69 Future Now Podcast - Apple WWDC 2024 Announcements, AI Steve runs for Office, Newly Discovered Alter-Magnetism, Gravity without Mass,  

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 And here we are coming on from Boulder Creek, California
 with myself and Mrs. Future, AKA Sun.
 Howdy.
 And Bobby just joined us in from San Francisco.
 Oh, we have Michael and Jaya here.
 They spent the night and they're heading up north to--
 - Halleyes.
 - Halleyes, please.
 - Yeah, oh, wonderful.
 Okay, it's got company, excellent.
 And today's a big Apple announcements.
 From yesterday's big announcements,
 we're gonna look at them a little bit today.
 We're gonna kick 'em around with Taylor Barcroft,
 our Apple analyst in Santa Cruz.
 Taylor, welcome to the show.
 - Thank you.
 - All right, it looks like you're in some kind
 of tropical paradise, but then that's the nature
 of virtual experiences.
 - Yeah, it's assumed virtual background.
 - Not bad.
 - That's great, Taylor.
 You look great there on the beach.
 - Yeah, yeah, where you belong?
 I wouldn't mind being there myself.
 Well, since--
 - Is that better?
 - Well, it depends on if you like bald heads, I guess.
 Co-Jack comes to mind.
 - Fresh shave.
 - Very nice.
 So I gather both of you have been tracking pretty heavily
 what happened yesterday with Apple.
 I think we're gonna get into it a little bit early
 because there's a lot of material to cover
 and it's very interesting how they have introduced some.
 Finally, they've gotten into the AI bandwagon.
 - Apple intelligence.
 - Yeah, what makes it Apple intelligence?
 - The A, the A and artificial makes it Apple.
 - I say so it's now it's Apple artificial intelligence.
 A AI.
 - No, it's Apple intelligence is no artificial.
 - That's gone, huh?
 - Yeah, that's the rebranding.
 - That's yesterday.
 Now it's totally Apple intelligence
 is the way they're going.
 - Okay.
 - Forget about the word artificial.
 - Yeah, right.
 - Apple probably never used it.
 - If you never use anything except Apple products,
 I guess maybe that could be the case.
 But somehow I--
 - Well, the idea is that everybody will want to use
 on the Apple products, that's moving forward.
 - Well, you know, I've already heard some fallout
 about Apple intelligence from Elon Musk.
 Did you see that?
 - Oh, really?
 In a positive way or a negative?
 - No, no, he is very upset about it,
 about the whole thing and he's warned that--
 - He's upset that Apple's using the word Apple intelligence
 instead of--
 - No, no, no, something more.
 He's worried that if Apple integrates open AI's products
 such as chat GPT on a operating system level,
 then he would require all of his employees
 to leave their iPhones at the door
 when they're going to work at a Tesla.
 - Well, that'll go over real big.
 - Or SpaceX.
 - That'll make them even more popular.
 - He says they got to leave them in a Faraday cage
 at the door.
 (laughing)
 - Does everybody know what a Faraday cage is?
 - Yeah, it's kind of like your microwave oven.
 It'll cut it off from outside radiation.
 - Let's assume our audience knows about Faraday cages.
 - Yeah, yeah, they're kind of geeky.
 It's where if you want to cut yourself off
 from electromagnetic radiation,
 you put a Faraday cage over your head
 or step inside a large Faraday cage.
 - So let's just talk about what he means
 that it would be a security violation.
 That's what he's saying.
 And if you just take what they announced
 about the AI yesterday and what Apple stands behind
 as their privacy policy,
 they basically said that they're going to encrypt
 all of your requests to the AI on your phone
 and your identity and your URL.
 Everything that identifies your device
 is going to be encrypted at your phone.
 And then from your phone,
 Siri is going to handle going to an Apple server
 to keep your data safe
 and then give it back to your phone.
 - Like you get the oil de-lines, oversee your scheme, right?
 The e-line can no longer spy on his employees.
 Is that the idea?
 - No, no, it's absolutely the,
 you have it exactly backwards.
 The only server that gets the information is at Apple.
 That's the problem.
 So e-line, like anybody inside of X
 could use their iPhone and send whatever information they want
 from their iPhone to the Apple cloud
 and then get it back
 and there would not be a traceable record of it.
 So Apple basically says,
 don't trust anybody else, just trust us.
 And that's pretty much how they want it.
 - I believe that.
 I'm of a religion of Apple, yeah.
 - But I just wanted to point out that.
 - That's why you're here, but.
 - e-line, his whole identity right now
 is that he is openly opposed to open AI
 because he feels that they are guilty
 of different kinds of ethical violations
 and he actually asked some of the AI programmers
 to step down and join him in a new AI company
 so that they would not be participating
 in the open AI model.
 And now Apple is partnering with open AI
 and with Google as their AIs.
 So it's really a boys club race
 between which AI is going to serve the public.
 And e-line is saying, well, if Apple's going with open AI
 and if Apple's going with Google AI,
 those two AIs are compromised.
 His attitude is that those are the AIs
 that try to control the narrative
 and don't give the people the power.
 And you're not gonna hear that in the news
 because they spin it and they don't understand it,
 but that's really what's going on here is like,
 which club of AI developers is going to win the race?
 - Well, Mrs. Future obviously is in the XAI club.
 - Well, I am just in the knowing what's going on club.
 - Yeah, same thing.
 - Well, you're, that's fantastic son.
 Your ability to understand what's going on is incredible.
 I have no clue what you're talking about.
 - Thanks Taylor.
 - I have no longer yet,
 - I'm just an Apple fan boy.
 - Yeah, well, okay, well Bobby understands,
 Bobby understands all right?
 - Yes, Bobby understands, Bobby takeover.
 - It's true.
 The big problem is who's bigger AI is gonna win?
 And do you trust the people that are putting the restraints,
 if any, at chat GBT, the people there at OpenAI?
 And of all the people that should understand this better
 is one of the co-founders of OpenAI,
 which is Elon Musk.
 You know, he knows what the original mission goal was
 is to make sure that AI is benefiting humanity
 and not benefiting a certain corporation.
 - The stockholders.
 - Yes, stockholders.
 - Which, there's so much money to be made that.
 - I do believe that personal privacy is necessary
 for AI to serve humanity.
 And until the internet is free of forced control
 of the narrative, we can't really trust the big players
 that are offering us their services.
 We're building our homes in walled gardens
 that are not controlled by us.
 - Elon also asks you to think,
 and he says, don't you think that it's patently absurd
 that Apple isn't smart enough to make their own AI,
 yet is somehow capable of ensuring that OpenAI
 will protect your security and privacy?
 Why isn't Apple just going with their own AI?
 Why are they trying to connect in with chat GBT?
 - And why are they connecting with Sam Altman?
 - 'Cause they don't wanna reinvent the wheel.
 - But the point is they're partnering with Sam Altman,
 who is the Y Combinator guy.
 He's kind of like Steve Jobs.
 He's the marketer of the technology.
 He may have an understanding of it,
 but he's at a point in his career
 where he wants to profit from it
 and bring those profits into private hands.
 And this is a real question going on right now.
 We have a society where we're turning the corporations
 into our leaders and they're immortal
 because we're giving them the status of humans.
 - And nothing new.
 - No, it is new.
 It is new.
 Our laws right now are treating corporations
 that never die in the same way that they're treating people.
 - That's not new.
 That's an old law.
 Goes way back.
 - It goes back to the Obama administration.
 But the point that I'm trying to make
 is that the AIs are now coming of age
 where we are giving them more and more
 of the control of our daily lives as humans.
 And we are in a process of treating humans
 as second class citizens to AIs.
 And we're going to have to become cognizant of that
 as we entrust the apples and googles
 and exes of the world with our personal information.
 We have to understand that unless they are actually
 committing to keeping humanity as the sacred reason
 for holding power the way it is,
 they will deviate and stop honoring humanity.
 And because they're immortal,
 they will have more power than any generation of humans.
 And we really have to understand
 that this is what we're creating as a human society.
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 - And there you have it.
 The bell rings and everyone leaves the classroom.
 (laughing)
 - Yeah.
 - It's too complicated.
 I'm just going to stick with the Apple.
 - I don't understand that you.
 - Well, I'm not very articulate, but I think it's important.
 - No, you're very articulate.
 You're totally articulate.
 - It's just not where he's tracking.
 Since we have Taylor on, we should get his stuff first
 then he can not worry about these more
 highbrow conversations and listen.
 - Oh yeah, I'm going to be cut out of the conversation
 'cause it's too strong.
 - Yeah, yeah, you're like,
 the guy doesn't know anything that dominates the conversation.
 You know, it's, you know, you're funny,
 but at a certain point.
 - I'm an Apple fan boy.
 I just wanted to give you a list of parts
 that move faster than the other parts
 we were using last year.
 - Yeah, so what points are you in the last year Taylor?
 - Yeah, back to headline of the whole event
 was no new hardware.
 - Yeah, okay.
 - That was a big online.
 - And Apple got an M2 Max studio
 that's going to still be the latest Max studio
 another year from now.
 - I love the way that your camera angle
 is just your mouth right now.
 Like we can't see the rest of your face.
 - I'm working on it.
 I'm working on it.
 There you go.
 (laughing)
 - It's very appropriate.
 (laughing)
 - With half a glass.
 - Yeah, yeah.
 - So no new hardware.
 What about the M?
 I thought there was a 15 inch MacBook Air coming out.
 - No, that's just came out.
 The M3 MacBook Air 15 inch.
 - So I thought.
 - 13 inch to the both M3's.
 - They're brand new.
 - So they're not current?
 - No.
 - They're current according to what's for sale,
 but they're not current according to what processor
 is going to rain in the next--
 - Yeah, and that was the other big takeaway
 that I got from you last time
 was that the M4 is really the way to go.
 If you're waiting for the next--
 - Yeah, last time we said, okay,
 there's going to be an M4--
 - M4 processor.
 - The X and M4 Ultra is next studio now.
 And we said there was going to be an M4
 or an M4 Pro Mac Mini now, and there's not.
 We'll be lucky to get a new Mac Mini by December.
 Maybe January even.
 - Okay, well, that's interesting.
 - The next hardware is not going to be till October.
 - So in September for the A18 Pro iPhone 16 Pro--
 - Right.
 - Pro and Pro Mac.
 - That's always the new hardware is the iPhones.
 - And the new Watch 10 with running Watch OS 11,
 which I'm sad to say, Al was not able to upgrade his--
 - No, I'm stuck.
 My series 4 phone has now reached an evolutionary dead end.
 - Watch OS 10.
 - Uh-huh.
 - And I got the series 6, and that's the oldest series
 that you can have that will take--
 - The Dix upgrades.
 - Yeah, okay.
 - Watch OS 11.
 - Series 6 and newer phone.
 - That's a good takeaway.
 - There's good stuff in the Watch OS 11.
 There's a new Vitals app that makes it very exciting
 for recording more activity than before.
 - Okay, how about the Mac OS?
 - Mac OS Sequoia SQU-O-I-A, I think is how you spell it.
 They're saying it's the most difficult operating system
 named to ever be given to an operating system Sequoia.
 Look it up in the dictionary or something like that.
 The tallest anyway.
 - It's 15.
 And I've got it working on my Mac.
 I got it on my M2 Pro Mac Mini,
 which is the most advanced Mac Mini you're gonna be able
 to get for another nine months or whatever.
 - So I'm glad it works.
 - I feel like I'm pregnant with the next Mac Mini
 that's not gonna come out until January.
 - So you got the beta version and it's working great.
 - It was crashing repeatedly, didn't it, until now?
 - Until this conversation, huh?
 Okay, well that's good.
 I'm glad that it's finally working.
 - Yeah, so you can put the betas if you have
 but remember everybody that you can be an Apple developer
 without giving them any money,
 you can just register as an Apple developer
 and be able to use the beta version.
 So iOS 18, I had it.
 - That's what you do, right?
 You get all the latest stuff for free.
 - What was all happened in Mac Sequoia?
 Yeah, well, I'm always about free.
 And so is everybody else.
 There's gonna be a public beta to the general public in July
 if you don't wanna bother trying to register as a developer.
 - Yeah, if you just wait to July, it's not a lot.
 But the original beta is working just fine
 after it got through all those crashes.
 I don't know what they were about.
 - Yeah, just for the fun initiated,
 Taylor's been on for the last hour with us,
 sustaining crashes of his system until now.
 So we are--
 - And I still haven't got the microphone working the way
 I wanted to, we had it working last night on FaceTime
 but on the Zoom, not so lucky.
 So I'm using the microphone that's attached to the camera.
 I hope it sounds okay.
 - Yeah, sounds good, sounds good, you're good.
 - Okay, Bob, you got a lot more to talk about this, right?
 The Apple intelligence?
 - Well, we're gonna go into that for sure,
 but I just wanted to get the stuff that you can talk about.
 - Okay, well you can put your iPhone virtually on your Mac
 and you can run it.
 You can run the phone on your Mac
 while the phone is over asleep.
 - Okay, so you see the phone show up on a screen
 on your Mac?
 - Yeah, and you can run it with your mouse
 or your trackpad and your--
 - Open up apps closing like your phone is there.
 - Exactly, everything that will run on the phone
 runs on the virtual phone on the Mac.
 So you can leave your phone plugged in in the bedroom
 and just operate everything,
 including your phone from your desktop.
 - Yeah, yeah, I'm not that I'd wanna do it,
 but some people wanna do that stuff.
 - Yeah, yeah.
 - If you watch Max Tech, it may add Max T-E-C-H,
 that's two words, that's the YouTube channel.
 They have a daily feed every morning at seven o'clock
 from Spooky in Washington.
 Max and his brother, they give it to the top 10
 of greatest new things.
 - Hey listen, I'm a big photography kind of guy,
 and I use the camera app all the time on the iPhone.
 It's one of my favorite apps.
 - Yeah, biggest changes to photos.
 Photos of the app is majorly upgraded in the iOS 18.
 - Do we have better facial recognition or what?
 - Better auto creating, using artificial intelligence
 to create customized movies.
 - How do you mean editing?
 - So it's from your stills and videos
 that are in your library.
 And you can just say what you want the video to be
 and the artificial intelligence in Siri will figure it out.
 - Oh, I understand that's got some--
 - Do it before you.
 - So there's a lot of stuff being done for you in iOS 18
 that you had to do by yourself before the press.
 - Okay, well for photos, it involves new navigation,
 new organizational features,
 and new ways to discover my favorite photos.
 And I'm just kind of curious.
 - Tell you reading it.
 - Yeah, I mean, I've got a list of the features here.
 So I want to know.
 - Watch the keynote everybody, it's only two hours long.
 So give yourself a break and watch the keynotes.
 - Okay, and that's at apple.com.
 - Yeah, apple.com, YouTube, the Apple channel on YouTube.
 You can probably Google Apple keynote, WWDC 24.
 - And it'll do it.
 - And it goes into pretty good depth
 about all the different operating systems
 and the features, not a lot.
 You have to poke around all kinds of different analysts
 to see more different angles about what's new.
 - I'm looking at some of the other things that affect us.
 Tap to cash, is it in addition to the ability
 to let you pay more easily by tapping two ear iPhones,
 tapping together a pair of iPhones?
 - Yeah, probably just like the way
 that you can exchange addresses now,
 you can give each other money.
 That's part of the thing that Apple Pay
 is you can send money to your friends.
 - Directly, phone to phone.
 - If they're in your contacts.
 - And of course, the big thing with the phone
 would be the new iOS for the phone, iOS 8.
 - Yeah, I got iOS 18 on my phone and it's--
 - Stable?
 - Just fine, yeah.
 For what I do, it's the same thing.
 There's a lot of visual things that you can change.
 You can, in the control panel,
 is much more customizable if you want to tweak
 around your control panel.
 And there's a lot of new widgets
 that you can put in the control panel.
 The app developers should all be doing widgets
 for their apps.
 The widgets that I wanted aren't available
 from the apps that I use.
 - Yeah, they have a special toolkit now for AI as well
 for Apple Intelligence.
 If you want to put Apple Intelligence in your app,
 I thought that's pretty interesting.
 - Oh yeah, oh, they're making a real evening.
 - You're making a real evening.
 - It's also down to all this stuff, yeah.
 - There's also a platform state of the union
 that's only an hour and six minutes long.
 You can also find up on Google,
 about on YouTube and Apple.com and so forth.
 - Okay, okay.
 - But that's certainly more for--
 There's also a new calculator.
 If you're a math nerd,
 you're gonna be crazy about the new calculator.
 It's built for nerds.
 If you're out of math nerd, you probably won't care.
 - If you have an Apple pencil with your iPad,
 you can-- - Yeah, the Pencil Pro, Pencil Pro.
 - No, no, no, no.
 I have an M1 iPad and I'm using the second pencil.
 - And I would have worked on that.
 - And I would have worked on that.
 - The new calculator is working on there.
 - Yeah, I just loaded it last night.
 It's amazing.
 You can do--
 - You're a math nerd.
 - No, you can't do it.
 - No, you can't do it.
 - No, you can't do it.
 - No, it's very, you can just do one plus one equals two
 and solve the equation and you just draw it on the screen.
 - You're right.
 No, it is fascinating if you adapt this stuff.
 - And then-- - I'm too old.
 - You can do it in the old-- - But then,
 but then you could do calculus or whatever.
 You can do quadratic equations.
 - I think I'm calculus.
 I was in the back of the room and I failed 100%.
 - But it can draw-- - I didn't understand what--
 - You can draw-- - Bobby was in the front
 of the room tailor, so--
 - Give him, he'd be quiet for a minute.
 And let him finish.
 Then we gotta go to commercial in 30 seconds.
 So-- - So it eats the calculator
 is the best app that they just introduced.
 Just the calculator alone.
 Initially I thought, oh, it's just a calculator.
 - You're talking about the iPad calculator, kids.
 - Yeah, okay.
 - So we got-- - Yeah, but it's also
 on your iPhone too.
 It's reintroduced-- - It's not the new one.
 - Yes, anyway, it does do AI.
 And not only-- - We got a potential
 on the phone then.
 - Okay, listen, we gotta go to break you guys.
 - Put a-- - Well, let's continue
 after the break. - Pencil.
 - What do you say? - Put a pencil
 in that moment and we'll be right back.
 All right, okay, this is future now.
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 - Okay, we are back.
 And I do think we should get to the meat of this thing
 as we were talking about the addition to the AI stuff.
 - They're conflicting ads.
 What was the deal with that?
 What's going on with the ads?
 They're selling drugs and then the next ads just get off drugs.
 - I guess it's a different advertiser.
 You know, it's a free market.
 (laughing)
 Probably one of the cannabis ads.
 Yeah.
 - Okay.
 - All right, I'm sorry.
 - Yeah, it's all right.
 That's all right.
 These things happen.
 We're gonna get into the AI shortly
 and not interrupt Bobby for a while.
 - Yeah.
 So back to the calculator.
 The calculator, they have something called math notes.
 And you just click on that math.
 And then you can just take your pencil,
 draw all these formulas,
 or just do simple things like, you know,
 kindergarten, first grade mathematics or whatever.
 And it solves the calculation.
 You don't have to type anything on the keyboard.
 You just draw it on the screen.
 And if you wanna do calculus or trigonometry,
 you can just write a formula, draw it on the screen,
 and it will graph the thing instantly.
 It's just amazing.
 - Wow.
 - Yeah.
 I wish I had this in high school.
 No, gosh, could have aced everything.
 - Like I said, math nerds.
 - Yeah.
 - That's right.
 And we all should understand math more.
 I mean, I think it's a failing of our system
 that mathematics has become so, quote, hard.
 It shouldn't be hard.
 It should be like a language, like English.
 - Yeah. And if you can just draw it out on the screen,
 or just scribble it on the screen, and it can draw it.
 You can see what the formula looks like instantly.
 Like, you know, we have to imagine that.
 - Wow, that would have been the difference.
 - Yeah.
 - In trigonometry, that would have made all the difference.
 If I could see what these formulas were graphed out,
 you know, you'd have to like to magically understand.
 - Yeah.
 - You could understand it if it did it,
 like it can do it right now on your iPad.
 You could understand it.
 - Yeah.
 - And perhaps if there's enough neuroplasticity left,
 you can try it later on in life.
 Maybe you can learn math now, Taylor.
 (laughing)
 - I was in math during when I was 14.
 - To 14.
 - Then algebra two hit, right?
 And how do you--
 - Algebra one, I got a medal.
 Notary school medal for algebra one.
 - Yeah, good.
 Good. And then algebra two.
 - 100% on the test.
 Perfect.
 And I did grand trigonometry too.
 And all the other stuff until I got into calculus.
 And then I got into our snow,
 no clue what he was talking about.
 Okay, that's the calculus boundary layer.
 That's true.
 (laughing)
 That usually was saved for the smart kids
 in high school and college at that point.
 - Oh my God.
 - Yeah, so most people don't understand calculus.
 - Anyways, it's great we had algebra.
 - Tring.
 - Yeah, and you have to know calculus to get an MBA.
 - Yeah, and calculus.
 - You have to get a school that calculus.
 - And now calculus can be yours.
 Now thanks to this calculator.
 (laughing)
 - That's right.
 - Yeah, you can own it.
 - Yeah, it's no longer a bit.
 See, that's the thing is that the education system
 is going personal with tools like this.
 You can learn all these things
 that were hard to do in the classroom.
 - That's not a tool.
 - No.
 - Doing it for you.
 - You can use it that way too,
 but it sounds to me like you can also use it
 for exploring deeper mathematics.
 And getting into how you can actually utilize math
 for solving problems,
 for creating new materials,
 metamaterial design, all kinds of stuff.
 - I'm all for it.
 - Okay.
 (laughing)
 - I can tell.
 (laughing)
 - Speak for the common man, will you?
 - I'm too old.
 - Yes.
 - 77, I'm over the hill now.
 - Well, that's pretty typical.
 (laughing)
 - But I am putting in the solar.
 - The solar?
 - No, I love it.
 I love the idea that Bobby's helped you
 with getting your battery.
 You have a giant battery that you can run your house on.
 - Yeah, I got the anchor's battery system.
 - Right.
 - Already hooked up, we've got the home power panel hooked up.
 I'm running the battery full time during peak hours.
 - So you don't have to pay PhD
 anytime for peak hours.
 - Right.
 - You're at two PM to eight PM, something like that?
 - No, it's from four PM to nine PM.
 - Four PM to nine PM.
 So you at four PM, you switch on your battery.
 - You switch on your battery.
 - You automatically switch is over to battery.
 - Run your house on the battery.
 - You can't get it on the other hand.
 - And then at nine o'clock it switches back over to PG&E.
 - Oh.
 - And recharges the battery in about two hours.
 - Oh, okay.
 - In next month we're gonna put solar panels in.
 On the next meeting in September,
 we're gonna talk about the solar panels
 on my house and how well they are.
 - Yeah, well there you go.
 Well, that's the direction setting in,
 self-sufficiency for energy.
 Decentralized energy down to the individual home.
 - Yeah, well I feel it's like my responsibility to go off grid.
 I feel like everybody that's old
 should make it their responsibility to go off grid.
 Doesn't matter about the economics.
 It matters about just getting yourself a set of batteries
 which are now really inexpensive.
 They're practically giving them away for $4,000 or $5,000.
 - Well, the argument that people have against that
 is that the batteries are not very eco,
 that they took a lot of energy
 and a lot of environmental destruction to make.
 Well.
 - Compared to who?
 - That's a good point.
 - What do you need is doing worse, a lot worse.
 - Yeah.
 Well PG&E has a giant battery near us,
 Moss Landing, not too far from Santa Cruz.
 And there's a giant huge battery there that's an experiment.
 They're looking at battery backup for the grid
 or battery instead of bringing on backup generators.
 They're gonna activate the battery, the giant battery.
 - You mean were those smokestacks?
 - Yeah, where the smokestacks are in Moss Landing.
 - What kind of battery are you talking about?
 - LG, LG. - LG.
 - LG. - LG.
 - They caught on fire, didn't they?
 - They've had a few fires.
 Yeah, but that's to be expected
 in this prototype giant battery.
 Basically the giant battery.
 - And they're not like a four,
 like a four won't get on fire.
 - The newer ones, so lithium iron phosphate
 supposed to be less flammable.
 - It better be non flammable
 'cause it's in my closet.
 - It probably is non flammable.
 Yeah, I think the phosphate is, I have one.
 Never had a problem with it.
 - Yeah, you can take, I mean,
 you saw those demonstrations where they take,
 they spike up one of those battery packs
 ago in your cell phone, right?
 And the thing starts to fizzle
 and then it starts catching on fire
 and it just smokes up.
 - Yeah.
 - That would never happen with both the
 theme iron phosphate.
 You can do the same thing with those battery packs
 and nothing happens.
 They never catch on fire.
 - That's great.
 I remember Zoe, she is one of the foremost
 drones FPV pilots in the country.
 She's like 30 years old and has been flying them
 for 10 years.
 - You had her on the show a couple years back.
 - Yeah, she's living setting up everywhere.
 - And the biggest test for these lithium ion batteries
 have been the drones 'cause she would fly these things
 and straight up and do barrel rolls
 and go under tunnels and through houses
 and just do crazy stuff with the drones.
 And when the drone finally came back,
 the battery would be really hot, super, super hot.
 The drone tech was pushing the batteries.
 - Those are pre-phosphate.
 - Yeah, yeah.
 Now, the problem with the phosphate,
 they're heavier, they're heavier.
 And drone tech requires super lightweight batteries.
 But what we need is the better batteries
 and the cattle batteries are coming online.
 So there's a lot of stuff that is just looming
 on the horizon.
 I think it's one of our favorite topics
 is talking about energy storage and how that's evolving.
 - Yeah, it's important,
 especially with the future of the Apple launch.
 - Right, right.
 I think even Wozniak from Apple,
 in terms of an Apple story,
 he was investing in server farms,
 but server farms that were based on solid state tech.
 - Both say batteries?
 - And batteries, yeah.
 Batteries and tech that can operate
 with less power faster and off grid.
 So yeah, the future is definitely in that direction,
 but we're in a big part right now where PG&E
 is pretty much in charge of power in California.
 And they--
 - We're never making it difficult
 for individuals to go off grid.
 - Yeah, they are.
 And they don't like it
 if people even think in that direction.
 - I just fell into it by accident.
 - Yeah, well, we had to 'cause we are--
 - And Acres, Tulex was on sale at Costco,
 and Bobby said, "You gotta buy that now."
 So I said, "Okay, well, four, I don't know, okay."
 And they put him in the closet
 and then he came in with Bob,
 a five hours later,
 and hooked up with the automatic
 close-
 - The
 - The
 - The
 - The
 - The way it can actually take 2D pictures
 and take people and put them three dimensionally
 in your Apple Vision device is amazing.
 Yeah, you can refresh all those old pictures
 you have that are flat
 and then bring these people
 almost three dimensionally out of the picture
 and get them to float off the picture.
 - They're also gonna have a super wide screen
 when it's hooked up to your mat.
 - Yeah, 8K, you could have several movies--
 - Super expansive way around you.
 - Like 180 degree iMacs kind of experience, yeah.
 - Wow.
 - And that's in the Apple Vision Pro.
 - Yes.
 - Well, there's a lot of controversy about that.
 It didn't sell as much as people thought it should,
 but hey, you know, Apple's--
 - Well, they had a half a million of them
 or something like that.
 I mean, Apple was basically doing R&D
 to really see what the next model is.
 And it sounds to me like the photography
 and the photos and the 3D stuff
 is one of the things that people really love
 about the Apple Vision Pro
 is that it's really excellent on projecting 3D media.
 That's kind of exciting
 because I'm getting into the 360 media too
 and I'm sure it's quite good at that as well.
 - And the new Apple TV OS is gonna include
 a Snoopy screen saver.
 (loud beep)
 - Oh, well, thanks for that.
 - Yeah, that's, I can hardly wait.
 - Yeah, exactly.
 - I don't know.
 I used to love Apple TV.
 I still watch the channel, but God,
 I don't really see why I should spend a couple hundred dollars
 for that when I can get everything on a Roku for 30.
 - What do you mean?
 I gave you that Roku.
 - Well, you gave me the first one.
 - For three.
 - The first one, I use it for my backup projector now.
 I know I've got a more modern one now with voice activation.
 - You get the Ultra?
 - And I like it, and I like the Roku.
 - I do too.
 I'm a shareholder.
 I love Roku.
 - I love it.
 - I do.
 - And what's great about it is that Taylor,
 who introduced you to Roku?
 Taylor.
 - Yeah, Bobby's out of the--
 - Oh, Bobby, once again.
 - He's got a Roku.
 He's got a Roku from 1965 or something like that.
 - Yeah, right, sure.
 I saw a building that said Roku on it by the San Jose airport.
 - Yeah, they're based there.
 That's the--
 - That's their home base, huh?
 - San Jose.
 - Wow.
 - Yeah.
 - So we got them, we got Netflix.
 - That's the locally, Ronin' Bread, yeah.
 - Roku.
 (laughing)
 - Roku TVs now?
 - Yeah, so I'm not impressed with Apple TV
 in the sense that I can use Roku to play my iPhone
 onto the big screen.
 - I agree.
 - So with the Roku, so why Bobby?
 - I agree.
 You've got Apple TV plus on the Roku.
 You don't need that Apple TV hardware.
 - Yeah, I just don't see the point of it.
 Maybe the games.
 - I like the Roku interface better than the Apple TV--
 - Yeah, yeah, it's great also.
 Yeah.
 - So are you guys saying that as a way of connecting
 your computer and your phone to your television screen,
 Roku offers more than Apple TV?
 Because Roku has Apple TV inside of it
 and it's not the other way around.
 - Yeah, I'd say so.
 I think that the Roku remote is so much easier
 to use than Apple's remote.
 And also the Roku--
 You just get, I like to use AirPlay 2
 and you can project anything that's on the phone up onto
 the screen through your Roku.
 Or through the TV for that, man.
 I've got a Sony TV.
 I just select the TV model number and boom.
 - Yeah, AirPlay is integrated.
 - AirPlay is integrated now.
 - AirPlay 2 is completely painless projection
 of anything on the pad or the phone.
 - Yeah, so--
 - I can even choose my sound system
 because it's a compatible Sony sound system, the HT9.
 - I wanna talk about Siri.
 Okay, Siri, Apple made some enhancements
 to make Siri smarter.
 We've been waiting for Siri to get smarter for a while.
 - 10 years.
 - 10 years.
 - I love the time.
 - And Siri was a kid, had a lagging behind Alexa and Echo.
 - Just off the top of my head, I think the most important
 thing that they promised, which I'll believe when I see it,
 is that Siri actually knows how to use the Apple device.
 And if you need help with your Apple device,
 then Siri knows how to guide it and figure it out.
 - Yes.
 - It's been so amazing to me all this time
 that Siri doesn't even know how to operate the Apple device.
 Much less, get out into the world and give you information.
 So we'll hope for the best on that.
 - Yeah, we forgot to mention there is a new remote app
 that people that understand the technology
 can actually remotely control someone else's,
 like your parents' iPad,
 and then show them on the screen remotely
 and run their apps remotely.
 So that's gonna help a lot of people
 that don't understand their Apple devices
 and have people like Elle and Taylor tell other people
 how to run an app on their iPad or iPhone.
 - Yeah, and not to be alarmist,
 but it was really hitting me since I don't really understand
 how they're protecting the privacy
 when the devices can all share.
 It seemed ironic that they're bragging about
 how private your information is
 and how it's only on your device,
 but you now can control all these other devices
 from your device.
 So they should really go about explaining
 why that's better privacy,
 'cause it sounds like it's easier to hack.
 - I'm just supposed to trust them.
 It's Apple-ish, is it trustable?
 - Well, that's what I said.
 The whole thing is just trust us.
 You don't need to know the details, just-
 - That's right, exactly.
 That's what I like about Apple.
 - Well, the interesting thing is that you're not just a user
 with this, the Apple Intelligence is baked into your ability
 to create apps now, too.
 And I find that intriguing.
 What kind of apps can I create with Apple Intelligence?
 - Yeah, well, this whole-
 - They can tell the Apple Intelligence what they have you want
 and it'll make it for you.
 - There you go, it should work.
 - As long as you live for me.
 - That's what you're saying.
 - As long as you are an Apple developer, that's true.
 That's not true of just anybody who buys a phone.
 You also have to sign up to be an Apple developer.
 It's just a matter of signing up.
 - I agree, I agree, but you have to want to enough
 to figure out how to get in the system.
 And not everybody does.
 A lot of people barely know how to use their phone.
 - A lot of people have lives.
 - Yeah, well, I think one of the things they could do
 is that the AI, because they track our asses so closely,
 they'd be able to tell what we're really good at
 and what we really suck at.
 - Oh no, like people be revealed.
 - Of Bobby's genius in math and your ability
 to watch many shows at once.
 - This is Al's new idea.
 It's an app that will reveal your superpowers.
 - Well, yeah, at least your talents, your abilities.
 - As voted on by the AI.
 - Yeah, find out what your true talents are, app.
 - You know, if it wasn't for the "Doctor Future" show,
 I would have never understood my superpower.
 - Oh, that's so kind.
 - Well, there you go.
 The app should be that discover your superpowers.
 - You have many powers, Bobby.
 - Yeah.
 - Well, no, the point is it does take an outside feedback
 to let you know which of your qualities are outstanding,
 because otherwise you're not necessarily your own best judge.
 - Do you think it'll understand humor?
 - Oh, well, eventually,
 but that's one of our higher intelligence things.
 - As long as the people that are programming it
 keep having a sense of humor,
 I think the big battle in the future
 is between the humorless and the people
 who appreciate a good joke.
 - I like to know what real AI humor is.
 I mean, it's not gonna intrinsically
 not gonna be the same as our humor.
 - You think real AI, there is such a thing, real AI?
 - Yeah, I think fun of--
 - That means real artificial out.
 - Yeah.
 (both laugh)
 - Well, I think the physicists are trying to look for--
 - Only war.
 - Dark energy. - Dark energy.
 - Yeah, I think they're gonna find
 a dark energy somehow related to fun.
 - Wish, make my mama.
 - Yeah, you know, I--
 - And fun is a fundamental force in universe.
 - Dark energy is related to fun.
 - And so yes, AI's will figure out something
 that really works for them.
 We won't have to anthropomorphize,
 which is funny to them.
 They'll figure it out.
 It's beyond us, really.
 - Oh, you think we're not gonna be able to get AI jokes?
 - No. (laughs)
 No, I don't think so.
 I think, first, maybe once we have some immersive movies
 you were able to put your feet into the shoes of a real AI
 and know exactly what it's experiencing,
 but then maybe, then maybe you'll get it.
 - See, I actually think that we are talking about the AI,
 like it's one big Skynet,
 that it's our future Uber overlords,
 but I think it actually is, just like society right now,
 it's going to be concentrated around individuals who use it.
 And so there's gonna be a society of AI's
 and they're gonna have different strengths and weaknesses
 and we will be aligning ourselves with them
 according to what's popular.
 - It's not just gonna be like one AI
 and getting some charge of all reality.
 - I'm gonna decentralize intelligence.
 - Yeah.
 - I am.
 (laughs)
 - Well, I'm just setting this up for the next hour
 when we're gonna discuss some interesting uses of AI
 that are coming up in the real world, not just at Apple.
 - Yes.
 Meanwhile, I do think we're onto something here.
 I like to make a Discover Your Superpowers app.
 I think that's an admirable goal for me to try to achieve.
 - I think you can ask me the Apple AI to keep up for you.
 - I wanna have some modules
 for discovering your Superpowers.
 Maybe and activate your Superpowers module
 after you discover them.
 So the first module would be discover your powers
 and the next one would be to activate them.
 - Do you think it will use a cattle prod?
 - Well, good for some people.
 - Oh, well.
 - For some, you know.
 - That would get us going.
 - Yeah.
 - May drain your battery faster.
 - I think when Elon was coming up with
 how to activate Superpowers, he was inventing torches.
 Remember he was selling those torch, flame, floor,
 - Those are cool.
 - Yeah, flame doors, yeah.
 - Yeah, I'm sure that would motivate some Superpowers.
 - I'm sure would.
 After you activate them,
 they're gonna be kind of weak initially
 'cause you're not used to using your Superpowers.
 So you're gonna need another module.
 - So what are we gonna buy next, Dale?
 I'm gonna buy the iPhone 16 Pro Max
 with the two terabyte storage.
 And I'm gonna buy a watch on 10 with an X,
 Roman numeral X is what they're gonna do probably.
 - Well, for me, I'm gonna buy the Amplify
 your Superpowers module.
 'Cause once I've activated them,
 I wanna amplify them.
 - Oh yeah, okay, I think that was only free.
 - So there's three modules.
 Discover, activate, and amplify your Superpowers.
 Now can the AI's help me with this?
 That's the question.
 Anyway, back to what I'm gonna actually buy,
 whatever it can help me make my app now.
 - You need a new watch.
 - A new watch, okay, a watch 10, right?
 The new OSS 10.
 - With the X for 10, yeah, the Roman numeral.
 - Okay.
 - Everybody will call it Series X,
 but it's really gonna be called--
 - Uh huh.
 - The real is Series 10.
 - Now I suppose it'll be able to provide biometrics
 from my evolution, right?
 It's gonna pick up heart rate, heart rate variability,
 things in the watch.
 The watch will be tracking bios.
 - It already does that.
 - Yeah, it already does that.
 Blood pressure, does it do blood pressure again?
 - That might be an addition.
 - Uh huh.
 - Blood pressure might be an addition.
 - Blue coast levels.
 - I don't know about the--
 - Real time glucose monitoring.
 - I'll tell you a little more years down the road.
 - That's all coming out now, by the way,
 in terms of pressure.
 - There are a bunch of cheap phones
 from China that do blood pressure already,
 but Apple wouldn't subscribe to the way they do that.
 - Okay.
 All right, well, that would make the watch more useful to me
 in terms of my health.
 - Anybody going for an iPad, an M4 iPad Pro, 11 or 13?
 Not me.
 - I'm gonna go for it.
 You gonna do that?
 - Yeah, four?
 - Yeah.
 - 11 inch.
 - Yeah, I would go for the smaller 11 inch,
 the cheaper one.
 - You're gonna go for the 512?
 512 is 12 hundred bucks.
 - Maybe, yeah, I have to look it over at the specs again.
 - The Apple card, it's only 100 bucks a month.
 So look at the specs.
 There was no difference in speed between the 256 and 512.
 So just buy the cheap.
 Yeah, just buy the--
 - You think the 66 is all you're gonna need?
 - That, yeah.
 I got terabytes of storage.
 - All right, guys.
 - You can put external.
 - Wrap it up.
 Wrap it up.
 - Okay.
 All right.
 - So.
 - I look forward to hearing your view.
 - Thanks, Taylor.
 Thanks, Bobby.
 - Thank you.
 - Thank you.
 - Thank you for having us.
 - We really appreciate the opportunity
 to share our wisdom.
 - Yeah.
 - See it after this Santa Cruz break.
 - Glad you're here, Taylor.
 - Thanks for being part of it.
 - Love you guys.
 - Love you too.
 - You're so beautiful.
 - Bye for now.
 - Bye.
 - Bye.
 - We'll be right back.
 (upbeat music)
 - Okay, we is back.
 I do believe.
 - You got it.
 Yes, we are.
 Live and on time.
 - So I did get a comment from Billy Sunshine,
 who says he's one of those seniors
 who needs all the help he can get
 with his computing needs.
 So that's where fellow seniors like Taylor can help out.
 - That's right.
 - Senior nerds.
 - This is what works for me,
 that large print and the thing,
 the phone that plugs into my hearing aid
 and what else?
 - That's me all the way, that works.
 (laughing)
 - Okay.
 - Yeah.
 - So, well that was fun.
 It was a ramble through the Apple announcements.
 It was actually, the dev conference is huge right now.
 All of the things that they're trying to focus on
 and trying to make easier.
 Now that AI is accelerating what you can do as a developer,
 I think Apple's doing a really good job
 of making that accessible.
 - During the break, I've created this promo
 for our new app here.
 - You're gonna play it.
 - And it discovers it's a power app, yeah.
 Listen to this.
 - Okay.
 - Finally, I've discovered my very special superpower
 thanks to this handy dandy app powered by Apple Intelligence.
 Now it's time to activate.
 - All right.
 - Yeah, see that all plugs into the second module.
 - Very extra.
 - Which is discoverable, how reactivated.
 - Oh, that's very clever.
 So you're activating superpowers, say.
 - Next thing I gotta get to--
 - For those of us in the radio audience,
 Dr. Future is actually the face behind that endorsement.
 - Of the imaginary app.
 - Part of our quasi-fiction story, right?
 - That's right, that's right.
 It's gonna go into your graphic novel.
 - I invented an AI app that allows everyone
 to discover their superpowers.
 - Mm-hmm.
 - Yeah.
 - That's, we all need that, absolutely.
 - Don't you like, yeah?
 - Meanwhile, I'm looking at ads
 for never used chicken coops, stuff like that.
 (laughing)
 - We really are looking in opposite directions these days.
 - I am not a big fan of chickens.
 - I mean, chicken coops, I love chicken,
 but that is animals that I have to take care of, I don't know.
 - I'm kinda getting ready.
 I mean, I'm gonna do another bunch of travel
 before we commit to animals,
 but I'm looking forward to having some animals.
 - That's what goes away, when you have those dumb little
 clocks at your behalf.
 - Well, I've been learning that people who are into eggs
 really prefer ducks because they're not as cruel
 to each other as chickens, so I don't know.
 We'll figure it out.
 (laughing)
 - Yeah, Katia just loves duck eggs, and Michael and Jaya,
 they're eating duck eggs now instead of regular eggs.
 Yeah, it's a big deal.
 - Yeah, right.
 - Much healthier.
 - Right.
 - Duck eggs, okay, see?
 - Yeah.
 - And I hear to stand ducks are much easier to take care of.
 And we do have a little duck pond down below us
 and our neighbors land, so maybe they could go there
 and we wouldn't have to take care of them even.
 - Find out where they're laying their eggs.
 - Yeah, yeah, nice, late next door.
 (laughing)
 - Well, in that case, we can't use AI to train them
 to just lay them on our porch.
 - No, but you could get the little robots to pick up the eggs
 and bring them to your door.
 (laughing)
 They'd have to scale the cliff down.
 - Okay, so--
 - 'Cause Tracique's property there.
 - And you think your superpower app is gonna be able
 to invent an AI robot that can go find the duck eggs
 that we're looking for randomly around our property?
 - I'm saying that with the help of Apple Intelligence,
 anything is possible.
 - Okay, well, you have high expectations, my friend.
 (laughing)
 - That's what keeps it going.
 (laughing)
 - I'm gonna raise the bar for these things.
 - Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it.
 I find that I'm the backup plan when the AI
 can't quite figure it out yet.
 It's on my to-do list.
 - Well, believe me, doing the dishes
 is one of the first things we want it to do.
 - Uh-huh, right, right, okay.
 I hope you-- - Well, we'll leave you
 and charge you the cooking.
 (laughing)
 - Fair enough.
 - You can be creative.
 And I like going to the farmer's markets too.
 - That too. - You can leave me
 in charge of that. - Okay.
 - Okay.
 - The robots will just carry the stuff for you.
 - Right. - Drive the car.
 - Uh-huh. - Details.
 - Yeah, so listen, I would like to hear
 the classic space focus of the--
 - Yes, there is some good space.
 - Dr. Future Intelligence System.
 - Okay, so-- - Because that's one
 of my favorite parts of the show.
 - Okay, let's get some space news then.
 - Okay, space news. - Get out too.
 Space news.
 - As Colbert likes to say.
 - Yeah, I'll post it on the Dr. Future Show.com links page.
 This is the latest clickable fascinations
 that Dr. Future wanted to talk about
 with the audience today on the show.
 - Okay, so one of our great investments,
 which dropped to practically nothing,
 is climbing back up again.
 Virgin Galactic.
 - Virgin Galactic. - Is it the news?
 - Oh yes, I had such high hopes for them at first
 because they were first in the field.
 In 2004, Virgin Galactic won the X Prize
 for the first reusable vehicle that could go to space
 and come back again and be launched within a week.
 That was Bert Ratan and Virgin Galactic
 and Sir Richard Branson taking home that prize.
 And during that period of time,
 they were actually collecting investment money
 because they were offering seats on their to be developed
 space flight vehicle.
 - Yeah, that's the beginning.
 - Their first launch, I guess, was about three or four years ago.
 I don't remember their exact.
 (beeping)
 - First launch. - Did they say one thing
 for a moment?
 - What's that? - Do we have a choice?
 Here you are. - Forget about,
 there's, I message is gonna be,
 can use the satellites for I message.
 Free.
 (phone ringing)
 - All right, Taylor, no more budding in.
 - Yeah, okay. - Because you're not even listening.
 You're not listening. - Space,
 that means easy texting anywhere on the planet.
 - Great, but you had a whole hour to tell us that.
 - Yeah, no, at the Sun's time now, Taylor.
 But yeah, I get it. - I don't appreciate the way.
 I don't like the production values of the way that your
 lack of preparedness brings it up in the middle
 of something else that is interesting to me.
 (beeping)
 - Looks like we lost them.
 Get back to the VMS eve, Mrs. Future.
 - Yeah. - The VSS Unity.
 - Okay. - And the VMS eve,
 the Unity and the Mothership,
 that are now being retired for new ships.
 - Yeah. - That's the big news.
 - Right.
 - They're retiring the second generation ships.
 You were talking about the first generation,
 which was 20 years ago. - Yeah.
 - I remember that one too.
 That was Bert Rutten's original design.
 - Yeah. - Yeah.
 - Yeah, so now they have fulfilled all of those original
 contracts where they were selling $200,000 seats
 to go up to the Carmen line and come back.
 And to do that in basically the most eco-rocket in existence,
 the Virgin Galactic Glider that gets a lift up to that area
 of space and then goes into orbit so that you can just see
 the little bubble of atmosphere above the horizon of earth
 and you see dark space above it.
 - Yes. - And he's fulfilled all
 of those original tickets that funded the creation
 of Virgin Galactic and now Virgin Galactic is gonna start
 focusing on other kinds of flights.
 I think that the future model is that we're going to go
 to space using less petroleum, less hydrocarbons
 and hang out up there enjoying the scenery
 while the planet rotates underneath you and then land.
 And that's one of the visions for the future
 of domestic travel or international travel is to actually
 go to space and then come back down because it takes less
 fuel than using hydrocarbons going through the atmosphere
 the whole way. - Yeah, so there's a lot
 of opportunity for space machines to replace airplanes.
 - Yeah, but anyway, the big announcement today is
 that they're retiring their unity module which has been
 giving those rides to space tourists until now.
 - Yeah, now they have about a billion dollars in cash reserve
 to go to the next phase with the new ships.
 And this is where space tourism really takes off
 with a vengeance. - All right.
 (eerie music)
 - The big news of course everyone has seen this week
 has been the both the Boeing Starliner
 and the SpaceX Starship missions were both successful.
 - Successful.
 - It's a really good week for space launches.
 - Yeah, on-spire.
 I would say that the SpaceX Starship overshadowed
 the Boeing for me because it was a whole new experience.
 It was a major.
 - They hit all their milestone things.
 They actually got the thing to land in the water
 exactly that they intended.
 - Yeah, yeah.
 - And even while one of the wings on Starship was melting,
 it still made it land correctly.
 - Yes, it was being desiccated by the extreme heat
 as it fell but it persevered to land into the water.
 - Yeah, we saw a cute little YouTube podcast after that
 where he was interviewed about it
 and apparently the material was steel
 and that was as opposed to aluminum
 or some other composite that wouldn't have stood up
 as well to that heat test.
 - Stainless steel, I think they were here.
 - Yes, stainless steel.
 - Yeah, but compared to the third launch of the Starship,
 the amount of plasma that you saw during re-entry
 was much less, it was distributed in a different way
 and it was the first time that we saw the shot
 of the booster which was absolutely beautiful.
 I just love the artistic geometries
 of the arrangements of the rockets
 and the way that they look as they're firing
 at their various stages.
 It's artistic, it's just amazing.
 - Yeah, yeah.
 So I met all their milestones
 and they are very, very, very happy.
 I've never seen so much enthusiasm
 in the thousand or so SpaceX employees on the screen
 is when they reached each of these milestones.
 - Mm-hmm, yeah, they were very proud.
 It's been a long time coming.
 - Yeah, the next big Starship 5,
 where they're gonna try to catch the booster
 as it comes down with these giant chopsticks.
 (laughs)
 - Yes, because it's the largest rocket ever.
 - To land back to Earth.
 - This time they landed but in the ocean
 just off the coast of Texas.
 - Yes, but what they managed to perfect
 was the free fall and the relighting of the engines
 so that they could control the descent, which means that.
 And I think they said they were a few kilometers off.
 - Those are the landing, that was on the Indian Ocean.
 - Yeah.
 - Side of the thing.
 - But they have confidence that they are close enough
 and can control it well enough
 that they can catch it next time, which is great.
 - Yeah, that's the booster, yeah.
 - They had it so that it would tilt vertically
 and then come down and I think they were down
 to like six miles an hour.
 They slowed the thing down before it landed on the water.
 - Yeah, right.
 - Exactly.
 - Yeah, it was amazing.
 - Yeah, so imagine, what is it like a 13-story building
 or something like that?
 You've got a 13-story building that is falling from space
 at a controlled speed.
 (laughs)
 It's just so sci-fi.
 Meanwhile, the Starliner from Boeing
 and its first human crew set course for the ISS.
 They was mostly okay except that they did have
 some helium leaks and some thruster failures,
 but they made it there.
 They add two NASA astronauts, Butch Wilmore
 and SUNY Williams.
 Got jubilant welcomes aboard the station
 Thursday afternoon.
 Now they're gonna be there for about eight days or so
 and then they'll be heading back.
 - All right.
 - That's kind of fun news this week.
 - Space News.
 - Yeah.
 - Also, this was kind of interesting
 'cause we often talk about climate change and such
 and we of course are somewhat controversial
 in that we don't subscribe to any one theory.
 - We read the internet.
 We have a lot of feeds.
 - About what's actually happening here.
 But one of the themes that we've often discussed
 is that if there were some changes in the sun,
 for example, all the planets would have weather changes.
 - Right, that's it.
 - All planets would have weather changes.
 There's nothing more influential than the sun in our world.
 - For example, and so when I read this piece,
 Interstellar Space Clouds triggered the ice ages,
 some new research suggests,
 it got me thinking that it's not just the sun
 that can affect the weather patterns here
 and create ice ages.
 - Isn't that amazing?
 - Yeah, now this theory goes back to the Pleistocene epoch
 and that's glaciers, woolly mammoths, Neanderthals,
 pretty recent history in terms of the overall scheme
 of the planet.
 12,000 years ago.
 - Is when it ended.
 - At the end of the last ice age.
 A team of researchers are saying that
 hundreds of thousands of years of our planet's history
 may have been chilly because we floated through
 a cloud in space.
 - Like a dust cloud, like star nursery.
 - Interstellar cloud, 'cause we're rotating
 around the Milky Way.
 It takes like 200,000 years to go around.
 - We're orbiting the Milky Way.
 - Yeah, we're orbiting the black hole,
 the sun and Sagittarius A at the center of our galaxy.
 So we're rotating as we're constantly going
 into new space as we rotate.
 - Well, our galaxy is rotating.
 I wish you'd say orbiting,
 'cause we here on Earth and the solar system
 are the thing that is going around.
 So we're orbiting.
 - And we're going into new space as we orbit.
 And that new space is not empty.
 In this theory, it's a giant interstellar cloud
 that is able to cause the planet to be blocked
 from the sun and hence create an ice age here.
 - Isn't that amazing that the stardust
 that our solar system finds itself wandering through
 can be so thick that it can actually block out the sunlight?
 That's a pretty thick space cloud.
 - Well, at least a little bit.
 How much does it have to be blocked
 to shift the weather from what it is today to an ice age?
 That's where our scientists could come in.
 They could really calculate that.
 It's a certain amount of energy.
 And is that amount of energy congruent
 with how much a cloud could cut down on radiation?
 - Right.
 So this research is happening in a lab in Czechoslovakia
 and they're trying to create a model
 of the orbit of the Earth around the sun
 and the orbit of the sun around the center
 of the galaxy that explains what we observe
 in the geological record.
 And in the geological record, they think that when we went
 through this cloud, which is, it's described as a cold strand
 that is coming from a constellation known as the Lynx constellation.
 And so imagine the space weather
 where it's just a little colder on this strand of our galaxy.
 And as we go through that strand in the galaxy,
 our whole solar system gets cold.
 It's a whole new kind of space weather
 that I've never considered before.
 It's the weather that makes the sun irrelevant
 because we're in cold space.
 - Yeah, this cloud is called the local Lynx of cold clouds,
 the LXCCS.
 - It's in the direction of the Lynx constellation.
 It's a little portion.
 - Lynx of cold clouds is what it's called.
 - Two million years ago, it was making our planet colder
 than we'd been before that.
 - Yeah, so the clouds are lifting kind of?
 - Well, we got out of that portion of the,
 I guess you'd call it the galactic space.
 - Yeah, the interstellar space.
 We got beyond that Lynx arm of the galaxy
 and warmed up again and started a new era, a new epoch
 after the Pleistocene, here we are today.
 - So there.
 - How do they study it?
 Anyway, go ahead.
 - What's interesting is, you know, this galaxy,
 it's like a big wheel and it turns.
 - Yes.
 - And we are in one of the arms,
 it's called the Sagittarius arm of the galaxy.
 - Yeah, it.
 - We only are removing in the plane of the galaxy,
 but we're actually, the solar system is bobbing up and down
 as it goes around.
 So it's a bob.
 And there's this theory that, you know, as we're bobbing,
 if we bob up high enough, we might get direct access
 to the center of the galaxy, where the black hole is.
 We could get zapped by direct gamma ray energy
 from this black hole because of this stellar dust
 between us and the center of the galaxy.
 We can't even optically see it,
 we can see it through radio waves
 and it goes through the dust or infrared can go through the dust
 and we can see the center of the black hole
 at the center of the galaxy.
 But, you know, we might be able to bob up high enough
 in a point and we might get direct gamma radiation
 from that.
 And so that would transform life on the planet
 and our solar system.
 - Well, wait a minute, I've heard that gamma ray
 bursters can turn this planet into a cinder.
 You're not talking like that, are you?
 - Just lower levels of that.
 - Lower levels, I say, just massive cancer for all.
 - Well, they're saying, you know, these things,
 actually life has changed because of this gamma radiation
 and different epochs have changed
 and it probably developed mammals.
 You know, there's a possibility.
 - No, yeah, so mutations contributed to what is,
 basically.
 - Yes, so there's positive mutations
 that are in a frequency that can affect your DNA too.
 So, you know, it might activate things
 and that's one of the theories out there.
 So we might come into this new age of Aquarius
 and it might be an energetic wave
 coming from the center of the galaxy.
 - All right, well, I hope we survive.
 - As we bob.
 - No, no, we were supposed to survive.
 - It's intentional, yeah.
 - We bobbed into the black hole's view.
 - Wow, this is what we get.
 - All right, perhaps we should ponder that
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 Dark Matter has been a kind of vexing issue
 in the physics world.
 It's kind of not real.
 It's no real evidence for it exists.
 It's just that mathematically--
 - They keep looking for it and they can't find it.
 - Theoretically it should be there
 but there's no evidence and for some physicists
 this failure to find it is getting kind of desperate
 leading to some new radical ideas.
 - Do tell.
 What are the new radical ideas?
 - One of the things I got my attention was that
 gravity without mass,
 you know the idea of gravity without mass.
 - That's new.
 I thought gravity was the beginning of,
 I thought mass just inherently contained gravity.
 - That's right, that's right.
 But now this is, I said it, radical theories.
 This is one where gravity without mass
 is an explanation for the failure to find dark matter.
 - Oh, I see, so we keep looking for it in the wrong place.
 - Or we start understanding things in the wrong way.
 Or in a way that is not quite correct.
 - Okay, so what did you learn from this article?
 - The idea is that maybe we've been misunderstanding gravity.
 - Oh, I see, this new proposal says gravity without mass
 created by topological defects in time space.
 - Space time.
 - Space time.
 Okay, so now we're gonna start looking
 for topological defects in space time.
 - That's right, right.
 - That sounds easier to find than dark matter.
 - Well, dark matter been around for a while since 1932.
 - Yeah, but they still can't find it.
 - No, but they were trying to figure out back then
 the observation that galaxies are moving in ways
 consistent with them having more mass
 than the actual sum of their stars and gas.
 - Yeah, somebody added up all the mass
 and the invisible stars and couldn't come up
 with enough gravity to explain it.
 - That's the other thing, I've been having friends
 telling me this lately, we need to check this out
 that a similar phenomenon exists here on Earth.
 That if you actually go and you count all the population
 of all the major cities on Earth and all the populace
 and you add them all up, it adds up to like four billion,
 not eight billion.
 That's strange anyway.
 - That's strange, well that leaves me.
 - I once met a guy who was from Africa who said that
 in Africa in his tribal village, when they come
 for the census, the people just line up and go through
 a bunch of times so that they won't have the right number.
 (laughing)
 - So let's just say that counting things is problematic
 if you want accuracy. - It's like statistics.
 - You're not always hitting the mark.
 There's better ways to be accurate than counting heads
 or counting belly buttons.
 Anyway, that's an aside.
 Here, nevertheless, we're talking about dark matter,
 which I mean we're talking about the entire universe
 and trying to add up how much mass there is
 when we don't even know the Hubble telescope
 told us that the darkest part of the sky
 is full of a whole bunch more galaxies.
 No wonder we can't find the dark matter.
 - Yeah, it gets complicated, but originally back in the '30s
 they were trying to figure this out
 through such simple explanations as counting stellar
 populations than maybe they undercounted.
 But those explanations don't account for the amount
 that it's different.
 - Yeah, right.
 The math just doesn't confirm the theory.
 So we're looking for some new theories.
 We've got professor Richard Liu,
 - Yes. - University of Alabama at Huntsville
 and he's got his own spin.
 - Yeah, he proposes that his light passes an object
 like a galaxy and a gravitational lens
 it's bent slightly inward by its passage.
 And this bend would be barely distinguishable
 from what would occur if there was more mass pulling on it.
 And the same goes for the movements of stars
 around a galactic center of mass.
 He says, "These two phenomena are the basis
 "of our confidence that dark matter exists
 "and alternative process for both
 "would render dark matter unnecessary."
 These defects, he doesn't know why they would exist
 but these defects would be some kind of massive
 cosmological phase transition of the early universe.
 - He points out that no one has been able to find any evidence
 at all of normal dark matter.
 Billions of dollars and the finest minds of our generation
 have been unsuccessful in finding it.
 So why not start to look at some fundamental issues
 like gravity?
 Maybe it works a little differently than we think it does.
 - Sure, this fellow is proposing something
 that is a mathematical model that explains maybe
 how the universe works, it explains gravity
 according to the math, not necessarily according to the theory.
 - That somehow gravity works differently
 on larger scales than we think.
 He points out in this piece that there have been
 other scientists thinking along these lines
 that there's a fairly well-known alternative theory
 of gravity called modified Newtonian dynamics
 or MOND, M-O-N-D.
 Gee, with an O would be Mondo.
 Which is that meaning for me?
 Anyway, MOND got a fair bit of attention
 but it's been proven to be more popular
 with journalists than with physicists.
 So what is that?
 It's an interesting idea.
 It's kind of compelling but apparently
 it doesn't hold water when it really comes down
 to the science.
 - Well, I think it's very interesting.
 Physicists are pure scientists and they are immersed
 in genuine hypothesis which means they know they don't know.
 And the most interesting conversations are happening
 with the people who are the most well-read,
 who have gotten their understanding from people
 who were guessing at an explanation
 and then they're digesting what has become accepted
 based on those original questions.
 And they're saying, well, since those original questions
 haven't really been answered, let's go back to the drawing board.
 Let's ask some new questions.
 Maybe this is an explanation.
 And so I think there's a lot of that going on
 in physics right now and I love listening
 to those conversations.
 There's so many podcasts with brilliant people
 that really express how speculative it all is.
 - Yes, a fun place for that is IFL Science.
 - Is that a podcast?
 - That's a website.
 - Oh, it's a website, right?
 - IFL Science. - Great.
 - Where that one exists,
 where gravity without mass is a new explanation
 for the failure to find dark matter.
 - Okay, thank you, Stephen Lutz.
 - And while we're out there in terms of the fundamental
 aspects of universe, one more piece from a curious website
 called Charming Science.
 - Oh, Charming. - Charming Science.
 - And of course, that would be a physics science website.
 - Charming is definitely one of the aspects of physics.
 - Charming is one of the quirks.
 It's the name of one of the quirks.
 - Well, this piece reads,
 scientists discover a new type of magnetism
 never noticed before.
 - Alter magnetism.
 - Alter. - Alter.
 - Oh. - Like alternate.
 - Not the kind we're used to.
 - No, not the kind we're used to, yeah.
 - Maybe like, electricity, alternating current,
 like that kind of alter.
 - The way they describe it, there's a magnetic family
 thanks to the experiments of the Swiss light source, or SLS.
 There's this new member of the magnetic family
 reported in nature.
 It deals with fundamental physics.
 Now, just a quick paragraph on magnetism.
 We all know it, magnet sticking on your fridge.
 - Sure. - Right?
 - Yeah. - And that's known as
 - Ferromagnetic branch. - And ferromagnets, yeah.
 And since then, the family of magnetic materials
 has been divided into two phases.
 The ferromagnetic branch, those are known
 for several millennia.
 - Those are the, that's like the attractive magnetic force
 that makes things stick, okay?
 - And then they're the anti-ferromagnetic.
 - Oh, and that's more like where it repulses it.
 - Well, the anti-ferromagnetic is,
 actually doesn't show a sign of magnetism.
 It's like neutral.
 It doesn't repulse or approach its--
 - That's funny. - That's magnetic.
 - And why did they even call it a magnet?
 - I don't know.
 It's the deeper issues of understanding magnetism
 beyond ferromagnetics.
 Anyway, this third branch, beyond all that,
 is called ultra magnetism.
 They say the fundamental magnetic phases that I mentioned,
 defined by the specific spontaneous arrangements
 of magnetic moments or electron spins
 and of atoms that carry the moments in crystals.
 Ferromagnets are the type of magnets
 that stick to the fridge.
 Here, spin points in the same direction,
 giving macroscopic magnetism.
 In anti-ferromagnetic materials,
 spins in alternate directions.
 With the result that the materials possess
 no macroscopic net magnetization.
 So, what I was saying, there's no magnetism.
 - Okay, so-- - So don't stick to the fridge.
 - Thus, what we're talking about is at the level
 of the tiniest magnetic potential
 where electricity can be observed and measured and stuff.
 You either have ferromagnetics,
 which have a very well-defined north-south pole.
 Energy goes from negative to positive.
 It moves in a predictable way.
 Those are all the magnetic qualities
 of the ferromagnetic types of magnetism.
 And then the anti-ferromagnetic materials
 basically have the magnetic qualities canceling.
 Like the north pole and the south pole
 are both pointing in the same direction
 and so any magnetic quality would get canceled
 because the south pole would cancel
 what the north pole is doing, something like that.
 - Yes.
 - And so this new type of magnetism is
 the combination of the arrangement spins
 and crystal symmetries. - Right, right.
 The spins alternate as an anti-ferromagnetic
 resulting in no net magnetization.
 Does stick to the fridge.
 But rather than just canceling out,
 the symmetries give an electronic band structure
 with strong spin polarization that flips
 in direction as you pass through
 the materials energy base.
 - So that's kind of like the electricity
 that is going through the magnetic field.
 First it's facing one way and then it moves
 and then it faces the next way
 and it's all about how the electricity is moving
 and the direction it's facing
 based on interacting with these little magnets
 that are crystallized underneath.
 - And it's part of what developing field
 known as spin tronics.
 - Oh. - Spin tronics.
 Not electronics, spin tronics, about the spins.
 - Interesting. - Yeah.
 Where normal electronics is mostly about electrons.
 Spin exploits the spin state of electrons
 to carry information.
 It's been around for some years as a field.
 It's still in its infancy and they mostly use
 ferromagnets for spin tronics.
 But these alter magnets offer a new kind of--
 - Some advantages.
 - Strong spin that is non-magnetic
 which is very useful in certain possible inventions
 that they're not describing too much just yet.
 Yeah, so maybe anti-gravity, that would be interesting though.
 - I think it's more related to
 the research being done with single electron depth carbon
 where they're using electric fields that are like a plasma
 that's floating across the medium.
 And so it's sort of like electricity is like water
 flowing over wires instead of charge running through wires.
 And that's what this would facilitate.
 - Yeah, different part of what's going on here.
 - Yeah. - So if you study how electrons
 pass through wires, you think, oh, they go down
 the center of the wire, actually electricity,
 the electrons travel on the outside surface
 and they go down the outside surface of the copper cable,
 the wire itself.
 They don't travel inside, they travel on the surface side
 outside.
 - Right. - So fatter copper wires.
 - What this is offering is instead of having a wire,
 instead of having like a single direction,
 which is like the ferromagnetic direction,
 that there's a definite going from minus to plus.
 And this interrupts it by having imperfections
 that change the spin of the electricity.
 So it goes a little turns, goes a little turns,
 goes a little turns and somehow these properties
 will allow us to have a different quality of electricity
 that is not quite the same as the one
 that the wire is creating.
 So it has the potential say for creating a semiconductor
 in a new way, right? - Yeah.
 - That allows some electricity, but not all.
 - The superconductor acts like this wire
 and a superconductor, it allows the electron to go
 without any resistance down on top of the sheet.
 Let's say it's graphing.
 - Yeah, like a maglev train, right?
 It doesn't touch and it goes without friction or something.
 - So I think if you were trying to develop
 a better maglev train, if you understood
 that as the maglev train moves over this superconducting material
 and it creates this electromagnetic thing,
 then you can take advantage of the spin as it moves
 and maybe on the maglev train,
 you're getting these electrons as they spin in one direction
 and as they move across they spin in another direction.
 - Sure, yeah, you can get all of the ones facing one way
 on the left side and all the ones facing the other way
 on the right side and then together they can push together
 instead of getting in the way.
 - There might be a way to get uses with semiconductors
 and superconductors and get them to spin
 when you want them to spin in the right direction.
 With no resistance at all in the superconductor.
 - So apparently this is next generation magnetic technology
 known as spin tronics.
 - Yes, and they call it unconventional superconductivity,
 which is kind of what you're talking about.
 New insights into superconducting states
 that can arise in different magnetic materials.
 - Fascinating.
 - Magnesium telluride, who is the substance
 in which this was discovered,
 third kind of magnetism.
 - Right.
 - Yeah, that's, telluride, it's one of those like yitrium
 and there's special material sciences stuff
 that are very good for superconductors, you know?
 - Yeah. - Okay.
 - Not quite ready for mainstream news.
 As you can see it's a little more complicated
 but very interesting, ultra magnetism.
 - Just to ground it so people can look for more--
 - Oh, ground it.
 - Thomas Jungworth from the Institute of Physics
 at the Czech Academy of Sciences
 is the principal investigator.
 So you can look for more about--
 - Okay. - Ultra-magnetics.
 - Okay. - That way.
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 - Now let's go to politics for a minute, shall we?
 Well, kind of politics, AI in politics.
 - Oh, there you go.
 - Wired had a really interesting piece on an AI candidate
 running for Parliament in the UK.
 - Don't you love Wired?
 - Yeah, I named AI Steve.
 - AI Steve.
 - Yeah. - Is this for real soon?
 - Yeah, yeah. - I love it, sure, yeah.
 - And UK, they're having big elections next month
 and they're looking at having their first AI politician.
 AI Steve, he's an avatar of a real person named Stephen Endicott,
 who's a businessman that lives in the Brighton area.
 It's by the beach, kind of like the sand bridge.
 - Parliament as an independent.
 - Yeah, yeah, he's running as an independent.
 And he'll have his own AI that his constituency can query.
 Kind of like you do Siri or Alexa,
 only you'll be talking to AI Steve.
 And you can ask him questions and he'll give you answers
 and he'll be able to talk to 10,000 people at once
 and find out what his constituencies really want
 in his community.
 He'll be able to-- - Deepak Chopra
 created an AI of himself.
 - I know, but it wasn't that functional compared to this.
 I mean, this sounds like if he's gonna collect all the issues
 that a community needs to think about
 for everything from garbage collection
 to street repair to tourism, why not have this?
 Voters will be able to have a one-on-one with their candidate
 anytime they want or they're representative
 and add input and it will go into the system
 and it'll get tallied and organized
 so that the Steve in this case, Endicott,
 can actually carry out what the people want.
 - It's interesting, it's kind of a little bit,
 before we get into what's so interesting about an AI
 as a politician, just having somebody like this on the ballot,
 having the AI on the ballot instead of your person
 is a little bit like putting a pet on the ballot
 or a motorcycle on the ballot
 or something that isn't a person, right?
 - Well, it's kind of human, it's got a human attached to it.
 - Right, but I think it's just, it's uncharted territory.
 - It is, that's what I like about it.
 AI Steve.
 - Right.
 - Yeah, and.
 - You know what this is gonna do?
 Can you imagine that if this AI,
 it can go out on the web and figure out who it's talking to?
 So let's say you query this AI,
 it will know before you even ask the question,
 everything about you, and then it knows how to appropriately
 respond to any question you have that would appeal to you.
 And so it would be like having a relative that's talking to you,
 that knows you from many, many years,
 and it can influence the way you think.
 - Yeah.
 - And.
 - Oh, that's so funny, you're the exact opposite of the way
 that I think that this candidate,
 Steve Endicott, who is supposed to be the in-person representative
 of this AI who's gonna go to all the meetings
 and cast the votes and everything.
 I think he believes that he will be not so much influencing
 the people as doing a survey of what they really want
 and then tallying all of their input
 into a more representative view.
 This whole article is about whether the AI is better
 at collecting truthful representative views.
 But you're going through the next step and saying,
 it's gonna actually push non-representative views
 on his constituents.
 - That's a change in that, certainly a potential issue.
 - Well, I think if you look at our current politicians,
 they started with the pushing the non-representative views
 on the constituents.
 - How should special interests be handled in balance
 with the will of the people?
 If democracy was smooth, how would it operate?
 How would that look like?
 - It allows these AIs to speak from,
 like the NSC white men speak with fork and tongue, right?
 So each of the AI can respond to any constituent
 and say what they wanna hear and actually lie
 about what is really true or what they really think.
 They just say what they want them to say think
 and then get their vote.
 And then once they're in power, let's say,
 then they can just say, yeah, you voted for me and I'm here,
 but then ultimately it could understand
 how to influence the masses.
 And I'm sure all the part without there are using AI
 to discover how to manipulate as many people
 to come to their side.
 - Oh yeah, that was the big revelation
 with Cambridge Analytics.
 And in the last election where they would customize
 tailor made messages for micro influencing voters
 and send out more messages than ever
 to a tinier and tinier segments of the population
 just to drive the vote.
 And really it's a form of cheating
 by coming up with a micro issue
 to get people to vote a certain way.
 - Yeah, let's see, AI Steve was designed by Neural Voice,
 an AI company then, Nikon actually is the CEO of course.
 He said a key element is creating your own database
 of information and how to inject customer data into it.
 He claims that the idea came from his own frustration
 when trying to enter politics in order to advocate
 for issues he cared about like in the environment.
 And yet when he actually got close to government people,
 he says that it was all about party jockeying
 and worrying about which seats or districts were safe
 and catering to special interests
 rather than responding to the needs of real people.
 So this was his answer to that frustration.
 He says the AI Steve will transcribe
 all these thousands of conversations it has
 with the constituents and with the voters.
 - And analyze them.
 - And put in policy and they'll forward them
 to a group of people he calls validators.
 And those are regular people who can indicate
 whether they care about an issue
 or want to see a particular policy enacted.
 - So the AI will summarize what the voters say
 for his team and then his team will push it forward
 to policy machine.
 - 50% want some action on the rail trail now.
 - Right, I think that a lot of politicians
 basically are doing this now.
 They analyze how many emails are coming in
 around a certain issue.
 So he's really just using the glamour of AI
 to say that he's going to do it intentionally
 and that he wants people to know
 that he's using software tools to represent their views.
 - Yeah, he's including them.
 - Yeah.
 - He says as so far as even though it's only been active
 for a few days, people have been asking questions
 from significant things in your community
 like trash collection all the way to what's going on
 in Palestine and Ukraine.
 They're asking his proxy or he's the proxy to the AI.
 - Right, yeah, he's the listener to the AI
 and the AI is doing the tallying.
 - And he said the important thing
 is knowing what your constituents want.
 Sounds obvious that a politician should be told
 what to do by their constituents.
 - Well, I think after they train the AI
 to listen to the constituents,
 I think they should come up with an AI
 that evaluates how closely the policies reflect
 what the constituents want.
 Like I think that the politicians should get graded
 on whether or not they're listening to the constituents.
 Like that's how the AI can help us all win.
 - And get stars?
 - Oh, the show is over.
 Hey, thanks everybody.
 - We got one minute ahead.
 - We got one minute.
 - Oh, my clock is a minute ahead.
 That's what's confusing.
 - Yeah, this one.
 - All right.
 - Use the atomic clock, Mrs. Future.
 - We'll use the atomic clock.
 - Yes, and it's true.
 We have rest of the minute.
 - Now is your chance.
 Well, thanks everybody for a great show.
 I'm really fun hanging out with y'all.
 - Yeah, yeah, thanks Bobby for your input
 on all these important issues.
 And next time, that'll be the middle of June
 and we'll be talking to you probably down from the beach.
 - Thanks Taylor.
 - Oh, great.
 - Yeah, thanks Taylor.
 - Thanks Taylor.
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