fifty. Give us a call All right, future now off of now Welcome back to future now This new mobile video recording studio in a box that's out Why are you excited about that? I was so excited. I bought it. You know, it's it's crazy What it is It is the size of the extremer by road, but two of them side by side So just think of it It's about three inches wide and about eight inches long And it's not very thick and it's got Multiple video inputs like six multiple inputs two outputs hdmi Plus six usbc connector. Not only can you bring your Roadcaster pro two or your roadcaster duo Into those usb ports and then you have more XLR inputs and whatever and still use the sound from that. It's a roadcaster duo inside this box already video and audio mixer Yeah, and it's better than any video mixer and audio mixer out there because most people use the atem Video switch. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, but here you notice that their audio is not very high quality and here Yeah, yeah, and afterthought and road is more Audience centric right they started in an audio. Yes. So now they have This complete Roadcaster audio Pro device running Inside this on top of the video switching Yeah, and this thing is a computer. It's not a switcher like the atem's are switchers They're dumb circuits, right? But you can do a lot of crazy things with it But these devices by road they have a linux processor They can be programmed to do what what they don't do today in the future They will do even more things as they update the firmware. Yeah. Yeah I'm looking forward to getting one next to your or something I would say yeah would replace our existing setup especially on the road, right? Would give us a full mobile It would replace yeah the camera part it would add the camera part that we don't have now Which we do use cameras and we are more video people anyway We just have mostly been practicing audio for a while. Yeah, well Gotta get a word headed to sit it to audio Well, I found that audio carries the social conversation right really that's what it comes down And it does take time to develop confidence to speak live. Yes in a recorded session It's so true. Yeah, the first time I was talking to you Years back. I didn't know I just didn't I couldn't even talk on the show because I was stuttering because I could I was just so afraid of talking You're getting a handle on all those issues I had that same issue for years. It takes a long time before you comfortable Just being yourself in a live recording. Yeah, just relaxing But what about me? Yeah, yeah, everyone has got the radiums, you know, and become aware of them. It's great. Yeah Okay, so that's the road Faster system. Yeah, interesting because they're Australians and you think that television being invented in America that we take it to the next step But no the Ossie's with this all-in-one idea and doing more for less is really what it's all about with this technology More and more stuff in one box The next level for this is to hook it up with a good DJ setup so that you could do live party mix and Record it with video and audio simultaneously Anybody who wants to can now Call us at A3 1265 5050 and join the show [Music] There is a new class of genetic therapeutics or mental disorders that seem to be hitting us now Growing a cognitive disperiment mostly dealing with anxiety And our motivation or get up and go or it got up and went. What are we gonna do about it? Is there a new drug that can help us with this and apparently there's not just a new drug But there's a new class of pharmaceuticals that are very helpful for any type of cognitive impairment these days It's called the cognagenics solution Cognagenogenation yeah, Bobby you're live again by the way, okay So I guess it's based on sri's s nri's Part of it. It's a result of RNA editing And that would give anybody anxiety it looks like they're basing it on these hallucinogenic compounds like psychedelics like psilocybin That's what they're getting their information from or basing it these on Interesting It's as many drugs that are currently used to treat anxiety and depression were approved in the late 80s That includes drugs like zoloft and similar approaches based on norepinephrine as the si and ri's Yes, vaulta that those drugs have proven to be useful treatments for some but Besides continuing concerns of a wide range of serious side effects. Yeah, like suicide Like memory Dementia side effects right So in search of a more effective treatment to manage chronic anxiety depression and cognitive decline including mci There's been a resurgence of interest in the use of sera It's a hallucinogenic compounds. That's yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, psilocybin Wow It's all based on those recent studies with hallucinogens For therapeutic use like people that have PTSD from Going to the rock war and coming back and things like that and they're trying all these hallucinogens and they seem to be much more effective than the traditional approach Drugs that they were using before so I think it's Sasha Shuglin. We're alive today. You'd be all over this Yeah, he'd be excited This is literally like the renaissance of psychedelics in the hours If it's going to be used for treating all kinds of mental disorders Yeah, what does that tell us with the hippies right all along? Yeah Broadcast here. Well, no, no, that's why you guys are here, you know, yeah And so what do you think about this mrs. Future? I have to say that my natural Curiosity goes much more in the direction of what is revealed through meditation Dreaming and non-chemically enhanced practices for studying consciousness the kind of enhancement that you can do through Focusing your attention or through Witnessing your own liminal consciousness. That is really what has my natural curiosity and What we're doing with technology and chemistry is secondary because My belief about our body and the chemical nature of our existence is that that is a simulation And it is serving Higher consciousness and i'm a little bit more direct to source. I I'm much more interested in the consciousness itself than the chemical physics matrix of Conducting that consciousness So I leave that to you Chemical people can tell me what's important to know about that stuff the lead contributor to this is dean raton up there and no Exciences there you go. He's a real peer on the frontier. Yeah, in fact, dean raton is So interesting because even though he is a hardcore scientist He is also a Secret mystic for instance He sent us when we let him know that we were heading to jekyll's obakia a few years ago And he told us about the alchemist's museum in jekyll's obakia, which was a medieval science research lab that was administering to the king and the scientists were considered mystics That had to be imprisoned in their lab so that their secret knowledge didn't get out and so that it was Controlled by the king talk about censorship of the facts in that era. It was literally about Combining the scientists to their lab but when you go to this alchemist museum in prog you see the origins of a lot of the kind of scientific knowledge that we have today at the beginning of chemistry the beginning of working with glass and boiling things to look at the properties and This was the era where they would DICEK cadavers to try and understand how the body worked and stuff like that There were all kinds of inscriptions on the walls in some of this and that Were very much like a cult like you'd see in astrology so it was all mixed together back then Right at the beginning of science was a mystical pursuit. It had to be teased out Well, I'm getting getting some results here. The AI has summarized at the scientific research They're creating the faux talk show hosts as we speak larry and mary larry and What they think about to this psychedelic research. Yeah anxiety and mice and rats see how cool they are Okay. Well, we see the little weight bars But it does say the the material of this and they really look that the AI is really say excited about the idea of RNA editing Oh, hey, we have a caller while we're waiting for larry and mary. Let's see what our caller has to say Okay Hello, erin thomas from seleena's. How are you seleena's interesting? I'm way out in royal faco outside of the seleena's valley Okay, the other part lost Well, some part of your connection grid is coming through seleena's according to him. Yeah my records Well, thanks to elon. I must say i'm talking through my elon line. Are you gonna start link? All right, yeah, and I don't have a great position. So you might fade in and out, but okay, so an interesting thing on the drugs and the psych drug It's so complicated because a lot of this stuff is cultural, you know, I mean they spread There's somebody wrote a whole book where there was this cluster of pseudosides in caloralta the teenagers You know, so there's that aspect where you're getting depressed Online and stuff and you know that An interesting thing coming from a strange source this guy out of stanford Who's one of the only guys that doesn't believe in free will have you heard about the sapulsky? But any is a determinist Oh and Corobiologists, but anyway, he had a little bit on this new condition. It's an acronym in an acronym It's post SSRI sexual dysfunction who knows with any of these things where you know They always it's all kind of like we're trying to do costs and benefits That's almost like with everything life, right? The SSRI's for instance for one of the main things are depression. They're not looking great over time And now they're causing things that they're trying to prevent Sexual dysfunction and also what are they called antonia or whatever or you just kind of don't care and all that so yeah, it's a wild world Wow Aaron are you someone who has I mean you sound like you read a lot and like you're very up on this kind of research from a scholarly place and Do you have a bias on how you feel the drugs have affected what's going on today in the world? I don't know. I mean my thing is like one of my main I told you before kind of buy it at TED talking would be about how we jump to conclusions. We can't make constantly so My thing is not to jump to conclusions. Mm-hmm. Sure. You know, I mean Duncan claud just yet. Yeah, and so what kind of questions do you think we should be asking? Well, the AI suggests is What are the potential benefits and challenges for using this approach? What is the current state of options? How are they best being used? What are the limitations? How does the this RNA editing address the limitation of current treatments questions like that? Yeah, it's Usually way more complicated in my estimation, you know again I'm used language like that because I'm starting to figure out like that's the only way to show people that we're making guesses way more than we think and think But it's almost everything is overly complicated and yet most people don't see that and they think they have the answers before we do Yeah, we jump to conclusions very quickly. Yeah, I Think simplicity is way more informative than having a long list of complicated facts You know the more general Approach kind of both things at the same time in a way like I mean things for instance I'm kind of by saying things are overly generally over simplified. I'm kind of simplifying it, right? Yeah, so it's kind of First, you know, it's the nature of language itself. You know where it's a shorthand for much longer experiences, right? Yeah, I'm pretty excited because another thing is like it's always been about like what are the best ideas? That kind of human thing we've been doing for thousands, right? And right now is the beginning of when we're finally everybody's being able to see everything. It's relatively new You know, so I think it's like the beginning of like what we've been trying to do all along We were separated by technology. I mean first It's only new that we've been able to see people out of a however many mile range known the big picture Yeah, yeah, so So in general you're feeling optimistic like you see that things are new and we're learning as opposed to that We're somehow undoing the best of the past and going on a download spiral Yeah, because you also have to consider negativity bias is like one of our main motives of operation So to be optimistic isn't necessarily the only thing going on Correcting that Yeah, yeah Have all many multiple belief systems all simultaneously operating to create our society. It's kind of an interesting thing Yeah, I think it keeps us more open And as you said less likely to jump to conclusions all the time because conclusions are contextually dependent and you're entertaining multiple Context for understanding things it pays to be open Thanks for calling. Yeah, appreciate it. We're we kind of need to Okay. Well, appreciate your attention. Yeah in your comments. 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I had the notebook AI come up with a little dialogue about psychedelic anxiety RNA editing. We'll see how it sounds I haven't heard this yet myself check this out. You know, it's amazing how much progress We've made in some areas of health and medicine, but when it comes to Anxiety and like age related cognitive decline, right? It feels like we're kind of stuck with the same old solutions, you know, yeah And you're someone who's always been looking for what's next what could change the game. Yeah, well get this Your latest deep dive into neuroscience Might have uncovered something truly groundbreaking Yeah, the potential of RNA editing as a treatment and what's so fascinating is we're not just talking about like incremental improvements here Right the research you've been looking at yeah Suggest this could be a whole different approach to tackling these conditions. Okay, so before we get ahead of ourselves. Sure Let's make sure everyone listening is on the same page. We're talking about things like mild cognitive impairment or mci Right. What does that actually look like? So mci is like and how common are we talking? Yeah, it's kind of like that in between stage, right? Okay Not quite dementia, but definitely more than just your typical age related memory lapses It's like forgetting where you put your keys, right? I'm going to go forward a little bit. It affects a surprisingly large portion of the population. I'm going to see before we met you Yeah, this was just generated in some time and to be involved in both anxiety and mci Yeah, our psychedelics somehow acting on those same targets. It turns out they are really yeah So substances like psilocybin, which is the act of compound and magic mushrooms Okay can actually act on those serotonin receptors we discussed okay Specifically the five ht2 AR receptors right and when they do yeah, it seems to have an effect on both mood regulation and cognitive processes so they're kind of like agonists, right? Yeah, they're mimicking the effects of serotonin on those receptors exactly in a much more intense way That's a good way to think about it. Yeah, but of course there's a reason why psychedelics haven't become like mainstream Treatment options just yet, right? I think we all kind of know what that is and fascinating as the research might be yeah I can't imagine too many people lining up for a treatment that could induce hallucinations Especially if we're talking about conditions like anxiety or mci where that could be really destabilizing Well, you know, I guess they have to put a disclaimer on that But what the choice is would you wouldn't mind having a hallucination for curing an anxiety Tax would that be worth having an hallucination over? Well, you know, I do think that these programmed commentators have been given a certain bias and of course they Can't help but sound better than they are because of that But all I want to see is if the AI left it on a cautionary note or whether or not they changed their tone Let's go a little bit past the warning part because that might just have to be put into the algorithm that they have to say Well, you know, keep in mind. This is experimental Right not proven and only done in rats now. Hey, here we go I'm all yours. So tell me what is RNA editing? Okay, and how could it possible? Oh, that's where they're fine. They're they've spent most of the time five minutes to 11 minutes in their answer To talking about RNA editing so they talked to like one minute So that's very informative then Yeah, that's that's really the frontier. Let me see if the rest of this is about the RNA editing Let's see an eight-minute works. Is it right? We were talking about how this new approach Seems to tick all the boxes. Yeah for like an ideal treatment. It really does What were those again? Just remind everybody listening. Okay, so we're looking at precise targeting of those very specific receptors in the brain Non-invasive delivery nasal spray through a nasal spray exactly yeah, potentially long-lasting effects Yeah, imagine a single treatment lasting for months months. Yeah, wow And of course minimal side effects based on those animals studies, you know when you lay it all out like that It's hard not to get excited. I know like Significant anxiety reduction and memory improvement. Yeah with a single treatment that lasts for months Amazing that could be absolutely life-changing for so many people it really could it could be revolutionary But as scientists, you know, we're also trained to be cautious. Of course, of course We gotta get back to that again, okay Well You can tell these guys have programmed a litany of phrases to use But I like to talk to them. They like to say deep dive They like to do fake enthusiasm They are completely unaware of the of the contradiction between their cautionary warnings versus how excited they are for the potential outcome It doesn't really sound like a person And they give you also a it sounds almost like a college quiz at the end here Yeah, they say what are the current state of treatment options For anxiety and what are the limitations of existing therapies? How does the new RNA editing approach address the limitations of current treatment? And what are the potential benefits and challenges of using RNA editing to treat anxiety and nothing about psychedelics and the suggested questions from from google here Interesting Yeah, well, everybody knows I think that the serotonin's are Chemistaries that are connected with dreams and sleep and your brain's ability to relax Okay, well, let's move on to the brain gut connection. Oh, that's always a fascinating area. Yeah, yeah I saw a very interesting piece in SciPost called scientist uncover brain gut connection That impairs immune defenses during psychological stress It was research reported in the journal cell and they found a link between our mental state and the immune system particularly between our brain and our gut and they focused on a little known structure and our digestive system that's known as Bruner's glands B-R-U-N-N-E-R Bruner's glands Okay And that's located there inside and the duodenum. It's the first section of the small intestine Okay, now these glands appear to play a pivotal role in how Stress affects gut bacteria and the immune defense system This relationship between brain and gut health is a growing area of interest and Psychological stress as we know I've talked to dr. Sideroff very often and on how stress can harm Our ability to fight infections if you're under constant mental stress, you're not going to do so well in fending off diseases We know that gut bacteria somehow plays a role in keeping our immune system happy and healthy But what's been less clear is that mechanism where stress and mental states Change our gut health and tear and effect our immune system So the Bruner's glands now seem to be a focal point because they produce A mucus that protects the gut lining Oh, so makes it less permeable to toxins. Yeah, exactly Yeah As previous studies shown that Stress can reduce the population of good bacteria and what good do they burn beneficial like lactobec solace is considered good And when we don't have the good bacteria, I guess the bad bacteria Leaves more room for them Hence we're more vulnerable to infections So the researchers in this piece were hypothesizing that Bruner's glands might serve as a Connection point between the brain and the gut that's influenced by stress And uh, there are other higher level brain function Information in this case Psychological states Well, how do we affect them? Is it diet related? I mean, I know it's talking about stress Yeah, yeah, they the nine pillars of stress nine pillars that take us out about sit-off's point of view Would include the environment that you're in Your psychological state is very much affected by your environment and if you're in a situation that's costing causing you stress Or people are yelling at you all the time or you don't feel comfortable where you are or you're unhappy for the Smell or the look of your environment things like that Or if you're fearful or if you're being abused in any way all of these things I'm sure can diminish your health make yourself smaller Instead of a larger when you're smaller. It seems like that controls your defense mechanisms and makes you more amenable to pathogens That's true. What i've learned is 80% of the serotonin that's produced in your body Actually comes from the gut And it signals through the vagus nerve to the brain And so I think a lot of processed foods recently has changed the microbiome in most people Where they're not processing and producing enough serotonin so then they start relying on pharmaceutical drugs that are s s r i's Which are serotonin reuptake inhibitors? That's what s s r i means And what they do is they just recycle what little serotonin you have in the brain Instead of utilizing the serotonin that's normally produced in the gut But the problem is after a while when you're on these s s r i's You're not producing anymore serotonin. You're not feeling happy anymore And you rely more and more on the drug on a larger quantity or dosage every month every year Goes up and then it gets to the point where when they have to like mean off of these s s s r i's That's where you see a large number of suicides are happening at that point I think we have to repopulate the microbiome in people's guts Yeah, but eating the right stuff you're saying ultra processed food, especially is going to throw off our microbiome Probably maybe in american some of the less healthy country than it could be Right, you could eat things that produce tryptophan So if you eat foods that have our high and tryptophan like turkey or there's all kinds of things that are high and tryptophan But tryptophan is the molecule that it breaks Down into serotonin one step after that So you have to start with tryptophan and then you go and it produces serotonin in the gut These microbes are very good at that. That's what they very they're very good at producing serotonin that way Well, I say that to explore the brains role in all this the researchers manipulated a part of the brain called the central nucleus of the amygdala That's heavily involved in processing emotions the amygdala particularly stress and fear That's the old part of the brain. I believe it's like used to call it brainstem theater Right I take my infrared lamp every morning. Yeah, that's where I put it in the base of the skull Which is at the top of the vertebrae at the atlas of your brain Right on your amygdala. Yeah, I do it on the amygdala And it makes me feel better. It really does It just skits all the mitochondria active and they start producing Energy like they're supposed to and everything functions correctly and I just like wake up stimulating Yeah, when the amygdala is feeling good, you're feeling good Yeah, that's true. It's it mediates more than just fear and stress It likes to feel good too on the other side as an organ. It's probably aware of what an ideal states are Right. Well, these researchers mapped out a pathway that seemed to connect the amygdala to the brooders glands Oh in the cut. Yeah. Yeah, so somehow they were connected via the vagus nerve. Yeah. Yeah And yes, they were studying this they used pretty advanced methods and mapping out This connection using gene targeting viral injections and brain imaging And by either stimulating or inhibiting these circuits they could look at how it affected activity in the brooders glands and the guts bacterial composition in turn fascinating they also looked at analyzing the thickness of the gut lining and bacterial cultures from the intestines and the vulnerability to bacterial infections before and after stress showing how that when the central amygdala was suppressed that the brooders glands became inactive and reduces their mucus production and that in turn allowed harmful bacteria to proliferate and Conversely when the central living delo was activated it led to an increase in vagus nerve activity which in terms stimulated the glands to produce more mucus promoting the growth of beneficial bacteria and Less bad ones. So I guess if you're stimulating it in other ways too, it might create a desired effect also like you were doing Yeah, again, it's sort of by modulation where light can affect Neurons in the brain and most of the time it's been beneficial, but you have to be careful that you don't overdo these things Yeah, there's diminishing marginal returns after a certain point Getting to know that point Yeah, yeah That brings us to like prebiotics where you should eat foods that these microbiome Thrive on and the good ones thrive on as opposed to the bad ones that they tend to like sugar a lot the bad ones Also sugar has a negative effect on serotonin in the brain too initially you get that sugar rush But afterwards you have that sugar crash So there's this bipolar Bipolar result. Yeah, it's this up and down syndrome that you get from sugars And especially what's interesting is these synthetic sugars Actually turn out to be neurotoxins after a while they imitate the sweetness of sugar So that's the sugar substitutes and the yeah Suckro loz yes all the ones that you see when you go to the coffee shop And they have these synthetic sugars that they're pink or blue color Packages and yeah all of those eventually are neurotoxins Eventually, okay, so yeah, but moderation don't well you should not take them at all. I see it Well, what do you do for sweetening your coffee? Good. All honey is great Honey's better than sweet Yeah, absolutely as far as synthetic sweeteners. Yes, there's no comparison. You can do honey What about just using half and half? Yeah, black toast is a sugar. So yes milk and creams are slightly sweet And so you can use that and you know what I do what's that I took a TMG which is tri-methylglyce and I take a little quarter teaspoon of that I put it in my green tea matcha And it has a slight sweetness to it It has the smell of fish which is unusual But once you put it in the drink, you don't smell it at all But it does it definitely changes the matcha that I drink in the morning because it helps in methylation And so it improves my mood tremendously. It's called TMG tri-methylglyce Time-ethylglyce Yeah, so glycine the glycine part is the sugar part and tri-methyl are actually methylating In your process of your ATP And so you need those methyl groups to continue the Krebs cycle there I find that's a very it's a slight sweetener And it's very beneficial to the brain at the same time for people that have the mthf r mutation in their gene Yeah, what is the healthiest sweetener we can use in our coffee? When it comes to choosing a healthy sweetener for your coffee There are several great options that can add sweetness without the negative health impacts of refined sugar Here are some of the healthiest choices Stevia this natural sweetener is derived from the leaves of the stevia class. That's pretty classic It has zero calories and is much sweeter than sugar. So you only need a small amount Monk fruit another natural sweetener monk fruit extract is calorie-free and doesn't raise blood sugar levels Yeah, I like that. That's a good one. It's a great option for those looking to reduce their sugar intake than yours Honey while it does contain calories. Honey is a natural sweetener with antioxidant and antibacterial properties It's a healthier alternative to refined sugar, especially if you use raw honey. Yeah, okay. I agree with that Maple syrup pure maple syrup is another natural option that contains minerals like manganese and zinc It has a lower glycemic index than sugar making it a better choice for maintaining stable blood sugar levels on the final one coconut sugar this sweetener is derived from the sap of coconut palm trees It contains small amounts of nutrients like iron zinc calcium and potassium and has a lower glycemic index than regular sugar That's what they suggest Yeah, I've tried all those and they all have a different taste. I find the stevia It has a distinctive taste to it. So I haven't acquired that taste for stevia Yeah, I find it's very bitter leaves a very bitter aftertaste. I don't like it. The bitter aftertaste What about xylocane? You want xylitol. Oh, excuse me xylitol Yeah, because xylitol if you go on youtube, there's all these dentists that are recommending xylitol Between meals or just after a meal And actually you can get toothpaste that contains xylitol And I've been using that and I find that after a while maybe a couple weeks of using it You will realize that there's this the film that created when you eat some sugars They instantly form on your teeth right after you eat some sweets and desserts Well after you've been doing this xylitol regimen, they don't appear And it's been shown that you can eradicate Streptococcus mutons which causes caries and gum disease and tooth decay You can eradicate that from your body if you continue this regimen with xylitol Well, you know, I loved eating xylitol. I tasted great hair that there was just one issue that I had with it slight problem with xylitol Oh Please That was the only problem with xylitol Oh, really you know to say oh my god, I guess you're talking about swishing it around with your teeth and you said about swallowing it Yeah eating it with anything. Well, I was good for about half an hour. I just couldn't keep it in Really? I was okay. So the gaseous buildup was just unbelievable. It must be an interaction with the um, microbiome It's true. So I've talked to my dentist about this and she says you shouldn't actually ingest it You can brush your teeth with it. You can chew gum I have xylitol gum that I chew right after a meal But if you ingest larger mouths, it does affect the microbiome. It does kill off some of the beneficial Microbot not all of it. Not as bad as sucralose or any of the other synthetics It's not as bad as that, but it does affect your microbiome So that's why you shouldn't take spoonfuls of it and ingest it Use it lightly use it with respect or just rinse it around your mouth And also there's something called x clear for your nose So I found that if you use xylitol Which is the component in x clear or clear is how they pronounce it You spray it up your nose It gets rid of the streptococcus mutants in your nose And all of a sudden you can smell things that you didn't smell before for me That's what happened Just a very small amount just like one shot a day in the nose and it'll clear up nose congestion or even allergies Some people it helps for hay fever and those kind of allergies. Wow this x clear It's xylitol based but what's better for your nose is lactobacilia Sekai It's actually derived. It's the bacterium that's found in kimchi when you take cabbages Kimchi, yeah, that's one of your favorites Yeah, kimchi is kind of a regular Fermented food that they eat in korea in japan And it's very common and a lot of people swear by it, you know It's very beneficial, but you can actually buy online lactobacilia Sekai and it will actually reduce the inflammation in your nose and your sinuses You can smell better and you can think better feel better Yeah overall the best way to do it. Yeah, well right now I'm basically keeping it to a minimum and using half and half Half and half and half of the coffee. It's honey. I love honey, but yeah Well, make sure the half and half is organic and it's coming from a to cows He does as opposed to the a1 cows Yeah, well most of the united states has a one cows They're called holstein cows Holstein the spots Because 500 years ago in holstein, germany There was this magic cow that produced twice as much milk as all the other cows And so they started breeding this cow But this is the only animal on the planet that produces casing a1 And it's an incomplete protein and it's a genetic mutation that accidentally happened in this cow And then the dairy industry picked up on they say I want that cow that produces twice as much milk as all the regular cows, right? Right, and so That's why you have this whole generation of people that are allergic to lactose when they get older Is because they've been brought up on this casein a1 type cow milk from holstein cows We able to switch over and it's never too late, I guess Anyway, we're in our final minute of the show here. Yeah, that's good Yeah, we're really calling it tight here and we're gonna take off I'm getting all these weird notices about wildfire just one exit up off the freeway from where I am Felicity and ballistic missiles by the hundred were fired from Iran on Israel Exciting times ahead in our final minute of the never at all moment. No, no and lactobexcelis Yeah, 46 seconds. Thanks. We had a couple of interviews where we're gonna play this week But we're gonna save them for the next week or we're gonna put them on our website so that you can listen to them in their entirety both fascinating interviews one with michael Mercury and amazing astrologer astrologer. Yeah, Michael's fascinating astrologer. Yeah. Yeah And the other county and Andrew evolutionary agents on the run across the country with a good report We're gonna put teaching us all about the trust frequency and Other aspects of their search for the future on our website drfutur show calm You'll find it all so thanks for listening folks. Thank you, Bobby for being part of the show have a great future now everybody Yeah, see I'll go out and enjoy the sun. Bye. Yeah. Bye. Bye