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 We'll tell you a little bit about our new years in a minute, but first we bring in Bobby Bobby Wilder in
 San Francisco
 Bobby our science correspondent. Are you there?
 Bobby say something no what's happening man? You were here a minute ago. I know now you know it
 Okay, well, we see you
 We definitely see you hi well you think about that for a minute while I talk about some of the hot stories for today
 Okay, we would often do two things this time of year. We'd go to Mac world's Mac world's those of us that are into Mac computers
 Would love that venue?
 Because it was where all the latest greatest stuff about Max or is being done. It's usually in San Francisco
 Now that's no longer here now. We are completely
 devoid of anything San Francisco at that time, but we do have a big big big festival going on in Las Vegas
 Nevada called the consumer electronic show
 That's been going on for years and years and years and I'm sure you'll all hear about it on the news tonight
 We're gonna have some of our favorite products that we're gonna talk about that today to its consumer electronics
 New products new ideas that are coming out things that will hopefully be good for solving our problems and making this a
 better world
 Okay one good hope. Oh
 Springs eternal for sure. It's way of Bobby up now. I don't know Bobby. Yeah, you're you're so yes, you know
 These max you got to go into every app and make sure it's pointing to the right output device
 So it was not pointed at the right place or somehow it switched like we heard you and then we didn't hear you
 We'd hear you now. So Bobby welcome to the show. Oh, thank you. Yeah, happy new year
 Happy new year. Wow. How's your new year? It was great. I got to see this professor of neuroscience at Berkeley
 He has his new laboratory in University of Florida. It's called the riddle laboratory named after him
 Oh, so he is a riddle. He's doing yes, Dr. Riddle. Justin Riddle is his name professor
 He has married his wife who was also doing his postdoc at the same
 University of North Carolina. I hope he married his wife. Yeah, yeah, and he yeah
 Good as she into this - she's a postdoc. So she's a bit of an academic as well
 Yes, both in neuroscience and they got a job together at University of Florida
 the first Justin got the job and then they noticed that she was married to him and she was just as qualified as he was and
 So they gave her a position right there at the University of Florida. So they're both together
 The same laboratory. That's cool. Cool. Look at the same pay. Yes, they do. They're kind of equal. It's very interesting
 Yeah, and she's she's brilliant very smart. Her name's Molly. I assume you spent some time hanging out with them
 Yes, I did and talked a lot about everything a lot about AI too because they're also
 interested in how AI is adapted after neuroscience and there's a professor
 his name is dr. Carl Friston in England and
 he has been
 pioneering a new way of doing active inferencing and
 changing not only biology but also AI because it's a new way of getting information about the world and
 using very little energy to adapt to the world and seeing the world are you talking about the local AI?
 Where you have it on your phone rather than having to use these large language models? Yes, it is because
 The problem is with a eyes you need these giant computers for training for instance
 That's what Elon Musk has got with his Colossus. So he's using the massive this computer right across
 a massive computer but the massive amount of data is actually coming from the cameras on the cars and so
 in essence tesla is going to be
 Not a car company. It's going to be an AI company because it's using the video from all these
 Millions of cameras that are on the cars right and make sure they don't have accidents and
 never get properly and so you know, there's this I don't know if you have any you do have an article on
 Waymo and yes, you know, and how that's evolving. Yeah, the waymo
 Opening up a new city's you know, they they use
 Microwaves they use radar they use
 Lidar Lidar right right and teslas don't they used to use cameras. That's right
 So there's a completely different method of actually
 To avoid
 Accidents right right and they're all collecting their data. No doubt
 I would imagine the waymo being google has their network as well. Yeah, they do and
 I think in the long run what's going to happen is I think visually is going to
 The way that tesla is going. I think this visual information is going to supersede and so you agree with with the their approach that
 You don't need to light our
 Radar and sonar to be able to navigate you can just do fine with normal video cameras
 Yes, the lidar people have been doing this for like 10 years and yeah, they run Waymo and things
 Right, right tesla has only been doing this for like two years
 You know the words they've gotten they're training with their visual
 Network and they are going to leapfrog. I mean they're they're going to far surpass
 Anything's when they announce that they're going to do their robo taxis
 That they know that just like tesla tax which come out towards the end of this year
 Right. The problem is the cost it cost a hundred thousand dollars to set up one of these Waymo cars
 So they take an existing car and then they put all those gadgets on top and
 Spinning radar and the lidar going around. Yeah, yeah, and I've been interested they put them in jaguars
 So a lot of people like that
 Yeah, a lot of the a lot of their cars are high-end cars
 And people tended to gravitate in that direction
 However, they are trying to get the cost down and I think when they go mainstream, it's that you're not going to have that option as much
 Yeah, yeah
 So I don't know how many cars they have of Waymo's in each city, but it's not that many
 But there's so many more tesla's out there and all they have to do is after they trained
 The machines with colossus and do all the training
 They can just drop these models right into your tesla and all of a sudden your tesla could be
 Autopilot it could be a robo taxi too if you wanted it to it would learn everything that the colossus has learned
 And it would be downloaded as just a model right into your tesla and so you can have auto driving
 So probably next year people could opt for auto driving auto driving on their cars and well it also
 Could become more mainstream too instead of being a high-end addition to to your tesla now
 Yes, and you don't have to add another hundred thousand dollars worth of equipment on your car
 Right, it'll be normal. It'll be ubiquitous
 But how long I guess that's always the question how long before
 ubiquity
 appears in this arena yeah, I've been listening to a lot of podcasts about the
 diversity of the agents and the applications and I'm thinking that as these various automated
 ais enter the scene it's going to be analogous to different workers being hired because
 every AI
 relies upon a set of models in order to make its choices and perform and everything
 and every
 Autonomous car is going to have to be optimized for its area where it's doing the driving
 it's going to be having to be optimized for
 different times of day and
 All of the various models are being updated constantly and and sometimes a particular
 Problem is solved in one model and then that model isn't utilized in the next iteration
 and so it's going to be a very interesting
 evolution as these
 Ais become intelligent fascinating evolution indeed it would be a large
 evolution because
 You look at the basic stats in 2023 waymo picked up 20,000 passengers
 in 2024 waymo picked up close to 500,000 passengers
 Wow in california alone
 And are these all autonomous cars or these are all autonomous? Yeah, autonomous
 Passengers, there's no driver. It's a headless driver. Right? Okay?
 Fascinating. Yeah, so 500,000 rides and that's that many people that felt like it was a safe option
 Yeah, and a lot of people prefer the autonomous car
 Because you can go in you can set the music for what you want make your phone calls
 You have total privacy. You just have the car driving you there
 Total privacy. Yeah
 Everything in the tab could be recorded of course, but it is your environment you're in charge
 You don't have to talk small talk to anybody. There's nobody telling you not to smoke
 No, unless you want to talk small talk and then there are chat bots that will help you with that
 Do they let you smoke in those waymo? No
 You're a joke. I was a joke. Yeah, it was a smoke joke
 Yeah, they said that tourists in san francisco were ordering driverless taxis for their novelty
 And because of as I mentioned the high-end jaguars. Yeah
 You know what? Stiling ride. Uh-huh. Right? It's kind of funny at night about three blocks down the hill
 Two waymos just sit there and you can see on the waymos they had these little spinning gyros
 Car beanies tell their robot cars. Yeah, but they park right in front of couple houses there and every night
 They park I would think that they would go to a garage at the end of the day
 No, they park on this one block down the street. Oh, maybe they're saying yeah
 Maybe you have a waymo developer living in your neighborhood
 Maybe there's a wireless charger there. She could take a look
 You know, it's they're right on the street and all their lights are off
 Except there's a little blinking red light on the back end
 You can tell that the little radar thing is spinning and spinning
 There's no lights on and it just goes to sleep there looks like yeah, maybe in the middle of the night
 They dug up the road. They put in a wireless charger put the tarmac back on you know the asphalt
 And they're testing it out to see it kind of makes sense if in the future you would have parking spots
 You pay the meter and you'd also get a charge
 Yeah
 Probably not. I thought they came out of one big garage or something, but no if they're distributing
 Sitting there on the street right nearby. Yeah, there's no extension cords going to them or anything
 Now they just sit there waiting. That's funny bobbing and you're up at the hills. You're not exactly
 Well, I wonder what the ownership model is for those is it similar to uber and lift where individuals own the car
 Is there a depot a central depot who owns a whole bunch of cars?
 Well, they're selling them to uber and lift
 And uber and lifter providing the facilities for charging and maintenance
 So that's a fleet then their fleet the other fleet cars exactly uber announced that more than five
 US robo taxi partnerships in the last five months
 In Los Angeles dallas
 Austin, Atlanta
 It's spreading but it it takes an infrastructure and they have to set up that infrastructure in every town
 You know the the maintenance the charging knowing the city
 Software the the people the locations that they need for doing all these things they have to book the red properties
 for that
 And the way they're working it out is that uber and lift will will get a cut of the driverless taxi bookings
 And the robo taxi companies get access to the ride sharing giants tens of millions of customers not having an advertiser
 Build the technology needed to the amazon of connected driving
 Yeah, I mean originally connect the riders and the car
 Yeah originally I mean uber and lift wanted to develop them themselves
 But they realized this was not their mind business. There's a lot of work to be able to build an autonomous car
 Mm-hmm maintain a fleet of it much easier to just start a ride sharing billing system
 Call us and we'll send you a car
 Yeah, we'll dispatch
 But will human driven cabs go away anytime soon?
 I don't think so it's going to be a combination of both for a while
 It might take a decade before they start making a huge dent in this
 Yeah, well if you think about the autonomous cars and then you think about the big new years eve tesla disasters
 And put those in the same
 Thought form. Oh, there's a long way to go
 You know, it reminds me you know that the tesla that blew up at the trump tower in las vegas
 Yeah, as we all know it was from the same company that rented the forward lightning
 Yeah, you know the name of it started with a tear something right too low too low and yeah
 What was interesting from the reports that I heard about that was that it's not a company that owns these cars that this is a
 Service where like if you own a tesla truck you can give it to this service and they'll rent it out for you
 You're trying to make money on your tesla truck and some terrorist rents your truck and blows it up
 What
 Yes, it was destroyed by some maniac who blew some bombs up in it. Uh, yeah, I was joined if we're at caught that little
 Concerned. Yes is really
 So what do you do they get compensated or they must have insurance for that sort of thing?
 Yeah, well, I've never done it. I've never put any of our vehicles on a ride share list for people to
 borrow and pay
 Sounds a little risky. Yeah. Oh, by the way, they're not allowed to go to the airports
 The airports are saved for the human drivers
 Yeah, well, that's the unions the drivers unions made sure
 I want the airports. That's right. That's the bread and butter of the
 Non-autonomous driver
 But how long will it stay that way what's going to happen when the tesla fleets come out the end of the year?
 You know, it's a big question mark in the future. There's so many ways that
 Our current system is going to be revised
 I think they're just going to just download a module to your tesla
 And then you can decide if you want to have your car turn into a robo taxi automatically
 It would be nice if your car could make you some money much like people are doing with renting out their spare rooms
 Or being a lift driver or being a driver, right? You have the robot do the driving
 And you get paid while you're sleeping
 Well, you're sleeping while you're having cars
 I think the estimates over the years have been that most cars spend about
 90 percent of their time parked and are only actually in use about 10 percent of the time
 Yeah, that's why they say you only need 10 percent of the cars that are on the road when it's all taxis
 Yeah, and if each person who owns an autonomous car has primary access to it whenever they want it
 Then they can rent it out the rest of the time
 It's sort of like having an employee a robot employee who has a part-time job
 And you get the proceeds from their part-time job. Yeah, makes sense. Yeah, actually people would say yes to that
 You would, right?
 Probably
 Yeah, as long as I could plan my own driving so that nobody could tell me no
 It does never interfere with that. Well, if you have two cars and you have just have one that you've pimped out all the time
 Yeah, but scheduling isn't that hard, right?
 You have an app and you either are on this calendar or you're not if you want it you put yourself on the calendar
 Right, so it kind of makes sense that
 Some of the future fleets would be cars that weren't part of the original fleet
 They're privately owned
 And that would be good that they had the latest software as Bobby was talking about earlier
 Whether they get the downloads
 Well instead of you thinking of a car as something that you're constantly spending money on you're thinking of a car as an investment
 And it's not a car and it's not really a car at that point either
 It's part of this growing organism
 Conveyance with thousands of eyes
 Autonomous conveyance
 Millions of eyes
 That's collecting data everywhere it sees all the time
 And sorting it and organizing it and making it into something useful to us
 I.e. getting from point A to point B
 Everlessly
 Yeah, have you sat in any of these new Teslas where they have the screen and it actually in real time
 It has this black and white description of either a bus or person walking across the street or oh, yeah
 Vdar keeps it entertaining, right? It's amazing. It looks like these drones that
 Can map out things and see where objects are with radar and stuff. Oh, so it creates a representation of the
 Real-time objects as you're driving by. Yeah, I'm gonna put it on people analyzer mode
 Yeah, let's see who's walking down the street remote. Yeah
 Scan them. We can detect dogs
 And it can detect whether it's a semi truck or a different truck and when you you don't even see it
 But somehow it senses these things. Yeah from I don't know from other cars or I don't know how I have noticed
 An AI just looks for a recognizable form and then tells you what it is and puts a representation on your screen
 Well, whatever I've been in a Tesla
 The screen is always showing you the cars on both sides of you and it looks like it does a reasonable
 Representation of what kind of vehicle they are. Yeah. Yeah, sometimes they morph into what they really are when they're far away
 You might detect it's a smaller truck and then when you get close to it
 Then it'll make the image of a semi truck or something bigger or much more precise
 Yeah, let me get some more data. Yeah, well
 I'm thinking of the software that they're deploying at the borders the Palantir software and those AI's can tell you
 Is it a bird? Is it a dog? Is it a mole? Is it a human? Is it a truck plane? Right?
 Superman, you know, they've got an object database of everything that moves and butterfly. Yeah
 Yeah, so let's get a little bit into the CES stuff, shall we? But first let's go for a little commercial break
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 And welcome back to future now show
 with
 Alan's son here and bobby wilder
 in san francisco, maybe in boulder creek in the mountains
 And this time of year we're often at the consumer electronics show in las vegas, navada
 son's hometown i might add
 That's right where i was born lived till i was in high school and we've seen somebody cool gadgets over the years there
 I remember first time I saw a fleet of dancing robots
 That was so fun
 It really made robots even though they looked like they could be soldiers. It made them so cool
 Dancing robots all in unison following the same choreographed routine together was amazing
 Wow, how many robots?
 Well, they were only about one foot high and there was
 six of them i think
 Wow, yeah, that's cool.
 And this was like 2006.
 Yeah, we would be videotaped that.
 So the robots have been coming around for a while
 We've even owned a few over the years. Yeah, we were just counting this morning that we've had we've got three robots
 Just little demos. We had a robo dog when those first became available
 And we have a little robo
 iPhone holder where the iPhone is the face of your telecommunications
 And the robot can be directed to different places and yeah, we have that little guy and of course we had the robot
 Known as a zumba and alan fixed it so that he could have his camera driving around on the zumba
 Yeah, what was it a Roomba not a zumba a Roomba
 What's a zooma? It sounds like a dance move. Yeah, your dance robot the Roomba
 Yeah, yeah, that's it
 So Nvidia announced these 250 dollar
 Their blackwell chips. It looks like a developer board. It looks like a raspberries pie. It's about that size
 but it's capable of dropping in everything that's learned and dropping it into this
 So that it could be the brains of any of these robots
 You could attach it to something with wheels or it could be trained
 Remotely and then you just drop in the module and it can do things for you
 You know
 Like anything anything that you see any of these robots
 Super powerful brain for the robots. Yeah, but 250 dollars
 It's wow 200
 I
 Sounds like we can all afford an upgrade is that like
 How many raspberry pies is that?
 It is like
 Hundreds of times more powerful than a raspberry pie. It's incredible. You have this blackwell chip in there
 It's it's like you have a super computer for 250 dollars. That's what it is
 Unbeliev. How do you program it? Is it standard?
 It will take all those models that you can get online from github that are free
 All these models llama three or whatever. Yeah, just to just download it right onto this module
 Or the supercomputer and it will perform anything you want
 Right now it's designed to be sitting on your network. So it's like your NAS server
 You know, it's just sitting on your network and that's your super computer
 But eventually there'll be
 Autonomous and they'll be inside your robots. Yeah. Yeah, it would be the brain of your robot
 Okay, so I get one of those and then I just need a good robot body to go with it
 Yes, something with wheels or something, you know, some of the stuff from CES is they're designing these robots
 So that they have interchangeable parts, right?
 You put your brains in and then you can decide whether it's gonna have a function of
 being a chef or being a package delivery service or
 Being a medical aid device and you just plug in the right parts
 Exactly and so with this you just have the brains and then you just download the latest module and we can learn a new language or
 You can serve you dinner. You can do anything you want
 Afterwards, so it's gonna be crazy. This next year. Oh, yeah, I can't wait to get my robot
 But I gotta get the brain first or the robot first I think the brain first and then just try different modules
 So many people would be programming it to do so many different things like it could watch your stove and
 Tell you how to cook something or if you put it on your Roomba. It could do a lot. Give me smarter
 Give me a drink
 It could take the dog for a walk
 Yes, and it could be your secretary and
 Technos it could plan up trips to travel any place in the world. Yeah. Yeah, that is true
 It could be so many things. It's kind of like your phone can be
 So many things it's not just a phone. That's just an app now
 Yeah, give me an insight about humanoid robots
 Just a couple days ago as a matter of fact where we've been thinking of them as having various
 Personas or personalities
 But the thing is is that their personalities can be swapped as easily as
 Just making a phone call to another person and it's like, you know calling a robot a particular
 Personality is about as silly as
 Thinking your phone is me when you call me
 Even though that box acts like me and talks like me
 People from another century might think that that phone with a face on it is that person who's talking
 But it isn't right so the fluidity of the robot is that it is like the phone in the sense that its identity
 Can be swapped quickly and easily and probably will depending on the task that's being asked for it to do, you know
 Yeah, that's it. They're much more versatile than people. Yeah
 So even giving them a name seems so most simplistic
 They're going to be your best friend
 Friends see we're using analogies. You're right. It's like saying my phone is my best friend though
 You know
 What about the idea that it could be a dozen different people all of which are your best friends?
 Yes, or it could call a famous people or you could call up Einstein and
 Right
 Their personification. Yeah, and it would seem like it's alive and it would be answering in the context that which you
 Understand I've noticed that the notebook lm has that interactive feature that's acting just like that now you can try it out for yourself
 Oh, that's right. Yeah, it does it in real time where you can be
 Instead of them just doing their own thing you can actually be part of the panel and talk with them in real time
 Which is the nadest latest upgrade. Yeah, that's right. I have a set up to be yeah
 We have a straight that we have a larry and mary's piece today
 Well, yeah, interject some questions, but first I want to go over some of the stuff at ces
 like the two second iphone battery swap
 Is that important to you to be able to swap your battery quickly if it is although there's a gadget for you
 It's called it's a snippet. It's a box that looks like a toaster
 You drop your phone in it in its special
 Swippet case and after a few seconds the machine swaps out the dead battery in the case
 With a fresh one that's charged and ready so those Samsung phones the older one 10 years ago
 You could swap out the battery
 Yeah, you can't swap an iphone battery
 I mean unless it's built in
 You can swap your extra charger battery your external
 Right, but this doesn't make too much sense. No, it's the case
 It's the case you can swap and the case has a battery in it
 That makes more sense
 I have an old samsung s4 and it had a battery on the back like an external battery
 Yeah, yes, you could swap that out. Yeah. Yeah, so the swap ability factor is
 People still want a minute is swapping out
 Yeah, well, this is two seconds
 Wow, it's a two second iphone battery swap or at least a battery case swap
 It's not cheap though. It's like 700 bucks for the for the hub and one case. Oh, wow. I know runs more as much as the phone
 Well, I'm quite
 But you know
 If timing is important to you if they could do that with cars and they'd have something
 Yeah, if you could swap out your battery on your car, that would be huge
 But they do have a battery backup for your fridge
 That was
 Interesting they have it on display there
 The idea is that if you earn an area that has a lot of power failures
 And you get sick and tired of smelling spoiled food in your fridge
 Like boiled milk for example
 Fridge goes out
 What are you going to do? How do you stop these sour moments from happening to you?
 Well, there's a company called bio light BIO LITE
 And they have a backup battery for your fridge
 Yeah, specifically for your fridge or really any other appliances that needs constant power
 So they're trying to sell you the idea that instead of getting a whole home battery backup system
 That you can just tie an appliance to a battery that needs
 I think this could help a lot of people because the worst thing about losing power is that your refrigerator goes out
 And then your food gets ruined. That's right. That's what they're aiming for
 So this is pretty smart. Thank you. Three kilowatts of power enough to run a standard fridge for a couple of days
 Says easy to install in 30 minutes. No contractors needed
 Well, here just plug it in. I mean
 Isn't this just a UPS? We've been using these on our computers for a while already, right?
 UPS. Yeah, it is. It's kind of like a glorified UPS
 For your fridge
 Uninterrupted power supply
 For your fridge in our case we've used them for computers for a long time
 Yeah, you use one now though. Are you using one today, Bobby?
 You know, I have UPSs for my NAS server because it really complains if the power goes out. It's a power job
 But then I just got these F38 hundreds from anchor. So I have actually four of them
 But anyway, yes, I can back up my whole house for probably a day or two without energy
 And then I can hook it up to solar panels and I could continue on indefinitely as long as they're sunlight
 Yeah
 Without power because it will automatically switch off the grid and switch on batteries
 Within 30 milliseconds. I don't know. It's a very short time
 You don't even see it. You might see a flicker and a light bulb, but it's very rare. Yeah, it's very quick
 Yeah, I think it's a good idea. I'm glad they're there thinking that way. It's like decentralized power
 In a sense. It's another desensilization of
 uninterrupted power
 And decentralization of power generally with everyone being able to generate more of their own or store more of their own energy in their homes
 Kind of makes sense. I mean biology does that the mitochondria on doing that in all of our cells
 During power
 Yeah, there's the thousands of them in every cell
 The little like double A batteries just charging away keeping us uh bioactive
 There's also this idea where eventually the tesla's if you have it hooked up to the right charger
 Yeah, can you reverse charging and so because those tesla's that
 One tesla is equal to like five
 Powerwalls there's so much energy in the car. Yeah, it could run your house for almost a week
 It's crazy how much energy that's great. I think you go down to the charger station charge up my uh tesla and come home and run the house
 You could run the house for days. That's interesting. Yeah, because I was not getting a tesla because
 There's no way in which my solar system could charge the tesla. It needs too much energy
 I mean it just does the house and that's about it, but five times that now
 But but you give me an idea now for we have a tesla. We could charge the house with that
 You could run the house. Yeah, yeah charging people were running their priests is that way too
 Yeah, so it'd probably be cheaper than running the gas generator. Yeah, good idea. We got power then
 One of the things they've been trying for years with both television and
 Movies are 3d movies like avatar was probably the most famous recent one along those lines
 And the movie and tv industries have just spent huge amounts of money
 Trying to bring 3d home tv, but when they brought out some 3d TVs or we had a few friends that bought them not very many
 I think greg
 Richard
 High-mold ones innovators, you know from like 10 15 years ago
 There were a few models that came out, but they never caught on
 So some reason it just didn't catch on maybe people were getting a little nauseous from it
 It wasn't
 Interesting enough to keep on or 3d movies different really caught on at home so far
 But that doesn't stop the industry from trying
 Samsung has come out with a new
 television that
 Instead of simulating a scene in 3d
 It actually extends a kind of a pixelated souffle
 At you it pushes out like a bubble from the screen when something's got to get 3d
 So it's like a bubble lens depending on the imagery
 Instead of looking into a fishbowl. It's actually popping out of the screen. Yeah, it's actually the screen itself
 Actually pushes out like rubber like it's stretchable
 No, really this display actually extends itself. It's a rubber tv
 Or membrane tv
 Depending on the imagery the imagery being played it's a concept piece that they have on display at ces and samsung booth
 It's too early for us to really know if people are going to like it, but they're trying it out
 It's unique warping the actual screen wasn't on most people's minds when they wanted to see 3d movies
 Fourth of screen. Well novelty is always just that people just want something new
 Yeah 3d television that actually comes out and
 And that opens up to possibilities of touch screens, you know where it literally reaches out and touches you
 Yeah, that's uh, maybe that technology might have some value in the evolution of transmitting the touch sense
 It's a membrane an interactive membrane for your screen
 Well
 They show an lg microwave, but your stove, but it's actually a 27 inch screen
 So I think that's a good place to put instead of an iPad in your kitchen. You're kind of looking at your stove a lot
 So
 I've seen something like this on a refrigerator
 It's a 27 inch screen. So it's a microwave concept for an intelligent cooking machine. Yeah, uh 27 inch display
 Right, right. Yeah from lg
 Some people think that's overkill putting a big screen in your microwave. I mean how often you sit around
 I mean don't you just push the button and do something else for a while
 Maybe if you're cooking you could watch your cooking show right there as you're cooking
 Just look above the range. It does seem like people are used to asking their phone for all kinds of things and
 the older you are the smaller the screen seems in terms of
 Representing what it is you're asking for. So why not have more screens that have more space that you can have showing you something
 More screens with more space screens everywhere. Yeah screens everywhere that your phone can
 Send a picture to kind of makes sense if you're visually oriented, but what about people who are blind?
 You know, what do they do suddenly you've got a visual world? They don't care about screens screens are an impediment
 They would much rather have voice control. Yeah voice control talking about that. We're talking about the screens
 I know we're gonna have max out on the screens. We're gonna do that
 We should max out on voice control too
 So that we don't have to remember what sequence to touch something in sure we can just say turn it off
 Well, well, I would say
 27 seconds the ais did come out with voice control in terms of the Alexa unit and the Siri and all those things
 All right voice control well ahead of any kind of screen control. So audio was around before well flat panels have been
 20 years now. They've been pretty established
 But more and more and they're getting cheaper and the cameras are getting cheaper too. That's part of it
 Matter of fact, we're looking at putting cameras on just about everything these days as some people
 We're asking with the latest some starship launch coming up soon that Friday maybe more cameras on it and
 Yeah, over 30 of them. Yeah, and one of the things they're doing there is they're throwing out a bunch of dummy satellites
 To see how well the starship can deploy starlings
 Right and they people say they can open the pod bay door now. Can they push the starlings out?
 That's the next big test. Yeah, instead of wasting real starlings you that have little mockups
 But people want to put cameras on them now just to watch anyway
 Sure, because cameras are a dime a dozen
 Yeah, well and if it is successful why waste why put trash out if you can put something that's slightly useful
 So a 27 inch screen for your microwave. Yeah, would you buy it price? It depends on the price
 Yeah, it depends on the price. You're right. Yeah, but if they just throw in the screen for a couple of dollars more
 I would buy it. You do it. Yeah, it makes it more useful
 It looks like whirlpool has got some kind of a display that goes on your refrigerator
 It looks like a flat screen on your refrigerator on yeah, that looks pretty interesting
 That's a very versatile just a flat screen that can go anywhere. Well, what's on your fridge anyway that a bunch of magnets
 Yes, it's magnetic screen. Yeah, so just slap on a screen
 This screen is not magnetic though that there's there's a these giant suction cups on the back of the the flat panel
 Yeah, because refrigerators aren't necessarily magnetic anymore. No, so anything that can attach via suction cups
 Right the next sense and you know 27 inch screens are actually they say they can suction cup up to 55 inch tv
 Wow 55 inches and if they have built-in batteries no cables. Oh, this one's battery powered
 Yeah
 Yeah, get batteries no cables, but if you don't you just have one cable
 I spend more time eating and being in the kitchen and I spend a lot of time there in the kitchen
 So yeah, the more of the kitchen is useful to you the better
 Yeah, uh-huh. I'm trying to figure out where I have room to put a screen
 You know because the countertops full of things. Oh, yeah, hang it on the fridge
 Yeah, hang it on the fridge. Get rid of some of those pictures of your kindergarten art and hang it on the fridge
 Perfect real estate. Yes. Oh, maybe a mold fashion
 But what I like to do is have a little ipad holder
 Just leave it on the table and when I come I bring my ipad with me and just stick it on the table in front of me
 And that's my screen when I'm at the table works great. It's right in front of me
 It does what I want. I don't have to get up and over to the fridge to look at youtube
 You know
 Or check the newspapers when did you ever have to do? I never would do that. No
 No, but if the tv was there, you know, it would be useful
 Maybe if it had an ongoing inventory of the stuff that was in the fridge and letting me know if something's going to be
 smelling soon
 Smart fridge that you can smell your food for you. Uh-huh. Yes
 Right. Yes. I think they just need a smell sensor in the refrigerator. See if anything's going bad
 Yes, yes
 The locks will put you on every day. Okay, but that old liverwurst has been there since october 1st
 Today's the 25th of may
 I think that's an allotron song
 Yeah, so that would be useful. So some way in which the screen
 reflects its positioning. I'm fine with reading the news on my ipad
 Some people are excited about the the meta glasses. They think the meta glasses and this is in the right direction
 Yeah, they seem to be getting better reviews than the apple vision pro people like glasses
 Three four hundred dollars, you know and you ray bands were big hit
 Yeah, and you've got all these smart enough exactly and they're planning to put more stuff in them all the time
 It seems like that's the direction where ultimately the xrvr glasses will predominate when they get the tech down
 Cheap enough small enough really got it. You always are rowing mrs. Future here. That's why i'm mrs. Future, right?
 Yeah, right get their head as good y'all. Yeah, so that we can all
 Show up eventually
 All right, well, we'll talk more about the meta glasses and the robot vacuum that also does tidying a robot that tidies for you
 That vacuum looks like it has a scoop on it
 I saw a little bit of an arm
 Attachments attachments really make the robot
 Cool new gadgets for our home and be right back
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 We're looking at a robot vacuum. I can do the tidying for you. It looks like it has a big scoop
 Uh-huh the scoop and attachments to your home robot be your home rumba
 Rumba with a robot arm a robot arm that can deal with tracking
 Dust balls giant dust balls lumps of pet fur who deals with those things in your house
 Well robot vacuums they were built to automatically whisk the stuff away
 But if you drop a sock or a pair of underwear on the way to the laundry room these vacuums
 They don't pick them up right they just push them out of the way or worse
 They get tangled in their wheels and choke on them becomes an obstacle stops every there it causes the go in a circle for hours
 No, no, they're not good
 And so to have your robot the ability to pick up a pair of underwear that you dropped on the way to the laundry is important
 I don't know that i'm going to pay a hundred bucks for that for the attachment
 Yeah, the arm it's easily worth a hundred bucks be able to pick up stuff off the floor. Come on. It'd be great
 Usually you need a human to rescue the robot, but if it had an arm to do those things it could save
 You a lot of time and how much is that worth to you?
 I guess we'll have to see
 Yes with the robo rock saro's z70
 You'll be able to have mechanical arm that can pick up debris and move it to designated areas
 Out of the way good for cleaning and what's interesting is that in the picture that they have of this device
 They show you it having a cloth in its grip
 So it could like scrub the dirt tracks that the kids made on the way into the house
 Yeah, i'm sure the people designing it are coming up with all kinds of use cases
 So
 I'm sure there'll be things that we haven't thought of until the robots here to show us what it can do
 Would you pay a hundred bucks for the arm bobby the kids in the kids room where you have toys strung out over where and they don't pick up
 Their underwear or whatever this thing could pick up after them. Yeah pick up after the kids
 But what kind of training is that for the kids or the robots pick up after them? That's right
 Well, they're gonna have their own nannies. Yeah, I see and then get used to it. That's the future, right?
 Everyone will have their own nanny and won't know how to pick up after themselves
 Yeah, even I can see how that could be a cautionary tale
 man
 All right, well, let's look at the smart glasses the vision centric wearables continues to evolve
 the one end was the expensive ones like the apple vision pro at the others were these ray bands we were talking about the meta ray bands
 In between you're seeing a growing market the vast middle there are lots of entrees and lots of opportunities for trying out new things
 Like for example, there's the holiday xr smart glasses
 And they have a little screen that puts that screen into your field of view in your glasses
 You have a companion ring which gives you some control over what you see without
 Tapping the frames or of a phone or some other device
 So you don't necessarily need to use your phone with your glasses. You can use your ring with your glasses or making choices
 We'll see if it takes off. Yeah, that's got the holiday xr smart glasses
 Wow
 Yeah, he's the ring just motion sensing and so when you move your hand it can
 Yeah, it's a some kind of I would say it has some kind of 3d
 Matrix that it's picking up on like a 3d mouse would do that. Uh, they have a little commercial here
 I'm gonna look like a regular pair of glasses
 But i'm actually wearing smart glasses that can project a tiny display in the corner of my field of view
 These are the holiday smart glasses and i'm checking them out s t s 2025
 So these connect to your phone and they can display information just above your point of view
 So for example in my demo here at ces
 I tried a translation demo where someone spoke to me in mandarin and I was able to see the translation in english
 And it was really simple. It worked relatively quickly even though the wi-fi isn't right here
 But there are a bunch of other use cases that I haven't been able to try yet
 And this does work with icon and androids we should be able to work with whatever phone you have
 And again, I haven't tried it too much because they're having some technical issues
 But I was impressed with how quickly the translation worked. So when you're looking at the display
 It's a little circle shape right above here like this is where it sits in my field of view
 The text is green. So it's isn't a color display. It's pretty big and clear and easy to see
 So it's easy to read when you look up
 But you do have to kind of adjust
 There's a module inside the glasses that you can adjust to make sure it's in the right place for your field of view
 Okay, that gives you an idea
 There's the new smartphone the holiday smart glasses. That's a cnet review
 Kind of makes sense. They have a screen that google glass tried to do that as well
 They tried to have a little screen in the upper corner. You had google glass. Yeah. Yeah, I still have it
 Does it display text on the screen?
 Yeah, it displays a screen of information
 I guess it would be easier if they could just display a web page
 Born generic being able to surf the web with it. That would be deal
 I guess the main thing though is that they've got these little projectors
 Like when you were using google glass, did you like the way it projected onto the screen? It was okay
 I mostly use them for recording, you know audio video
 Yeah, but I think one of the killer apps for the meta glasses seems to be the translation
 Also for the holiday the translation capability of doing real time from mandarin chinese
 Seen that lady was saying to english and back again
 Now if somebody spoke mandarin and I could see a subtext
 Underneath them as they were talking I would understand that because i'm used to reading movies with the subtext on
 Tiptops. Yeah
 Exactly. That's normal. I mean all of us do that
 So to be able to talk to someone another language and see it that way seems like a very natural interface
 How about a camera in the front of the lens or the glasses?
 And so when you walk down the street in a foreign country, it could read the signs and then
 Displayed in english in your glasses
 Why not I've seen an app on the iphone where it converts
 Any sign in a foreign language into english. Yeah, same shape just english
 So if it could do that, yeah, that makes sense
 But to be able to communicate to be able to ask where are the good places in town to visit
 I'm gonna find a bathroom even
 Yeah, you need to have some communication abilities
 What would make sense to me would be to have a some way in which you could speak your
 language and they would hear it in their language and they would respond and
 You'd see the subtext underneath them with your glasses on something like that
 So you don't know maybe you're making me think the interface would be like a phone
 Yeah, you use your phone with your phone with your language and then it would translate and then they'd listen on their phone in their language
 And then they'd speak and it would come back to you
 Yeah, the whole value of the phone would be mostly for having the speaker on it. So the universal connector
 Yeah, because they're not wearing glasses. They're not gonna have their your their cool men at classes like you will
 Right most likely
 So your phone becomes that interface for creating a speaker
 So if you could translate your language into their language
 And then your glasses could listen to that language and translate it either into audio or visual for you
 That kind of technology is pretty much here
 Now it's just getting the right combination of things so it flows well and people who travel a lot
 We're probably gonna tell you that there's probably a number of youtube movies about that whole idea and people trying it out
 Now, but the more seamless and invisible it is to the visitor you're the visitor to the locals the better
 I think in terms of an interface seems like in the future they'll have something like airdrop or bluetooth
 Between people's phones and then you could go up to somebody and then you
 Make a handshake and you connect the phones together and it would translate to their native language to your native language too
 That's a cool idea sort of the way that the bump works now, right?
 Yeah, exactly your airdrop or something. Yeah, optimize for language translation. That would be awesome
 The bump for a language translation would be great. The bump how many times have you actually used it the bump function?
 I use it sometimes
 Yeah, well the key is you got to get your if you want to share your address
 You got to have that ready to go and then it's easy then you just use it at a party you want to exchange numbers you bump
 You just have to remember to pull up the information that you want to share first and then bump. Yeah
 Uh, okay, I'm gonna try that. Yeah, that's the big one. Oh, yeah, that's my piece
 Oh, I bumped it nothing happened. It made a funny color and sound but it didn't do anything
 And contain me for a half a second. So yeah pull up the information first and then bump. We'll try it at your party bound bombing
 Okay. Yeah, well a lot of people. I'm sure we're gonna want to connect with
 Yeah, I want to connect with old friends. Yeah, okay, so we got something to do now with your party
 Well, let's talk to him. Yeah, you do that at the end of a scintillating conversation
 You bump funds
 Back at ces s samsung says that they have their new robot called bali
 B-a-l-l-i-e which will roll out so to speak it's a round robot. It's not a humanoid
 It's not a canister like the rubas. It looks like a bowling bag
 Looks like a bowling bag. Yeah with the screen
 Everything's got a screen these days
 It's been evolving. This is their home robot. They've been upgrading it for a couple of years now
 It's set to hit the market later this year
 They're trying to pitch it as a gadget that will act as your home assistant
 You know autonomously drive around your house and knows your home really well and it will accomplish what they say various tasks
 Now, what do they mean by various?
 Tasks they're still coming up with a feature list
 Robots have struggled to make headway beyond the vacuum in the home
 There have been big projects small projects all kinds that
 Just not worked for the home. Bottom line is is that the the robots have not had enough features to justify their high price tags
 Yep, that's my feeling bad. Oh, it's hard to justify
 But it's a cute ball. It's kind of cute. It's kind of popular in korea for what it's worth
 We're a different question, but it's at ces right now. They're going to see what kind of reaction they get to their little bowling ball robot
 Is it the year of the robot yet last year? You would have to say was the year of ai
 Right. You know what i like about this one is that it does have a projector in it
 And then it projects images onto the floor in front of it
 So it can communicate by projecting a screen
 So it's a little r2d2 with princess lea communications capacity
 Yeah, their advertisement is showing it entertaining a puppy
 There you go robots for your dog that is a good use for it actually, you know where the robot actually trains your puppy
 How sit it in i mean a room keep it entertained with teaching it mathematics canine math
 Right how about with a laser all it needs to do is have a red laser and pointer running around
 Oh, yeah, it can entertain the cats for hours
 Why not i mean if it can do a whole projection screen it can probably do a little i would think that you could also if you have a projector
 You could just turn on a little one dot or red dot really focus and create a red dot that moves around
 Without having to have a laser you just a way of manipulating the screen the LEDs in the screen
 If he could train your dog to do tricks
 Then people would buy it i think yeah, and also would we would house break them that would be nice
 Teach them to do tricks teach them to behave
 Cheese some not to bark i've seen that's a big one teach them not to grab the neighbor's dog around the neck
 I'm gonna get it gets near its dog bowl
 Teach you all kinds of stuff. Yeah, the canines could really benefit from our technology
 They need our help
 Yeah, why should it just be for us?
 We were taking care of a dog and it was a puppy
 And it would just go crazy when you turned on the vacuum cleaner
 It just could not handle the vacuum cleaner noise for some reason. Well, was it a husky where it just go?
 I mean think how sensitive their ears are it was a shepherd super loud very smart dog
 but
 One time I took leo to the beach
 And the first time we took him to the beach he was just so enamored by the ocean waves here
 Yeah, it's afrodsisco
 And he rolled over on his back and his head was toward the pacific ocean
 on the beach
 And it was like the ocean waves produced this what is it?
 Estean and as our and it's that sound where you certain sounds put you in this
 Static state right it said in the dog was on his back his legs up
 And his ears were flopping up on the sand and he was in heaven
 Yeah
 Something about the ocean waves just entranced them. Well, I mean he never experienced it before
 That was the first time he had experienced the ocean brought back past life memories
 Yeah, I don't know that's lives
 but he loves to go to the ocean he loves jumping in the waves and
 Running up and down the coast chasing the birds, you know, that's what he loves to do
 Does he bark at himself in the mirror?
 You know, I have a skylight in the kitchen
 And at night you could see your reflection. So he would like bark at himself, you know
 That's what I was wondering. Yeah, so then I'd have to take him in front of a mirror and show him
 This is yourself, you know, this is the mirror, but I don't think dogs can recognize themselves in mirrors
 No, I don't think so. I think they're I think I think that's one of those intelligence tests
 Well, wait a minute. Wait a minute. You're saying that parakeets recognize themselves in television. They don't recognize themselves
 They recognize other dogs. Yes, they do on tv and they have dog tv shows, you know, just for dogs
 Maybe they can be taught to recognize themselves
 They recognize that it's another dog
 And that's what they do when they see themselves in the mirror. They recognize it's another dog
 But if it's a chimpanzee, they recognize themselves or if it's a dolphin in a mirror, they recognize that it's themselves
 Yeah, yeah, I've seen some interesting experiments with this
 When you put a mirror in the woods and let animals see themselves
 You know, a beautiful mirror with a camera catching their reaction shots
 And some of the animals go crazy. They see I think a bear saw a picture of himself. He got so mad he broke the mirror
 Yeah
 But you're telling me that what about chimpanzees? I mean, excuse me. They would see them. So recognize probably themselves and chimps
 After a couple minutes they recognize themselves. It's the huh they have a big brain, right? So it makes sense
 But but what about parakeets? I mean they're tiny little p brains and they recognize themselves
 What's up with that?
 I know parrots certain kinds of parrots are very intelligent. They're smarter than dogs
 Is that effect with a very smaller brain or is it more dense?
 I think it's the way it's wired way. It's wired. So they would have self-reflective capacities
 And I understand parakeets like to have mirrors in their cages. I've never had a parakeet
 I'm very curious about that. That's interesting
 They can imitate sounds and they know what sounds or what words that they're making
 They know the meaning of those words. Well, the whole thing with the animals and the glasses and the translate we're talking about
 What if we had a zoological version of google translate?
 Where it's possible to decode the sounds of many creatures that we are sharing this place. A lot of people working on that stuff, isn't there?
 There is. Yeah, don't you have an article up?
 Exactly. It's called a segue. We've got artificial intelligence in the future of interspecies communication article.
 Okay, we're all ears.
 Yeah, it sounds a bit dr. Do little-y I admit, but that's exactly what lots of people want to do
 They are attempting using AI
 Another advanced tech to make interspecies communication a reality
 We've never had so much cheap sensors and advanced technology to listen to animals or watch them
 And there are a number of bio-loggers
 hydrophones, drones
 All that are out there to help us analyze
 the information that these other creatures might be wanting to share with us
 It's a good world for an animal behaviorist right now because you would be able to really have a heyday and understanding what they are saying
 Mostly to each other. They mostly ignore us
 You ever noticed that how most of nature is basically ignoring us
 Bees go about their business. Well, maybe they're not really ignoring us
 They just want us to think that they're ignoring us so that we'll not pay attention to them so that they can have a little more freedom
 Sneak something while we're not paying attention
 Intelligently ignoring us. I say yeah, potentially ignoring us. Yeah, just so that we leave them alone. Yeah
 Well, we should be able to test for that, Danny
 Yeah, well, there is a marinist professor a guy named con slubchikov
 slub
 What a name slubchikov
 He created the animal language institute
 Okay, he's collecting information on on animal communications
 He got involved with doing some actual research with this in 2018 with a new organization called zulingua
 Which is a startup that we're working to develop an app
 Specifically to allow us to translate dog body language and their vocalizations
 Language of dogs will be a new app. That was 2018 when he started that maybe it's available
 Right. Oh, right zulingua
 Z-o-o-l-i-n-g-u-a
 Yeah, if you want to talk to your dog now, maybe that's there or just listen to its bark and realize is it a bark of
 Sing hello, or is it a bark of distress or it barked? Yeah, I want food
 Well, you've got a point there. Why should we totally
 Depend on our gadgets to figure out what the dog is saying to us
 Often most people just let their dog tell them yeah, and most people have a rudimentary
 exchange of symbols
 So he's hungry. Oh, he wants to go for a walk, especially if he's carrying the leash in his mouth
 Yeah, now you're talking
 We
 We have a piece about some of the research organizations doing work in this that the animal language institutes zulingua
 There's also at the earth species project or esp it's a nonprofit and that's dedicated for using ai for decoding other creatures is
 languageing
 It includes scientists that are knowledgeable in neuroscience and deep learning and natural language processing
 It's quite a team at our species project that are developing a road map to guide us towards better connection with our fellow critters
 It does bring up a lot of issues. I remember very often I was told to leave the animals alone
 Right to really don't bug them. What were you doing that people were telling you to leave them alone?
 I think it was a zoo who is telling you
 Yes, well
 Climbing in with the apes
 Trying to get their attention, you know various ways
 Depending on the creatures. Oh, we're like showing them a little light show or something
 You know, I mean mirrors are good
 Oh mirrors you mirrors to the zoo. Anyways to play mirrors from seeing their image to reflecting light in their eyes
 Something's not so good. They got me in trouble. Yeah, and don't do that. Yeah, how old were you?
 Was it last year? Oh, okay. Was it recent way?
 Actually, the ones that taught me the lesson the best were not so much the human overlords
 And the zoos but more of the animals themselves they taught me to be good
 Like for example, there were some monkeys. It was in Miami. I believe it was the monkey
 monkey land or monkey
 Monkey world
 A snake world in a monkey. Oh, no, it's in Miami
 And yeah, it's like a zoo
 My brothers and I were so awesome monkeys and
 As kids we were pretending to be monkeys ourselves, you know, you put your scratch your arms underneath and
 Right, right? Exactly. Yeah, you doing that. We're doing that to them and they didn't seem to like it too much
 Surprise. Yeah, one of them got mad at us and he hauled off and created a huge
 A ball of spit in his mouth
 Spitted at us
 And he hit all of us with it like somehow that spit ball split up in midair and became three spitballs
 And hit us all of us
 So it's like a
 Yeah, it's like a
 Mursled up pressure somehow these monkeys had mastered. I was very impressed
 That's impressive. Hey speaking i'm impressed. Is that time of day? We got it. Let's go for break
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 Yeah, we did get a comment from Greg
 He thinks the best advantages of the autonomous cars is that you don't have to smell the driver
 to smell the driver
 or their tobacco or
 their breath or their cologne
 You don't have to deal with that you just have to deal with the smell of tobacco in the upholstery
 Hopefully not
 You see a lot of people would prefer to have their vehicles drive by themselves. Sure
 Why should you have to get out of bed or whatever just because you're a lift driver uber driver just have your car do it for you
 Yeah, I can't have your car do it for
 Exactly Greg also sent me a list of some of the innovation awards that just were won. Oh, okay. That sounds good
 Let's hear about that the CES innovation award for 2025 when hagamos fear. Yeah. Yeah hagamos fear right at hag
 MOS sphere
 hmm
 Just spherical drone has got eight propellers mounted in an acubic frame
 And allows it to move both horizontally and vertically while maintaining balance
 It's like that ball and star wars where they're they're trying to hit it with their with their eyes
 Occluded when they first leave the planet and it's like a Jedi training ball. Uh-huh right
 You're blindfolded on and you're using your lightsaber to hit the ball without looking that sort of reminds me. I'm just looking at it
 Uh, they said it's also designed to rotate on the ground by
 Housing itself inside of this geometric sphere
 It's got a sphere guard around it that protects the propellers so that you don't uh that propellers aren't exposed
 So they see that as being active in a lot of scenarios
 And I can see that I can see if you have a drone that can ball that can bounce around you can throw it into a building that's burning
 And it can have sensors on board that can detect uh life forms that might be in the body, you know animals or people
 For example a sphere that can fly a ball that can fly would be pretty cool
 So that won the CES innovation of the year award
 All right, so it's a flying ball
 That's a flying ball
 Right
 Let's see what else do we have here. We have uh the aqua sense
 It's the best in sports. It's a new sense of diving. It's the aqua long group. They have a first electronic connected breathing assistant underwater concept
 Revolutionizing the scuba industry. It sounds like a rebreather. It kind of looks like a rebreather
 But with apps a rebreather with apps. Wow
 It's the pulse of dive computer the app
 So what does it tell you exactly you use it while you're diving?
 Well, it keeps you linked into your dive group
 And also people on the surface so that uh all your moments are shared and you're safer
 It's a ecosystem that helps protect you when you're underwater
 Yeah, communications
 I don't know how the app works underwater. Maybe on anyways called aqua sense from the aqua long group
 Okay
 And the medical universe they have award goes to cure silk c-u-r-e s-i-l-k by medical
 biotech
 It's a wound care solution appears innovative spider silk protein bandages with a diagnostic app
 And they say that simply through a picture upload the app analyzes wounds
 recommends treatment plans and then guides the bandage usage
 Wow
 So your exposure turns out that silk
 Is a very good bandage because your body doesn't reject it like plastic band aids or things
 Because it's made of warm thread
 They say that spider silk protein is biocompatible biodegradable and promotes tissue regeneration
 Wow
 Enhances wound healing and improves access to care
 I guess through a picture upload you're able to properly treat a wound
 Kind of cool
 Especially in blow underserved populations where people don't necessarily know about uh the best way to treat a wound
 It's interesting. Okay, and then there's something for you and it's this future there called humming blocks
 From squareify humming blocks is an innovative music driven platform accessible to all creators including digitally marginalized people
 Originally marginalized
 Does it want to use a computer? It's intentionally
 The groundbreaking system empowers users to combine music arrangement with coding concepts
 uniquely configured for the visually impaired
 The 20 instrument and logic blocks are tactily distinct
 So they can be assembled without visual input
 By capturing these blocks with the app users can easily translate their physical arrangements into digital code and music creating an immersive and inclusive experience
 Multi sensory journey fusing creativity coding and music
 It seems like a kid toy. Yeah, it seems like a toy humming blocks humming block music based
 Remember when they came up with the something computer banana remember you could play
 You could plug some wires into a banana peel and turn it into a musical instrument. Yeah. Yeah, that was not a CES innovation though. That was
 It was more of a burning man
 Well, this kind of reminds me of it. It's that kind of toy tech
 Make a sound with the toy right also innovation was a smart display for digital inclusion
 It's a work and play smart display one from
 Corporation
 Okay. Wow ding ding ding another low-income household 22 to 24 inch display
 You can turn it sideways or it's like a giant phone. Yeah, all I had display
 22
 It's bigger than an iPad
 It connects to your phone and it turns your phone into a giant display
 That you can then hold in front of you. So they were talking about screens again
 Yeah screens it and make your phone better big screen from your phone
 And you just carried around and amplify that show people things
 I mean if your phone is part of your communications with somebody else, it kind of makes a lot of sense
 So so those are the innovation awards at CES this year. Thanks Greg. Yeah, thank you. Great
 You know what I find funny is tp link
 They're showing up as one of the innovation awards
 for their mesh system
 And the first thing I think they're going to be banned in the US here very shortly. What else?
 That tp link they make routers. Okay, and they have a back door to the Chinese government
 Oh
 So all the cybersecurity people in the US are saying that you have to get rid of your tp link router because they could open up
 Malware into your network at home
 Because they have a backdoor to China
 Hey Grisque. All right, so avoid tp link routers then
 Yeah, but it's funny that they have a CES innovation award
 So
 That's really kind of funny. They have tp link systems incorporated and they have the be
 1100
 11,000 outdoor indoor mesh Wi-Fi system 7. Oh, I didn't see that. Oh interesting. It was nominated for one of the awards. Okay
 All right, they're going to be banned in the US. I'm sure so it's kind of funny
 Man, well, that's the other thing is that they're planning to ban not just tiktok but the DJI drones
 But though I think that that might shift with trump coming into office
 Yeah, do we believe in a free market or not?
 Well, it seems like trump is going to ban the tp link routers
 I'm pretty sure he's going to do that too
 But I don't know about tiktok tiktok probably should be banned
 because you look at the elections in Romania or or Georgia or whatever some hanky panky going on there
 pretty
 Yeah, what they do is they wait till the last minute and then they
 blood
 tiktok with
 images of a new running somebody else running for president of that country and yeah
 All of a sudden, you know, it just rises up and out of nowhere you get this pro-Russian
 tiktater person that wins the election well, they've worked on this kind of manipulation of media for many many generations now
 They've got some of it down
 Inside of tiktok. Yeah
 Yeah, so it's governmental manipulation. Uh, well meanwhile
 It's okay if domestic corporations mess with our minds and such so you know
 It's just an issue that outsiders interfering with american elections
 Remember suddenly we went to that conference years ago where it was the first time that the world was being hooked up
 John Graham was helping us one of the first global conferences. Yeah, the hair is full
 Yeah, and they asked molen was there right?
 the day in the life of artist right uh photographer
 Yeah, and they asked the question to the world should foreigners be allowed to
 Participate in american elections since we have such a disproportionate influence on people's lives
 They asked that question and
 Surprisingly a very large number of the other shall we say the non-americans of the world said yes
 They should have a vote in the american system
 Because as son just said because of the influence that the united states has on the rest of the world
 The rest of the world should have some influence on the united states if it's a democracy
 Right, which it is
 So we should be amenable to feedback from those that we affect
 But maybe not the same level as a citizen
 But maybe a way in which we do pay attention to a global feedback
 What would be a good system? That's a good question to ask. How should we as a nation entertain the thoughts of others?
 Yeah, well
 Big question
 Answer that in a while five minutes of the day show minutes here
 I think when ai gets to the point where you don't have judges anymore
 You can decide what is best for the people it will have more control than influences and can detect influences from
 external nations
 coming into
 Coming into our
 And I think we'll have to submit to a superior power unfortunately
 Mm-hmm where it's going to go unless you know we program it not to do that. So but it's going out
 These so we have to be aware of that the prediction that you're making does not account for
 human nature and human history
 You're just what do you mean by that?
 You know, you're just kind of projecting that we're creating this technological superpower
 And therefore our human nature is going to become less
 free because of it and I think that's a projection
 I think a lot of people are mistakenly making that projection
 And I think that the kind of lessons that we learn are universal that
 the living universe always prefers a high level of
 freedom at the level of the individual and
 That that exists inside of an ecosystem of
 Synergetic energies the whole idea that we will have to make way for the computer to make all our decisions for us
 I find that abhorrent not abhorrent but just a projection
 I find it to be something that
 Abandoned a love and a respect for our history and for our accomplishments
 I feel like the price of our freedom is eternal vigilance and
 to project with your intention
 Or your belief that somehow
 Your own personal future will not be as free as the past because of some mechanical creation
 I think is abandoning human nature. I just don't agree with it
 Yeah, but I think all these processes that we have
 if you get a traffic ticket and
 If you have to go to court and all these processes will all be automated where you don't have to show up to court and
 like in the Jetsons where
 They just get paid this fine on the spot
 Yeah, see the judge you know the the cop comes by you see the judge on his screen
 And he charges you the money and you pay it and you go about your business
 Yeah, very efficient very efficient a lot of these processes that take lots of time and lots of people
 They're going to be automated
 somehow
 Where it's very
 And I think we're going to have a lot more leisure time in the future
 And we will have the ability to learn things
 And when it comes to elections, I guess our assistance are going to advise us
 How to vote or why I should vote for someone else and how it could personally
 Benefit you as a person. What's the best way to vote? I just imagine that's that's how it's going to be
 A lot of these politicians. I don't think we need politicians after a while because they're influenced by money
 They're in the pockets of big corporations a lot of them
 I just hope in the future that all this coercion by
 Corporations to influence politicians will be removed and that we can communicate our desires
 directly
 And something could decide what's the best thing for the best for the most amount of people
 Well, I think what you're saying is that the direct representation rather than
 Representative representation where you are directly representing your interests without having to
 Depend on a senator or congressman
 Who are overloaded and there's no way that they can pay attention to what anyone or handful of people in their constituency can do
 So the system already is very inefficient in its ability to reflect the sensibilities of who the senator is representing
 How is he ever going to really get to know his constituency
 For real. That's right. I think we have the technology to
 Voice our opinions and what are these right and and you're a representative who could truly represent your avatar can talk to his avatar
 Your or your representation could actually get the information through and it would yeah
 It would actually count for something so I totally agree with you there
 But how do we get there from here a I could figure that out
 So can humans humans can figure it out
 In fact, you mentioned the thing that's missing from this whole conversation is
 The fact that everything that is was created by people with the best possible
 Effort and intention creating what we're dealing with so what we have is actually a result of
 Who we have been and what will be created in the future will serve who we will be
 So we're always part of the equation. There's always a feedback loop that includes our
 Unique creative contribution as long as we exist. Yes. Yeah life loves life
 So how do you combine that in a way so that we all win?
 You intend it you you think about it that way you just yes, you exude
 Even though there's so much better than than us so many ways
 And a future that looks better than the past
 Right all the american dreams you get past this period of depression and you get into a period of
 wonderful appreciation and new creation. Yeah, I know but compared to how grand it all is. There's I feel like a
 Cockroach appealing for my existence
 Well, that's resist. I'll you're so much more. I know I know I know more than that
 I'm more than that just remember you get the wolf you feed. Yes, you got to feed the self that
 wants the beautiful future
 You got to participate from that place of knowing that you're important and appreciated and your efforts count
 Even though we are very small
 That's right. We're very small, but we're all in it together
 So unified we're bigger than the sum of the parts teamwork is the dream work. Yeah
 Absolutely. All right. Well, I'm not okay. Our first show in the future is winding down here
 Okay. Yes show in 2025 what do we got for next week? Well, the flat earthers have traveled to Antarctica to test out their theories
 We'll give you some of their results. It's a penny
 For your thoughts. All right. Well on that note. Thanks for being here folks
 Did you appreciate your attention?
 And we'll have more fun next week and we'll even have more interactive ways that we had a whole demo
 to show you of
 Larry and Mary interactive. We will save for next week from that too
 So you can talk to these entities directly and maybe they can help us figure out this future of democracy thing
 All right. Well, thanks for listening and thanks Bobby for being there. You have a great future now everybody
 And see you next week
 Bye-bye