- Drink in. - Oops, I forgot.
 (bell dings)
 You forgot.
 What would Star Trek people think?
 (laughing)
 - That's what they would think.
 - It's eastward for you.
 (laughing)
 Oh man, yes.
 - It's a very special day.
 - Yeah, Mrs. Future here thought that we should start
 with something innovative for the opening of the show today.
 - That's right.
 - 'Cause I get ready to say something innovative.
 She starts the music anyway.
 (laughing)
 That's all, we talk over the music.
 Hey, that's innovative, right?
 - How about just start now?
 Act like we haven't heard the music yet,
 and we'll put it in post.
 - Okay, three, two, one.
 (bell dings)
 You forgot.
 (bell dings)
 Hi, folks.
 Welcome to a rather unique show today
 as we actually have a live broadcast
 coming on in the second hour.
 Very possibly, maybe not,
 but probably regarding the Starship 6 launch,
 which is happening in Texas.
 - That's right.
 We are huge Starship fans here,
 and we like to view every live launch,
 and today happens to be right in the middle of our show.
 So, we're gonna take you there.
 - And everyday astronaut covers it really nicely,
 and we'll probably clink in with them a little bit.
 - All right, we're gonna go to the live SpaceX coverage
 right here on Future Now.
 - Bobby's on the air too, Bobby's on the air.
 - Hey Bobby.
 - Corresponding in San Francisco.
 - I'm here, glad to be here with you.
 - How's everything in your end of the woods?
 - It's great, yeah.
 - Cutty is in El Salvador,
 she's surfing class in El Salvador.
 - She's such a wild girl.
 That's so cool, I love it.
 - Yeah, the only problem,
 it's been raining the first couple of days,
 but today's is a good day, so.
 - You don't surf in the rain?
 I don't think rain stops a serious surfer.
 I mean, you're already wet anyway.
 - That's right, you know,
 little rain here doesn't stop for, you know,
 but there, I guess it was kind of a torrential rainfall.
 - Oh well, yeah.
 - Like a pre-horror rain.
 - Not a little rain, yeah.
 - Did you say El Salvador?
 - El Salvador, yes.
 - Oh.
 - Mexico.
 - Nice, is it a Bitcoin funded vacation?
 - You know, I offered to, she has some Ethereum
 and I said, she got a new phone
 and she wasn't sure how to put the thing in.
 - Yeah, the wallet,
 wallet literacy is gonna be the next big wave
 in digital money.
 - That's so funny, El Salvador.
 I mean, our neighbors are from El Salvador.
 Oh really?
 - Yeah, we have a whole long clave.
 - Yeah, so sweet couple Isabel,
 who has already been happy.
 - Well, she, they're not living that.
 - She's naturalized and her husband is Oliveiro
 and they're just wonderful people and he's on his way.
 I think she's pregnant and they're just very sweet people.
 - I think they moved, but they come here and there,
 they're helping to build this cabin.
 - Yeah.
 - For our neighbor, yeah.
 - That's great.
 - Yeah, they fixed our generator once,
 they came by and helped us out
 with fixing our diesel generator.
 Believe it or not?
 - People in South America, Middle America,
 they're very utilitarian and they can fix cars,
 they can fix anything because you're out there all alone
 and you don't have a part station,
 you don't have a, you know,
 you have to do everything yourself.
 - I know, it was very cool.
 I noticed also they had a power station,
 not unlike the one you put in at Taylor's up next door too,
 with two of those units from Costco.
 And it's more powerful than what we have.
 Our system is the last of the lead acid battery home,
 energy systems.
 This is lithium ion.
 Wow, it's really cool.
 - Lithium ion phosphate.
 - Lithium ion phosphate, right?
 Right, very cool.
 I'm impressed that you can actually run a whole operation
 from Costco bought solar components today.
 - Yeah, I looked at that sale by Anker at Costco.
 So what you have to do is you have to go to the Costco
 line and make sure you're logged in.
 And then there have something called Costco Next.
 And then there's a special portal that you go through
 and you get a special discount.
 And they're selling for $10,000 with some solar panels
 what Taylor has got.
 And normally this would cost about 14,000 or 15,000.
 - Yeah, now that would be equivalent to like a Tesla wall.
 Right?
 - It's equal to one and a half Tesla walls.
 Yes.
 - For about half the price?
 - For half the price of--
 - And it includes solar panels and batteries.
 I mean, the battery is the Tesla wall,
 but it includes generation as well.
 - Or you're talking around 10 grand,
 something like that for the system.
 - Yeah, it's 10,100 or whatever, I guess.
 - Yeah, but it's a DIY.
 You have to put it in yourself.
 All you need is an electrician.
 You don't need a solar expert.
 In fact, a solar expert won't really help you at all.
 - Who's that?
 Was that you?
 - No.
 - Yeah, but Taylor is trying to call me up.
 - I see, that's your phone, okay.
 (laughing)
 - So many inputs here, who's calling?
 - Yeah, just tell them to listen,
 and the tax defeat needs to.
 - All right.
 - I know what it's about.
 - Okay, now is the time to get these batteries
 and solar panels that are coming from China
 because there will be some time next year,
 some terrorists possibly.
 - Tariffs on Chinese product.
 - Chinese goods, so they--
 - Get ready.
 - They are priced right now at the best price ever
 for anything, so plan to do it either at the end of this year
 or beginning of next year, make your budget,
 and just check out, it's called a Solix 3,800 at Costco.
 - Solix 3,000, it's S-O-L-I-X, 3,800.
 Best bang for your buck system that you've seen
 that could power your house.
 - Yeah, all you need is find a friend that's an electrician
 and they just wired, they have the whole kit,
 all the batteries, the control panel,
 the box that does all the brains in it
 that can figure out when and turn on and off the air.
 - Right, yeah, cool, that's great.
 All in one, and I think our next upgrade
 is probably gonna be something like that for sure.
 - Yes.
 - Well thanks for that up to you.
 - How many megawatts do you get out of it?
 Like a two, 10, any idea?
 Kill a watt?
 - It's seven and a half kilowatts per grouping,
 so there's two groupings, so I think it's closer
 to 15 kilowatts.
 - So that's more than a Tesla wall?
 - Yeah, it's more than a Tesla wall,
 or 10 kilowatts.
 - 10, mm-hmm.
 - So this is one and a half, I'd say.
 - Yeah, that's what we talked about earlier.
 - All right, 15K, wow, great.
 - KW.
 - The best deal in town, plus the best deal in town
 for computers right now.
 - And for personal redundancy.
 - Oh, oh, that's--
 - When the grid goes down, right?
 - Yeah.
 - Who's that?
 - Who's that?
 - Uh-oh.
 - That's local, that's your computer, my dear.
 That's happening on your computer.
 - That's feedback.
 - Does he not realize that we're live?
 - Yeah, she says. - He's calling and shouting.
 - Okay, what did you say, Taylor?
 - The deal in Costco no longer exists.
 - So it's no longer at Costco.
 - Costco's selling a competing brand now.
 They're not selling the egg or anymore.
 They're selling Echo Flow.
 - Echo Flow, isn't that not as good?
 - I don't think there is good the Echo Flow.
 I don't like them.
 Also, make sure everybody knows that the M4-MEC Mini
 is for $500 at Costco, and the M4-Pro-MEC Mini
 is for $1,270 at Costco, and through December 2nd.
 - And those are the two best deals of computing
 of the century so far, huh?
 - That's right.
 - If you happen to have an extra--
 - Yeah, we'd buy the M4-MEC 4 for $500.
 - And it's a steal.
 - Yeah, the M4 is a significant improvement
 for the non-Apple people over the M1, M2s, M3s.
 - Not over the M2-Pro, but over the M1 and M2.
 - Over the M1, yeah.
 So if you have an M1 or M2, it's worth the upgrade.
 - Right.
 - Okay, cool.
 - For $500, especially.
 - 500 bucks for, it's a Mac Mini.
 - That's really-- - The M4-MEC Mini,
 it's an incredible deal, it's a steal.
 - Yeah, okay, got it, yeah.
 We have one. - So you get it.
 - We have the M1, Mrs. Future uses the M1.
 - Let's get the M4-Pro for $12.70.
 - Okay, so it's really--
 - For video editors.
 - For the editors, yeah.
 - It's so funny, you get my curious thrills
 from your friends buying the latest deals.
 - Yeah, well, I'm glad somebody does, right?
 You should get it, it's really good.
 Yeah.
 - Well, it's true.
 - It's straight on the clerk and they're not gonna find
 that danker deal that costs going.
 - Yeah, that's right, thoughtful of you, Taylor,
 I appreciate that.
 - Oh, right, yes, that's right.
 - Watch, you'll just come in now.
 - Okay.
 - You list $4,000 for the Anker 3800+1 external battery.
 - Yeah.
 - So it's $8,000 for two of those,
 then $2,000 for eight solar panels is what I paid.
 - Okay, so $10,000 total.
 - Yeah, that's what I was saying,
 it's around a $10,000 investment.
 - Which is-- - What's labor
 plus the installation--
 - Yeah, that's right, and you had an electrician,
 you had Bobby and you had Free Energy Bob.
 - Oh yeah, yeah, Bobby and Bob put the holes in my floor
 and then change the wiring for a thousand bucks.
 - Yeah, so, yeah.
 Expect to pay at least that, right?
 - Hey, expertise, it'll cost you.
 You want somebody else to do it, they gotta make a living.
 - It was still a steal,
 you're probably not gonna be able to find
 the regular person out there's probably not gonna find
 such a deal.
 - Are you totally running off the grid now,
 or are you just using it off the--
 - Taylor, and also I really want you to smile,
 otherwise I'm gonna drop your volume.
 - She's a real-- - She's a real--
 - She needs a smile. - I'm running off the grid.
 - During peak hours.
 - I'm gonna say you saved the hyper-spansom.
 - Yeah, I saved $45 so far.
 - There's 4PM to APM.
 - Over a two month period.
 - That's the 4 to APM timeline, that's right.
 - Yeah, 4 to 9.
 - That's when PG&E charges you the most, 4 to 9, really.
 - Yeah, but I don't have the solar panels
 on the roof yet, see, so--
 - That's still--
 - So you're just recharging from off-grid time.
 - Yeah, I'm running on the regular grid
 from 9PM to 4PM.
 - Oh, so-- - So the battery's
 charged off-grid. - Oh, I see.
 - I say so volume off-grid, off-grid peak.
 - Okay, thanks.
 Okay, well it's interesting now, it looks like
 when we brought in your channel,
 everything got really low on the network.
 - Oh, really? - Yeah.
 - So am I blowing your feed?
 - Yeah, you're blowing our feet, so--
 - We gotta go, but so thanks for the info, Taylor.
 - All right.
 - Okay. - Just wanna make sure
 everybody's getting misguided.
 They can buy direct anchor.com.
 - Anchor.com will still do it.
 - Yeah, the Black Friday anchor.com
 deals the same deal that was at Costco.
 - Okay, good.
 All right, thank you.
 All right, see you later.
 - Okay. - Okay, so let us check in
 for a second on Starship and see what's going on there.
 - Oh, is it time?
 - It's still early. - It's still early.
 - What is the worst case scenario for Flight 6?
 Apologies if this has been asked and answered.
 No, I mean, I haven't actually heard it this time.
 Great question.
 Again, get your questions out now
 because we still got an hour of a watch and paint dry
 of filling up a rocket with propellant.
 - Okay, okay, so that's where it's at right now.
 Okay, we have nothing to worry about.
 You're just watching paint dries.
 They fuel the rocket.
 - Takes an hour to fill this thing.
 We got a lot of stories to cover.
 But the thing to watch for on this one,
 besides the landing with the chopsticks,
 is that it's going to try to go higher than ever before.
 They're looking at how they can not just catch it,
 but put it in a higher orbit.
 They're also testing the heat shields.
 They're looking at how to maneuver the craft
 to get back in re-entry properly.
 But in their interesting rocket department
 is that there was a success with the USC Rocket Propulsion Lab,
 where they set a record for a college-created rocket
 called Aftershock 2.
 - Oh yeah, they're very proud of this.
 It's a new record for non-government space flight.
 - Yeah, 470,400 feet, new records,
 like 90,000 feet more than the old record.
 That's 143 kilometers, almost 100 miles.
 It's beyond the Carmen line,
 a 65 mile line that denotes space.
 It was carefully planned by the USC
 Viterbi School of Engineering Rocket Propulsion Lab, USC RPL.
 They are students that are designing
 and building rockets that push the limits of what's possible.
 They had about 100 students work on it
 and with that verified altitude of 470,400 feet,
 it's the highest flying rocket
 by non-governmental agency.
 And you know where it took place?
 - Nope. - Blackrock Desert.
 - Our old favorite, huh?
 - Burning Man. - Burning Man.
 - Burning Man. - Yeah.
 - Remember Blackrock Desert?
 Well, besides Burning Man,
 it's apparently a very popular zone
 for flying amateur rockets.
 - Wow. - Yeah.
 - Yeah, it's a big rocket.
 - 13 feet.
 - Yeah, it's rather big for any student or--
 - For anybody who's interested in doing model rocketry
 as a kid using Estes Industries rockets, yeah.
 Yeah, it's a big deal.
 (laughs)
 13 feet.
 But it's not a big deal when it comes
 to comparing it to an electron
 or some of the other small rocket company entrees
 into the payload business.
 It's not just aerospace engineering students either.
 It's mechanical engineering students
 and there are students there that know propulsion
 and fuel combinations and electronic skis.
 - Well, what's so interesting is that there's 100 people
 associated with this rocket club down at UC.
 And some of them are majoring in aerospace.
 This is really the sign of the time.
 - It's a whole range of people.
 - You want a new engineering job.
 - Chemical engineers even.
 - Launch a rocket.
 - There's something for everybody.
 Yeah, the titanium coated fins
 using a new heat resistant paint
 that they had to design.
 They built their own computer systems
 to enable real-time tracking of the rocket's position
 and giving you live data as it travels through space.
 - Yeah.
 - And to integrate that data was part of the process
 of learning for all these students
 in their respective fields.
 What's interesting about a rocket launch
 is that it gives you a sense of completion and fullness.
 You have a planning stage, you have launching,
 you actually see how it actually works
 and then it comes back or not.
 And it's a constant learning process
 all the way through.
 - You were in a rocket club at one point, weren't you?
 - I started one.
 Yeah, yeah.
 The Apollo Rocket Club.
 Yeah.
 - Did you launch some rockets?
 - Of course we did.
 - How high were your rockets?
 - Well, they weren't very high.
 I was like six grade, all right?
 You know, it was a sixth, seventh grade.
 And we lost many, but we launched them
 from the local park.
 - Uh-huh.
 - Yeah, in Philadelphia.
 - Oh, cool.
 - And I also found out that Night Chrome Wire
 doesn't work very good in some freezing weathers.
 You can't launch Estes Industries rocket
 with Night Chrome Wire when it's below 32 degrees.
 - Oh.
 - Fahrenheit.
 - What happened?
 - Things you never forgot.
 - Well, the whole thing of Model Rockets
 is that they wanted to make it safe
 by using electricity rather than matches
 to launch a rocket or fuses.
 And so the technology works like your toaster.
 It's got a wire that turns red hot
 and then that launches the rocket.
 You stick it up and rockets nozzle.
 (laughs)
 And it's a little curl.
 It's the best ones are little coils,
 little coils of Night Chrome.
 And you stick it up there and you hook it up to a battery,
 flip the switch and (blows raspberry)
 off it goes.
 - Right.
 - But when it's really cold, your battery's not putting
 at enough juice.
 I think the little rocket launcher,
 they sold this, used like double A batteries
 to heat up the Night Chrome Wire.
 What you need is a car battery,
 but who's gonna carry a huge massive car battery
 near a kid?
 - Well, you're by doing, right?
 - Yeah, yeah.
 So we'd end up, my brothers and I would carry the car battery.
 Firstly, when we moved to another place,
 we had a field nearby where we could do it.
 It was easier, much easier than carting a battery
 a couple miles to the park.
 What we found though, is that you could take some fuses
 out of fire crackers and pull the fuses out of the fire cracker,
 stick one end in the rocket and the other end,
 you could light it.
 That worked just fine.
 And so that was a solution for cold weather,
 was fire cracker fuses, which was strictly,
 you know, not supposed to do that.
 And it wasn't, it was like,
 don't be a basement bomber, these to say.
 But it worked, it worked really well.
 - They had you guys all figured out.
 - Well, they didn't count on the ingenuity of teenagers
 in finding the path at least resistance
 and getting something accomplished.
 The fuses were designed to light fireworks, right?
 So of course they're gonna light a rocket engine.
 Perfect for that.
 - Perfect.
 That's why you got into the biz.
 - So the only thing is that they can burn fast,
 they can burn slow, you know,
 you don't have as much control over a fire cracker fuse
 as you do over a night chrome wire or so we think.
 - Well, this is so valuable, all this information.
 - Yeah, I don't know.
 - And yeah, do you think anybody down at UC
 has any idea of any of this stuff?
 - Of course they do.
 These guys are,
 - Yeah, you think your knowledge is pretty standard.
 - Yeah, it's pretty standard.
 It's pretty standard for teenager geeks who,
 well, Bobby probably knew about fuses and rockets.
 - Yeah, I almost blew myself up.
 (laughing)
 - Saying that's more than I did.
 I never, I never cut that far.
 - Well, yeah, somebody gave me some gunpowder
 and I was trying to put a time fuse on it
 and it was added in a coffee can inside of a coffee can
 and I used one of those fuses just like you said
 for fire crackers and stuff.
 - Yeah.
 - I had a candle, so I was gonna light the candle
 and then the candle was supposed to burn down
 to where it would get to the fuse
 and then it would light it off.
 As I lit the thing, the fire cracker fuse went off.
 (laughing)
 - No, it'd run.
 - You're the ground and fortunately I had a glass jar
 with holes in it and one of the fuses went into it
 and I was expecting this huge like bomb to go off
 with glass shrapnel or something,
 but actually all it did is go pop.
 And because there wasn't enough,
 I didn't wrap it with tape.
 I didn't make it with a pipe bomb or anything.
 - Pressure, yeah, right.
 - Man.
 - There wasn't any pressure, so it just popped off
 the top of the thing and it just went pop.
 - You know, I wonder if there's an age line
 where the typical kid would have this kind of knowledge.
 Like I think in our era, it was pretty common
 that there'd be somebody who was experimenting
 with rockets and well, typical pyromaniacs.
 And now kids will think that you're a terrorist
 if you're playing with that kind of thing.
 - Oh, it was pretty standard.
 - So if you do a big saiadine with crystals,
 you know, you get these.
 - Standard chemistry sets.
 - I'm not even sure you can buy those
 standard chemistry sets anymore.
 I think that they have safety chemistry sets now.
 You can't blow anything up.
 - That's right.
 It's right, explosives is a black art literally.
 It's gone dark.
 - Well, you have to get licensed now.
 You have to get a security clearance.
 - No, it used to be you could buy dynamite.
 - But you use your power.
 - You could buy dynamite at the local hardware store.
 - Mm-hmm.
 - C5, just sitting on a shelf.
 - Oh, not C5, but you've got dynamite.
 (laughing)
 - You had to blow up some tree stumps on your property,
 stuff like that.
 It was pretty standard in Canada.
 And here, you know, in the woods.
 Stuff like guns, you know, that whole knowledge base.
 It still exists.
 - You're gonna get to power it.
 - It's just not as much in California
 or in civilized society.
 People don't think about explosives that way anymore.
 - Interesting.
 - And because it's got a bad rap,
 but explosions actually power our cars.
 Explosions power their rockets.
 It's controlled explosions.
 We've gotten good at controlling that energy,
 the explosive force and creating
 all these cool machines out of it.
 And also.
 - Well, I'll tell you, these students that you see
 are totally excited.
 They're celebrating their accomplishment
 to set a new record.
 They've gone as far as they can go legally.
 In order to go further, they would have to get
 some kind of space formation.
 - 40,000 feet.
 - I think here's all your allowed.
 490,000 feet.
 If you're into model rocketry.
 - Feet or kilometers?
 - Feet.
 - Feet.
 - 490,000.
 And they went 470,000.
 - Yeah.
 - Okay.
 - They're just at the, they need special clearances
 to go beyond that.
 I guess that's where you need to have enough capacity
 to actually launch a rocket and.
 - Yeah, it got over 5,000 miles an hour.
 - Yeah.
 And it's not just unregulated space anymore.
 Now, when you send something up,
 you have to have a plan for getting it down again.
 - Oh, right.
 You're not allowed to just contribute to the space junk.
 - Right.
 - You can't put things in orbit anymore.
 - Yeah, so you have to have a.
 - Without permission.
 - And to have a plan, you have to have the technology
 to move your rocket or your satellite into a dead orbit
 or out of the way, place where.
 - Interesting.
 - Yeah.
 - You know, probably with the.
 - Or de-orbitant.
 - AIs becoming useful at the same time
 as we're starting to explore space.
 The way that we put things in space
 with all kinds of data around where it is
 and how big it is and how fast it's going.
 And the space being more vast than the ocean,
 it may get us into the habit of identifying the objects
 that are going into the ocean in such a way
 that we can avoid pollution in the ocean as well as in space.
 Like the AIs would be working the same way.
 - Yeah, why not?
 - Just like packet switching for data
 gave us insights about how to do traffic control.
 - Well, certainly the space information is helping us
 see the health of the oceans much better than before.
 - Right.
 - So it only makes sense that if we de-orbit things
 into the ocean that they're ultimately good for the ocean,
 not polluting for it.
 Or they can inject something into the ocean there
 that would be helpful.
 - I'm just starstruck at how our increased access
 to information which this computerized age
 of information has given to us has both been a blessing
 and a curse because say in the Obama era,
 because of the satellite photographs
 that were taking pictures of,
 I'm just trying to say that a while ago
 when we were still in the innocent phase
 of the information universe, the new universe,
 you had people like Obama saying war is obsolete
 because we can see every centimeter of the planet.
 And of course then the war machine kicked in
 and it suddenly became important to guard our privacy
 so we can have a surveillance state
 and so we can keep our secrets.
 And instead of all of this vast information
 being a public utility, it turned into a power grab.
 And that's the phase that we're in right now
 is how to control access to all of this power of information.
 Meanwhile, we're still getting more information
 that we know what to do with
 and that's why we're developing AIs
 so that they can help us make sense
 of all this extra data about our planet.
 - We have a couple stories on that topic
 from how to make sense out of thousands and thousands
 of police cameras, body cameras that are wearing now
 and how they're not using that information
 and how it could be better utilized, for example.
 - Of course, the one I liked better was the one
 about studying the ionosphere with all the Android phones.
 Oh yes, yeah, that's our great citizen science project.
 Hey, why don't we talk about that after the break though?
 - Okay.
 - We can't do that 'cause that's a,
 that's fascinating, it's a citizen science program.
 If you, an Android user, you can participate
 in a major study of the upper atmosphere.
 - All right, we'll be right back.
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 - Okay, we are back and we have a text in.
 Looks like it's for you, Bobby.
 - Oh really?
 - Yeah, well it's to us as well.
 My futures is, is this the sale you're suggesting?
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 That's an anchor dot com.
 I guess it is, it sounds pretty much--
 - That was the deal that Costco had
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 - And they have 35% off sale for Black Friday
 but it's already started.
 - Okay, yeah, it says 6,799, 4,334 off.
 Wow, yeah, 200 watt panels.
 Wow, and two of the units.
 - That's a very good deal.
 Just find an electrician that will actually put these,
 it's a 100 watt sub panel into your house
 and then they just wire over everything
 that in an emergency would run through
 this 100 watt sub panel and then you're ready to go.
 - So, son, you were gonna tell us about
 the Citizen Science Project involving Androids
 on a world basis to report on the health of the atmosphere.
 - Yes.
 - Is that right?
 - So this is a classic AI application.
 So we've got a Google AI developer
 whose last name is Morton
 and we've got an atmospheric scientist.
 The two of them came together to use space data
 on the solar radiation that can identify
 how the ionosphere looks.
 So we can have a map of the highest layer of the atmosphere,
 the ionosphere, which is the layer
 where the colors of the aurora borealis are.
 It's where the light gets absorbed.
 - Yeah, ionosphere is also important for radio propagation.
 - Yes, and so basically the ionosphere distorts
 the signals that are coming in,
 but until now we didn't have a good way
 of correcting for that distortion.
 - So you have radio signals going to your Android
 over the Wi-Fi or I guess is the quality
 of the phone signal going to your phone.
 - So basically what's happening is that
 your phone can receive data.
 It is tuned to all kinds of different frequencies
 and so when it gets certain frequencies
 it can send out a little message.
 Kind of the way that ways will send out information
 about your location so your car can be put on a map.
 And so this is using your phone
 so that it's collecting two different frequencies
 of solar radiation and when all of the Android phones
 are used to broadcast these two little frequencies
 of solar radiation, the distortion of the ionosphere
 can be corrected and therefore we have a very accurate map
 of the ionosphere because all of these little
 androids have put in a little blip of data about it.
 They've corrected the distortion.
 And there's a really good video about it,
 mapping the ionosphere.
 - Yeah, I'm kind of curious how exactly
 they get the phones to tune into the ionosphere.
 These two frequencies are generated by who and--
 - Okay, so the people doing this are using the GPS sensors
 that come standard in every smartphone
 and they collect data on how the Earth's atmosphere signals
 are coming from satellite.
 So it's actually getting satellite data
 but that's going through the ionosphere.
 And in the process they are viewing what's happening
 in the atmosphere, they call them little plasma bubbles
 never before seen detail.
 So because of the phones being able to use their GPS location
 and to see these two satellite signals,
 they're basically triangulating how much the signal
 was distorted by the ionosphere and coordinates.
 - And the signal distortion is gonna be different
 for every phone.
 - Right.
 - And the phone reports its signal.
 - Yeah, and so all of these phones
 are reporting their distortion data.
 And then being used to correct where the satellites
 actually were when they sent the signal
 and then that correction is actually a map
 of the ionosphere.
 - That's interesting, it reminds me--
 - AI doing the data.
 - It reminds me of ham radio.
 - That's it.
 - It does because they're geeks
 so they don't really usually say much to each other
 than the weather and what they're having for dinner.
 And oh yes, and your signal quality and how good it is.
 I said, "You're coming in good five by nine there,
 "five by nine."
 You have different measurements of how strong your signal
 is the signal to noise ratio kind of stuff.
 And you associate that with where they are.
 So I said, "Oh, we got a good skip to Moscow this evening."
 So if you wanna try to do some long distance connection,
 de-exing, try focusing on that area.
 So you'd get reports on the ionosphere
 and how it was behaving for skips especially
 so that you would be able to reach remote destinations
 more easily, more likely during certain skip times.
 So the ionosphere was a great map
 for that kind of information.
 But it sounds like they're looking at the ionosphere
 as being way more useful than just--
 - Well yeah, I mean that level of detail,
 you basically knew the difference between
 what was happening at night
 and what was happening during the day, right?
 - Yeah, there are certain times a day
 that you could get better signals from further away, right?
 - Right, right, yeah.
 - Yeah, and so this is related to that,
 but it's much more granular in the detail.
 They're literally doing micro measurements
 of signal distortion from all the androids.
 This information is not personalized.
 It's just that this is because all the androids
 are equipped to have GPS information,
 they all have access to this particular feedback loop.
 And it's just using the feedback loop
 instead of to map the phone itself,
 it's used to measure the distortion
 of the satellite signals so that you can map the ionosphere
 that did the distortion.
 Very counterintuitive, very computer brain
 and it's logic and yet that's the level of resolution
 that we are accessing now in our technological universe.
 - Yeah, it's very cool.
 Well, are we gonna Android?
 Maybe we should plug into that network.
 We've got many iPhones too,
 but let's put our androids right now.
 Our androids being used for getting text feedback
 from you folks at 338-7228,
 or 831-338-7228.
 You can text us and that deal that I talked about,
 there's a good deal, but according to Taylor,
 that's not the deal he was thinking of.
 He's saying his deal was 3,800 plus the external battery
 for 4,000, not the 3,800 plus solar panels.
 - All right, well.
 - So anyway, let's be clicking at some of these articles.
 - Let's do it, we don't have that much time.
 I like the RoboTaxis, I like the fact that Waymo
 is now open to anyone who wants to drive a driverless ride
 in Los Angeles as well as San Francisco.
 - There you go.
 - That's a huge break.
 - Waymo or shout.
 - Yeah, Waymo opened this Tuesday.
 They opened a RoboTaxi service to anyone in LA,
 which is another milestone in the evolution of self-driving
 technology.
 And they're only private, like Google test people
 were allowed to be there.
 - San Francisco was one of the first cities,
 which is cool, was here.
 And now Los Angeles, so that's really hitting the mainstream.
 - All right, we're looking for stories.
 If people have any Waymo stories, we're very--
 - I saw one the other day.
 I saw one was one of the late night talk show hosts.
 His mother-in-law being picked up,
 but actually they did a prank on her
 where the driver said he had to go take a leak,
 and they left the car and it took off with her in the back seat.
 (laughing)
 She freaked out, they caught her freak out on camera
 and they put it on.
 - Oh man.
 - Yeah.
 (laughing)
 - So it took off without him?
 - Yeah, yeah, she's like an 83 year old lady.
 He came by as a normal cabist,
 gave her a ride in East City.
 They stopped at a convenience store,
 he had to use the restroom.
 Then the cab just took off by itself.
 (laughing)
 And then I had to say, "What the hell?"
 And she could talk on her phone
 and they had a conversation with her
 while she was being freaked out.
 - That's pretty hilarious.
 - Yeah, so that was LA.
 That was-- - Oh boy.
 - That's the guy who does ABC.
 - Jimmy Kimmel?
 - Yeah, Jimmy Kimmel.
 - Uh-huh.
 - Yeah, it sounds like a Jimmy Kimmel joke.
 - Yeah, yeah, she was pissed off at the damn boy.
 (laughing)
 - Outrage.
 Outrage is the new comedy.
 - Yeah, what a car it takes off by itself
 with you in the back seat.
 (laughing)
 - Oh man.
 - That was in Silicon Valley originally.
 - Yeah, well originally, yeah, it's still not used to it.
 But what they're finding though
 is that people get used to it really quickly.
 It's almost natural.
 It's like, "Well, of course we have a driver
 for where we want to go."
 You know, like, it used to be only
 the very rich could afford that.
 But no, Waymo is making it at regular taxi service.
 - Oh, you know, that lady could have really used
 her Apple AirTag.
 She probably needed to use her Apple AirTag for that.
 - Calm down, calm down, yeah.
 - Right.
 - It was another article we have.
 I'm trying to segue, get through faster.
 (laughing)
 - I have a Waymo story.
 - I do, okay.
 - You know that just down the street from me.
 - Yeah.
 - In the middle of the night,
 like maybe one or two in the morning.
 These Waymo cars, they don't have a garage
 that they drive to.
 On this one block, there's this Waymo
 and it just parks itself there.
 And then it has little red lights that are blinking.
 And it's just like falling asleep.
 And it sleeps until the very morning
 where it's asked to work again.
 - Oh, so it literally goes into a sleep mode, huh?
 - Yeah, and it parks itself.
 I noticed it doesn't always park in the same spot,
 but it finds other spots to park.
 - Interesting.
 - It doesn't have a garage to go to.
 - It doesn't have a charge zone either then, huh?
 It's just a-- - Well, the projection
 of people who are developing the future vision
 is that these battery operated vehicles
 will be fleets of cabs that drive around
 and take email requests or take online requests
 to go pick people up.
 And they don't need to find parking places.
 They just need to keep going from passenger to passenger.
 And it's gonna take the place of everybody
 owning their own car.
 - Yeah, I mean, if you can easily just call up a car
 and take your E-1 to go, you don't necessarily have to have
 a car or have to deal with the hassle of parking
 and driving, you just go.
 So it totally makes sense.
 They say it's actually proving to be more than just
 the novelty with these driverless rides.
 Weibo now transports more than 150,000 weekly trips
 in its robo taxis.
 That allowed them to raise about 5.6 billion
 from its corporate parent alphabet and list of investors.
 You've invested in Anderson, Corrowitz, T-Roe, Price.
 It's maturing quickly.
 - Well, now that Tesla's leaving California,
 big opening for Google.
 - Well, that doesn't mean they're leaving
 the California market, you know.
 - That's true, just their headquarters.
 - Yeah, yeah, it doesn't matter where you are
 these days.
 - Autonomous driving can happen anywhere.
 - The rules of the area that you can agree to.
 Google's been working on it since 2009,
 and they spun off from Google in 2016 as Weibo,
 and they're clearly the leader in the robo taxi industry.
 We also have the robo taxi air taxis here in Santa Cruz
 with-- - Jobe.
 - Yeah, Jobe aviation. - Jobe aviation.
 - And they're taking off in that arenas.
 But the Tesla is also launching their rival cybercab service
 by 2026.
 That's all unfolding.
 - That's software. - Yeah.
 - That's just a software upgrade.
 - Yeah, you're not using your Tesla, a full auto drive.
 I imagine you could probably rent it out.
 - There you go. - Pimp it out for you.
 - You need to cover those payments,
 get some robo customers.
 - You don't feel like working?
 Well, how about your car?
 - That's right, put your car to work for you.
 - Yeah, what do you say?
 - Solving that problem.
 It's gotten so easy to take money out of your bank account.
 Finally, you're gonna be able to automate
 putting money into you.
 - I think so.
 I think that's the big transition,
 is that we're the robots, not just our services
 that we pay for, but they provide us the service
 of making money for us.
 - Yeah, but you'll have to own more than one robo car.
 You'll have to own a whole fleet.
 Otherwise, you won't be able to make much income
 beyond how much it costs.
 - Elon suggested that, I think,
 as one of the potential entrepreneurial activities,
 is that instead of driving a car,
 you'd control a fleet of cars as one person.
 - Yeah, he probably wants to sell them
 to the car rental agencies,
 because it's gonna put them out of business.
 - And it's a whole thing to be in charge of a robot taxis.
 - Yeah.
 - It's a business, right?
 It's a little way it can be.
 - Yeah, so taxi drivers, here's your future opportunity.
 Get ready to be a fleet dispatcher.
 Keep your cars in working order.
 - Yeah, yeah, it's a big deal.
 - You know, Tesla did put Hertz out of business.
 - Oh, really?
 - No kidding.
 - I didn't hear that before.
 - Well, what happened was,
 Hertz had bought all these Teslas,
 and then the rental car market actually collapsed,
 and they did not want to.
 - Wow.
 - Tesla, because they didn't know how to drive them.
 - 10 seconds, man.
 - Hey, we gotta go to the news break.
 We'll be right back.
 (upbeat music)
 Okay, we are back.
 - All right.
 And since we were talking about robo-taxis,
 there's a group of scientists that have created little--
 - Mini cars.
 - Mini cars to be driven by mice.
 (laughing)
 - Look at that.
 - Driving mice, a rat.
 (laughing)
 Bigger mice.
 - Rapmobile.
 - Yeah, rapmobile.
 - Holy various.
 - There's a woman neuroscience, Kelly Lambert,
 was running at the University of Richmond.
 - Lambert.
 - Hey, it's a relation to you, maybe.
 - You got Lambert's in your family?
 - Yes, that's true.
 The study began in 2019 when her and her team
 began designing little tiny cars for the rodents.
 They were exploring how animals learn new skills
 and how environment affects behavior.
 It got a lot of attention in 2022,
 and it was even in a Netflix documentary.
 - Uh-huh.
 - What was interesting was that the rats
 didn't just tolerate the training for a reward,
 but they actually enjoyed driving.
 - Oh, right.
 - They actually enjoyed the process.
 They found that the rats had an intense motivation
 for their driving training.
 After they run into the car and rev it up
 and take off and hit the road doing wheelies.
 So they liked the speed, they liked the motion,
 they liked the whole experience.
 - Wow.
 - Yeah, so somehow rats love to drive.
 - Uh-huh.
 - And they were apparently so excited about it.
 It's tantamount to you coming home
 and your dog getting you the leash for him
 so you can take him for a walk.
 You know, come on, let's go.
 (laughing)
 - That's great.
 That's really driving train rats
 would run to the side of the cage
 ready to take a drive.
 - That's right.
 And they're not just to get the treat at the end
 when they hit the finish line,
 it's a certificate actual joy of driving itself.
 - Wow.
 - Which worries me about the autonomous vehicles.
 - Oh, there goes our joy of driving, huh?
 - I know, right?
 - We're gonna not have our people jumping up
 for the thrill of driving anymore.
 - Yes, there's something about actually driving
 that's a thrill that's exciting
 and we've got to figure out.
 - True, I love it.
 - Not to, like go on that.
 - We're in the middle of the age of driving here.
 - Yeah, yeah, there's certain,
 maybe we can drive something else.
 - Well, I think like everything else
 we've mastered in books or the one off experience
 is going to be for the connoisseur
 and the mass experience is going to just become
 more and more efficient and be used more and more
 by people who it's not their cheap thrill.
 - Yeah, well, there's mass transportation
 and then there's the thrill of driving
 and that's true, it's only like maybe 1%.
 That really need to drive at any one time
 because of that basic thrill.
 But so 99% of the time it's not an issue.
 - Right.
 - But at 1% of the time, maybe you can, you know,
 while you're in your car or you could be driving
 some simulator.
 - Yeah, some simulator, well, now that cars
 are gonna be driving, that'll free us up to get better
 about robots. - To do something else.
 - We can spend more time with our robots
 since we don't need to worry about our cars.
 - Yeah, the car itself, the internal car,
 I think the Waymo and Tesla are playing with that.
 If they have no pedals and no steering wheel,
 then it becomes more like a traveling office space.
 - It's like a train.
 - People aren't afraid to get on a train.
 - Or you could have bean bag chairs
 and have a more of a living room kind of experience.
 Put you into a virtual reality.
 All kinds of possibilities.
 The rats found their brains stimulated.
 They had a sense of satisfaction and gratification
 from driving.
 And so it got them thinking, the Lambert team,
 about the science behind the fund.
 - Yeah, they're studying rat emotions.
 - Yeah, about movement and travel
 and moving in time and space,
 but not moving the body.
 The body stays still as you move your vehicle.
 - Uh-huh. - Right?
 So they're looking at all those things
 and they're looking at how learning new skills
 can stimulate the brain and how animals like us
 actually find joy in mastering challenging tasks
 like learning to drive.
 Like if you're excited about something
 and you're thrilled about something.
 - I'll tell you, I think people would really learn
 much more fond of rats if they only had to deal
 with rats in cars.
 If they had little rat mobiles
 and anytime you saw a rat,
 it was in its own little rat mobile.
 People would probably like rats better
 than they currently do.
 - Well, it depends on what they did with their vehicles.
 They might be-- - People don't like
 seeing wild rats in their home.
 - Yeah, I think rats might more tendency
 to be aggressive drivers.
 (laughing)
 - And they would think nothing of going next door
 and raiding their refrigerator over there.
 - Oh, there you go.
 - Could try to come back with the goods here.
 - Sure.
 - You really gotta understand,
 you helped them transcend their limited
 scarcity-based model of behavior.
 As Peter Domenes might say.
 - There's lots of neighbors you can invade, not just me.
 - Oh, they get to teach them abundance training.
 There's enough to go around.
 They don't have to scrap them.
 - Are you sure you're not working for the rats?
 - No, I'm saying that if you're gonna create
 an abundant economy for humanity,
 you gotta think of the other animals too.
 You know, if you're gonna upgrade our survival strategies.
 - Our survival leads to more survival for them.
 - Yeah, yeah, we gotta, you know,
 truly abundant thinking involves the entire ecosystem,
 don't you think?
 - Good point, good point.
 - Well, I'd contend if we just like the animals better.
 We don't need to increase them rating our food supply.
 - No.
 - Rate mobiles or they can use for checking out the neighbors.
 - I like that idea, actually.
 - What if we introduce cats and dogs in this rat mobile?
 - Well, I've seen dogs that really enjoy skateboarding.
 - Dogs would probably like to drive cats.
 They like to be driven.
 (laughs)
 - They have the first autonomous.
 - They just want a soft, comfortable seat
 in the autonomous vehicle.
 - They don't mind telling it where to go though.
 (laughs)
 They don't wanna have to jump.
 - No, you don't have to,
 cats do not need to instruct,
 you know a cat wants to go where the sun is shining.
 They wanna go where the heat is warm.
 - They want the living room experience.
 - They want the cush,
 they wanna walk on your keyboard.
 We already know where cats want to go.
 - Yeah, they probably prefer not to even have to deal
 with the keyboard.
 - That's right, they want your attention.
 No, they want you to stop dealing with the keyboard.
 - Exactly.
 - They'll step on it to stop you.
 - They're an example of emotionally driven creatures.
 - That's right.
 - And that's what they're saying here in the study,
 is that if you link an emotion
 to something you like to learn, like driving,
 if you enjoy driving and it's emotional,
 then you're gonna more likely do it
 'cause it has that emotional hook in it.
 - You do not need a science research paper to tell you that.
 - Did she do that?
 - Yeah.
 - You don't need a PhD to figure that out.
 - No, no.
 - Okay.
 - I think that's a little self-evident.
 - There are dogs that love to go driving in cars
 and they like to hit their heads out the window
 and they really enjoy being in a car.
 - Being a passenger, yeah.
 - Yeah, yeah.
 - That's true too.
 You do bring up the point that being a good passenger
 is every bit as thrilling as driving for many.
 - And that there's a wide variety of personalities.
 Some dogs are afraid of it and some dogs can't wait for more.
 - Yeah, so I think dogs should be part of the ecosystem.
 As a matter of fact, I would think that they would have
 their version of a segue for like in segue.
 They should have a moving platform that they control.
 I think the segue's, there's two wheeled contraptions
 that 20 years ago, they thought that would become
 the new norm form of transportation on the planet.
 Not, but they're cool, they're cool.
 And Greg and Richard have them and they used to use them
 all the time, probably not so much these days.
 But the animals would probably love having
 conveyance of that sort.
 Remember the turtle, the turtle that would write
 on a skateboard?
 So turtles seem to like to move fast as well.
 So I think we're finding out a lot about animals
 where we give them access to some of our
 transportation technology in this case.
 - No doubt.
 - Yeah.
 (eerie music)
 - We're tags, we have air tags in the news.
 - Yeah, just a quick little thing on air tag.
 - I just changed the battery on an air tag.
 - That's why we're so attuned to air tags.
 - That's right, the battery's actually dying.
 - Yeah, so Bloomberg says that a new air tag
 is coming out next year and it's gonna be the air tag two,
 currently code named Model B 589 and it will have
 better range, improved wireless chip and improved privacy
 because apparently people have been using air tags
 to stalk people.
 So they're gonna interfere with your ability to stalk
 and make it so that it's easier for you to find.
 - Oh, you like air tags, right?
 - I am dependent on air tags.
 My purse has only been lost when the air tag battery
 died for the last couple of years.
 I'm happy to say.
 - And how often did you find you actually lost your purse?
 - Well, how often do I use my air tag?
 I said, at least once a day.
 - What's that take?
 - Yeah, I think so.
 Well, it's not my whole purse, it's really my wallet,
 which could be in a pocket or it could be on a desk
 or it could be in the car.
 - What I have noticed, especially with females,
 is that because they don't have pockets,
 they don't have as easy access to things like wallets.
 - Yeah, no, it really helps to have a tracker
 where you can get a little beep to help you.
 - Yeah, see where you put it down.
 - Yeah, 'cause sometimes you look right at it
 and you don't see it.
 - Yeah, I know it's like a negative hallucination.
 - Yeah.
 - You're not seeing what's there.
 - Right, so it helps to have the map,
 the tracker and the visual sighting.
 Those three things together mean it's never lost.
 - All right, so besides air tags, how about radio,
 panel, panel radio, all--
 - Panel vision, you know,
 Gregor like that.
 - Panel radar.
 - Panel radar.
 - And this is not just Greg's radar.
 - No, no, panel radar.
 - Panel as in like panoramic.
 - Yeah, the idea is that the robots
 will have better eyeballs than we do
 because they'll pick up other frequencies.
 Well, let's look at panel radar as a new type of sense,
 for example.
 - Yeah, how do we teach robots to see?
 Robots don't have brains like we do.
 They can't translate those camera images
 into navigating their environment.
 They don't know what they're looking at.
 - And a vision is great, don't get me wrong.
 But there are certain things that vision
 can't deal very well with, like smoke screens or fog.
 - Sure, you can't see through fog.
 - Fire, fire.
 - Yeah. - Can't see through smoke.
 And yet we want the robots to go investigate
 these dangerous situations.
 And so we have to rely on other kinds of computer vision.
 - Yeah, LiDAR doesn't work either
 'cause that also is light-based.
 - That's light radar.
 - Smoke and fog can affect that.
 - Sure, so what does penetrate through the fog?
 - Radar, radar, we do have traditional radar.
 Can see through walls.
 And we do have sonar.
 We do have sonar out.
 - And just sound.
 - But when you use radar, it doesn't produce very good images.
 You're trying to convert radar signals into image.
 Not so great.
 However, sound waves and electrical fields,
 what sharks use for looking at things are alternatives.
 - Okay. - Yes.
 And radio waves have longer wavelengths.
 Radio waves can easily go through fog.
 - Sure, they go through a lot of things.
 They don't go through cement so well.
 - And their way surpass our limitations of human vision.
 So a group of the University of Pennsylvania School
 of Engineering and Applied Science,
 or Pan Engineering as they call,
 created this new type of vision system called Pano Radar.
 And it allows our machines to perceive their surroundings
 in three dimensions with credible detail
 by transmogrifying simple radio waves
 into detailed 3D images from radio waves to images.
 I guess it's like a form of sonar
 that's turned into visual information
 instead of sound waves as radio waves.
 - Right.
 - Bouncing radio waves.
 - I'm trying to think there was a movie
 that had this kind of cave mapping technology
 and they had a little drone go through the cave
 and it sent out a red beam
 and then that red beam allowed it to draw
 a picture of the cave.
 So that's kind of what they're talking about here
 but instead of doing it with an infrared beam
 or something, they're doing it with a radio wave.
 - Yeah, right.
 Right, doing it with a radio wave
 and a radio wave can be created an image.
 - So the robot is basically sending out a radio wave
 and getting a feedback from the environment
 what the shape of the environment is
 and then using that information
 to construct a virtual simulation of the environment.
 - It's like a radio wave.
 - That the robot can then navigate.
 - It's a radio wave radar system
 that turns the information into a visual model
 and I guess it depends on how fast it can do it
 and how accurate it is and how easy it is to do it
 as to whether or not this can come.
 - Otherwise that robot is gonna miss the dish
 while it's trying to get it
 and it's gonna, you know,
 that heavy metal hand is gonna crack your crystal.
 - Yeah, well, one of the ways in which they are able
 to learn environments is that if you wanted to learn,
 say the inside of your house really well,
 there are repetitive, consistent patterns and geometries
 that we'll constantly run into
 and it memorizes those so that you don't have to constantly
 resee the obvious stuff all the time
 or reinterpret the data.
 So you can focus on the new data
 that may be entering into your space.
 - Oh, okay, so that's one of the things
 for robotic perception is first time you walk through,
 you do a first pass map and then second time you pass
 through you can start mapping objects that have changed
 and compare it to your first time through.
 - Yeah, yeah, that makes sense?
 - Sure, so they're doing AI learning
 plus this panoramic mapping.
 - It's a game changer, I tell you.
 - All right, so--
 - How can they make that kind of supervision useful
 to us directly?
 That's what I wonder, can we put that into our new glasses?
 XR glasses.
 - You want your glasses to tell you what the environment
 looks like so you don't have to use your eyeballs?
 - Yes, I would like to have a panel radar vision mode.
 Yes, I would.
 - Don't step there.
 I would always use it, but I would like to have it
 as an option.
 Turn on panel radar vision.
 - I don't know, Al.
 I think you're downgrading your system.
 I think you already have a system that does better.
 - No, it's an and is near, Mrs. Future.
 It's not either or--
 - All right, well, this research that we're talking about
 panoraynor, panoraynor, you can go online
 to the moby.com conference, which is 2024 International
 Conference on Mobile Computing
 and Networking in Washington, D.C., is this week.
 And if you go to DrFuturShow.com and look at today's links,
 you can see the robot superhuman vision link
 and get the link to Mobycom.
 - Okay, let's go.
 - Yeah, how's the live rocket?
 What's happening with the live rocket?
 - 27 knots.
 Sure, if that had anything to do with the aborted catch attempt.
 - What?
 - But it is something to note.
 - What's aborted?
 I thought it was a go for catch.
 We're estimating more like 24 miles, by the way,
 of the booster location based on where
 the helicopter is circling.
 So we're kind of looking at this flight radar.
 - I guess we need to catch up a little, huh?
 - Yeah.
 - This time, rather than attempting to catch
 the super heavy booster, SpaceX opted for a controlled
 vertical landing in the Gulf of Mexico.
 - If the planes are out of there, it might mean
 that we're gonna see this thing go kaboom
 and it might be quite spectacular because they will actually
 have to trigger flight termination system to do that.
 - Oh, no.
 Let's keep all eyes on that.
 I'm gonna just try to not look away too much.
 I'm gonna try not looking away too much.
 I have to.
 - Whoa, so what are we missing here, Al?
 - I'm trying to figure it out.
 - I was like something sinking in the ocean.
 - It's like a 20 minutes ago.
 - It looks like the booster is floating in the ocean
 and about to blow up.
 It's on fire.
 (explosion)
 It's bursting into flames.
 Exploded.
 It exploded.
 - It launched, but it didn't catch the booster.
 - No megazilla today, huh?
 - Last.
 They opted for a water landing.
 The booster rocket separated, is planned,
 and splashed vertically into the Gulf of Mexico.
 - The SpaceX stream cuts away as the booster
 peacefully tips over.
 There are other camera angles out there that showed it
 erupting into flames just seconds later,
 but that's to be expected with a bunch of rocket fuel
 sloshing around and flammable gases
 and very hot engines.
 Fire is inevitable at that point.
 - The big test today was to reignite some of the rockets
 in the ship, and once the ship was launched,
 they were getting feedback about being able to launch
 the next set of rockets to control the ship navigation,
 the trajectory and all that.
 I guess they weren't so concerned about catching the booster
 as they were about keeping an eye on the ship
 and maybe something was not what they expected,
 so they figured they'd focus on the ship
 instead of the booster.
 - Yeah.
 - Meanwhile, these Starship spacecraft
 equipped with pre-flight modifications
 successfully relit its engine in space.
 Endured a harsh reentry process despite the removal
 of some heat shield tiles and executed a controlled
 vertical landing with improved intactness
 compared to previous attempts.
 - Well, Schmidt, my mama.
 (tense music)
 - We mentioned earlier how the Australian police
 are training AI to analyze body-worn camera footage,
 and they're trying to find out how they can use
 this body-worn camera as an attempt
 to put in public trust and accountability.
 (gentle music)
 - Okay.
 But no one's quite figured out exactly how to analyze
 the data super well just yet.
 - Well, most of the places that started out
 decided to stop using it because of their concerns
 for privacy violation.
 And what that means is that they were hanging on
 to all of this body cam data from the cops.
 95% of it was just held and never viewed
 and never reused.
 - And maybe it doesn't need it to be.
 Maybe you just need it for when there's confusion.
 - When you're trying to figure out who done it.
 - Well, the only case that they cited in this article
 where they've actually used the police body cam
 was in the case of an officer who's being tried
 for tasering an 83 year old woman.
 (tapping)
 Ouch!
 - Now you go, you see where you want to look at exactly
 what the situations were when these things happened.
 So that makes sense.
 - And the idea is that these body cams
 are supposed to make cops more accountable.
 But as we know, if you don't have access to the footage,
 it's hard to know how to make it useful.
 And if you do have access to the footage,
 it's hard to know you're not violating someone's privacy.
 So those two issues are discussed rather poorly
 in this article actually.
 - Yeah, they don't really know a lot of detail.
 - This is a classic article that seems like
 it was written by an AI and then edited by somebody
 who took out anything that was interesting or questionable
 and just left us with this long barrage of words
 that doesn't really say anything that interesting.
 - Well, we feel me dick-y.
 Just sort of uses headlines to get your attention.
 - All right, well, then I won't.
 - Now that we've told you this is extremely
 a grithless article, I'm not gonna say anything more.
 (laughing)
 Thank you, Mrs. Future, for really boosting this whole--
 - Of this article.
 - Yeah, thank you. - Just click bait.
 - Okay, all right.
 Well, I just wanted to say one thing before we leave.
 - Okay.
 - That the data analytics that are from police cams
 could be used for pre-crime.
 (tapping)
 - As the privacy violation.
 - Yes, they could predict which people
 are also at risk of committing a crime.
 - Wow, wow, wow.
 - As it's scanning people and taking facial recognition
 shots of everyone, it'll know who's likely
 to be the most criminal at that point.
 - Whoa.
 - That's the thing, it can be used for this, there's things.
 And probably will, because look,
 we use our natural senses already that way.
 If a police officer's at a scene
 and he recognizes criminals when he sees them,
 'cause they do, right, you get to recognize
 certain behaviors and patterns, you're gonna act on them.
 Now, if you even have more of a hybrid sense of awareness,
 you're going to use it.
 - Yeah, this comes down to the principle of
 are you innocent until proven guilty,
 or do the police have a right to assume you're guilty
 and then find something to pin on you?
 - Well, look, if you're a police officer
 and you have a sixth sense of thinking
 that this is a criminal before you,
 what are you actually going to do?
 You're not going to arrest them initially,
 but you will most likely be a little guarded
 in your response to them,
 and you'll be watching them with a worry eye.
 So I think that is the appropriate response
 to dealing with potential criminal behavior.
 If you see the potential of it,
 you're not gonna act on it until something actually happens,
 but you'll be prepared for that
 if such an actuality does happen.
 - Well, it's interesting that your spin on it
 is a little different than the way I read the article.
 - Yes. - The article made the point that
 the AIs at the use of this data
 in the Australian Police Department
 was to target more criminals in the indigenous population.
 And so the fact that perhaps more criminals
 exist in the indigenous population led to that bias,
 but it also seemed like the people who were being
 imposed upon were the indigenous people
 and the police were finding more crime to charge them with,
 and they weren't finding that crime in other populations.
 - Yeah, yeah, well, it's like--
 - You know, it's a problem--
 - Everybody's a nail, and they have this hammer.
 - Yeah, and there's also the issue of type casting,
 which you want to avoid,
 and it's certainly fraught with error.
 And there are problems, but I'm looking at
 pragmatically where it's likely to go,
 and as an assistant to somebody who really recognizes
 behavior patterns and helps them further refine their skills.
 - I am here for you, my human.
 - This will come down to predictive technology
 based in the ARXR glasses
 that the police will be wearing.
 I think that's the direction.
 So in a sense, I'm not talking about necessarily
 what that article was talking about,
 I'm riffing off of it in terms of where it's taking us.
 - Well, in Scenic Cruz, our police department here
 feel really good about how much predictive policing
 has helped them handle the issues of crime in the neighborhood
 because they're understaffed,
 and the population of police, of good police,
 is getting older, and it's hard to find new young people
 that are experienced, and so every tool that they can have
 that helps them avoid criminals,
 or avoid crime is helpful.
 - Absolutely, it's great that we can go beyond this, too,
 and actually be useful.
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 It's about a 1932 Ford Roadster with a rat driving it.
 Thank you, Greg.
 We have thought about these things before
 and now they're a reality.
 And I got a note from Irene Lambert in Democrats Oversese
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 in the Constitution and that the US still lacks
 guaranteed equal rights under the Constitution for women
 but with only weeks remaining,
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 and gender equality and abortions access
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 and paste it and send it to President Biden.
 So I got a note that we'll put that on a links page for that.
 It's about fully ratifying what's known
 as the 28th Amendment now.
 Now we'll buy this still in power.
 You need to do that soon because without that,
 women won't have equal rights.
 - No!
 - No!
 (machine whirring)
 - Did you ever see Get Smart and you had that special gadget,
 the cone of silence?
 - The cone of silence, yeah.
 - You would put over the top of you
 and whoever you're talking to
 and no one else could hear what you're saying.
 - Can you hear me?
 - Well, it kind of reminds me a little bit of that.
 This is new AI headphones that put a sound bubble around you.
 - Okay, kind of did that.
 - The idea is that it uses noise cancellation
 in a more spatialized way.
 It'll dampen the ambient chatter that's in the background.
 So if you're just talking to someone that's close to you,
 the background noise will be cut out.
 I guess that would be particularly helpful
 with a crowded restaurant
 and you really wanted to hear the people out of your table
 around you and you wanted to cut out
 the ambient background noise.
 And this is an opportunity where you might be able to do that
 where the background noise is interfering
 with your capacities to understand those you wish to share
 your moment with.
 This new AI system, the headphone,
 allows you to speak with a programmable radius
 of three to six feet.
 So you can move your dome bubble up to six feet away.
 And voices and sound outside of the bubble
 will be quieted with, they say,
 an average of 49 decibels.
 That's big.
 Quantitatively, it's the difference
 between a vacuum cleaner running and rustling leaves.
 Huge.
 So that will help a lot in terms of reducing the decibels
 of sounds outside of your bubble.
 Now the researchers who are doing this
 are creating a startup to commercialize this technology.
 They're looking for third party people to play with
 to work with this.
 They say that humans aren't great at perceiving distances
 through sound, particularly when there are multiple sound
 sources.
 Our ability is to focus on the people in our vicinity
 are limited because of these background sounds
 like loud restaurants.
 So creating sound bubbles has not really been possible
 until we've had these new AI system that can actually
 learn the distance of each sound in a room
 and process that in real time.
 They say eight milliseconds on the hearing device itself.
 Interesting.
 Yeah.
 Now these are academics.
 The data that have done this, the University of Washington,
 Professor Shiam Galakota, who's a professor in the Paul Allen
 School of Computer Science and Engineering.
 And did you already mention the fact
 that their prototype was where they put six small microphones
 across the headband to evaluate where the sounds in the room
 were coming from?
 So that they can cancel them?
 Yeah.
 Wow.
 Interesting.
 Yeah.
 I guess they could also isolate them and record them.
 Should you play them back somehow?
 Later.
 Like if you have a--
 Do an inverse sound?
 Noisy.
 Yeah.
 If you're a proper spy, you don't want to get caught.
 Ace on recording people's conversations.
 So you record the whole thing and then separate it out later.
 Seems like they would do that too.
 Right.
 But for consumer use, you would just
 want to hear the people around you and focus on--
 or if it's a particular person across the room
 you want to listen to, just that person.
 But it sounds to me like three to six feet.
 A diameter is really where you want to go with this initially.
 They have the research appears in a natured electronics.
 And there are co-authors from the University of Washington,
 Microsoft, and a company called Assembly AI.
 Uh-huh.
 Yeah.
 Sounds like it's using beam focusing.
 Beam focusing?
 That's what these new Wi-Fi routers,
 like Wi-Fi, 6.E, and 7.
 They use beam focusing so that when you walk through a room,
 the antennas-- you have more than three antennas,
 and you have multiple beams, and then they kind of focus the beam
 as you travel around a room.
 This way they're focusing the sound,
 and that's why they got six microphones.
 It's like having six antennas.
 Well, that was just the prototype.
 Apparently, they use that to then generalize
 what principles they needed to pay attention to.
 And now, what they've got are different soundscapes
 that are programmed by an AI to identify, well, which kind
 of room are we in?
 Is this a crowded room? Is this a outdoor space?
 They've got some particular signature soundscapes,
 and then they compare that noise signature
 with their sound source, which is whatever is this--
 what is the loudest thing?
 What is the closest thing?
 So they're figuring out from the sound signature,
 which sounds are close, and then the amplifying voices,
 which are particular frequencies within that soundscape.
 So they're really just having a whole,
 robitized analysis of what the sound is,
 so that they can lift certain things out of it
 and diminish others.
 People that are blind, they have a super sense of sound, right?
 And they can walk in a room, and they
 can hear the echoes of the wall.
 And so they know where the walls are,
 and different kinds of things like that.
 So AI is perfect at picking up or being
 trained the way blind people are trained to reevaluate them.
 Well, I tell you, it would be really helpful,
 especially blind seniors.
 And I often spoke to my mother about noisy restaurants
 as being real bane of their existence.
 Much as it's fun to be at a restaurant, not to hear anybody,
 is no fun.
 So this would make all the difference.
 Yes.
 Well, also, it's interesting how they compare this system
 with Apple's AirPods Pro 2, because they also
 can amplify the voice of the person in front of you
 while reducing background sound.
 But with the AirPods, they work by tracking your head position
 and amplifying the sound coming from a specific direction
 rather than gauging distance.
 And this means the headphones can't amplify
 multiple speakers at once.
 And they lose functionality if you turn your head away
 from your target speaker.
 And they aren't as effective at reducing loud noises,
 loud noises that may be also coming from your speaker's
 direction, like from behind them or something.
 I would think that Apple would actually
 have a walkie-talkie system with their AirPods,
 where they could actually lock on the same Bluetooth channel.
 And you're listening as a group.
 And so if you just--
 Like those disco headphones?
 Yes, exactly.
 Well, if you're ever a group of folks that
 are all wearing compatible technology, then--
 I think of it.
 Why bother to get together?
 Yeah.
 Well, some more beat headphones, yeah.
 Yeah.
 Yeah, beat it.
 Something that doesn't interfere with the eating.
 You want to be able to still eat.
 Since when do headphones interfere with your ability to eat?
 Well, microphones stuck in front of your mouth.
 Do wear headphones in a weird way?
 No, microphone in front of your mouth.
 You can get to the way.
 I was imagining you putting your headphones
 instead of East West, like North South Earth.
 It kind of reminds me of one of the first wild ideas
 I heard for the use of the internet was for virtual restaurants,
 where you go to this restaurant and you sit down
 and you have a 3D screen in front of you
 for the other half of your table.
 And that's where your virtual dinner guests--
 and they can be located in a restaurant somewhere else.
 And they're also eating.
 And you are essentially sharing a meal together virtually.
 But you're sitting at a real table
 and you're eating real food.
 I can see how it could interrupt your ability to eat.
 Yeah, the idea was to-- well, how can you
 create this experience without having to wear anything?
 Because nobody wants to wear headphones and microphones
 while you're hanging out with a friend at a dinner party
 or a group of people.
 Yeah, so--
 how best to do that, for real, how to have a virtual dinner
 party is still yet to happen in any pregnant.
 I'm sure there's been a number of experiments.
 But I'd like to see that really work.
 How can we have a really decent family gathering where
 half the people aren't there for their remote?
 Yeah, bring your own dinner.
 Yeah, they're all--
 it's a merging of maybe several dinner parties into one
 in a nice way.
 Bring your own straw.
 Yeah, maybe it's a slurpee party.
 Oh, thank you, Greg.
 You sent a very nice picture of another animal.
 I want a segue.
 Yeah, yeah, nice.
 Nice.
 Man, we're wearing a helmet even.
 Little mouse helmet.
 Yeah, that's very doable.
 I see how a mouse could do it a little tiny segue.
 Yeah.
 Hilarious.
 Yeah, they go and raid the neighbors and come back.
 Perfect.
 Of course, they need a backpack to carry the stuff.
 Yeah, a lot of funny stories to this week, huh?
 Yeah, yeah.
 You really had quite a jaunt to the internet this week.
 Well, there was another thing.
 Are you afraid of needles?
 You have afraid of needles?
 I thought a lot of people might be afraid of needles.
 This is a great article.
 Right.
 And so there's a new approach of sucking--
 I gave it away.
 I'm getting the blood out of your system without a needle.
 Sucking it.
 Well, that kind of works.
 But we're talking technology, my dear.
 Instead of needles.
 A technology for people with phobia of needles.
 Say goodbye to your phobias or needles.
 We don't need to do these needles anymore if this becomes
 real.
 And what are we turning in needles for?
 What do we have instead?
 Well, it's kind of an artificial leech.
 Oh, a leech.
 That looks like a worm.
 Do you have this new leech technology?
 It will draw blood samples by employing micro needles.
 And a suction cup will replace the needle.
 This is like a miniature worm from Dune.
 You're going to trade in your fear of needles for a worm
 that's going to bite you.
 No.
 Like a little tiny teeth.
 No, no.
 He's got lots of little micro-doot teeth inside.
 And they just connect into your fingertip
 and start sucking.
 It's much safer.
 Yes, sir.
 It's actually a brilliant concept.
 Micro needles and a suction cup instead of a large needle.
 And this suction cup is about, geez, maybe a quarter of a
 centimeter.
 It's very tiny.
 And then the suction cup has, apparently, it doesn't show the
 picture, but they describe that it has stainless steel teeth
 that pierce your skin and inhale the blood into using this
 little suction.
 So imagine that little plastic bubble that you can use for your
 nose or they have a different one you can use for your ear.
 And so you squeeze the bubble and it put it in your ear and then
 release and the pressure sucks things out.
 Yeah, OK.
 So this is what's happening now with a little worm-like tube that
 has a tiny little mouth that you put on your finger.
 And it pierces your skin and then sucks the blood out.
 Would you try it?
 You would try it, right?
 I guess so.
 If I needed to extract some blood, it seems...
 Well, they say it's safer than a needle because you can't
 accidentally insert it too deep.
 Yeah.
 Oh, that's good.
 That's good.
 I don't want to have a too deep a needle.
 Yeah.
 Yeah.
 I can take blood.
 I wonder if it also can put stuff into your system, too.
 Apparently.
 Why not?
 Once the hole is open.
 Yeah.
 That's what mosquitoes do.
 It's kind of like a beach instead of a mosquito.
 Flying hyperdermeneedles mosquitoes.
 All right.
 Listen, we're almost out of time here.
 We got about 30 seconds left.
 Thanks for listening, folks.
 Really appreciate your attention.
 It's been fun, Starling.
 But not with some of our techie weirdness.
 Glad you're having a good lunch.
 And thank you, Bobby, for being here.
 Glad you're here.
 Your input.
 Watch.
 It's coming down right now.
 Oh, it's coming down.
 OK, let's go watch.
 Keep watching the Starship and Mars.
 Here we come.
 All right.
 Thanks, everybody.
 Have a great future now.
 All right.
 Great week.
 Enjoy the rain.
 Bye for now.
 Bye.
 See you.
 Or vuah.
 3 p.m.
 Now you know what time it is.
 There we go.
 OK, we're off.