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 And here we are.
 And here we are.
 Future now.
 Where are we today, Mrs. Future?
 We are in Mount Shasta.
 We arrived last night and we're staying at Mary's Inn.
 The Mount Shasta Inn.
 And it's a wonderful old-fashioned guest house
 that has the entire third floor dedicated to us in our show today.
 Yeah, we're very fortunate to be here.
 It's a beautiful house.
 Yes.
 And it was recommended by our friend Bobby Spurr,
 who is creating an amazing healing clinic down in Elkhorn Monterey.
 That's right.
 It was Bobby's connection with Mary.
 Mary here.
 Later in the show was a trained RN who decided to leave it all to be in Mount Shasta here.
 That's right.
 That's right.
 We'll find out all about her.
 Yes.
 Journey.
 Our hostess.
 Yes, she's going to show up, we hope, at about two o'clock.
 206.
 So we'll get a chance to meet our hostess, Mary.
 Yeah, it was quite amazing stories.
 Yeah.
 Then she has to share too.
 Bobby, happy Easter beyond and whatever you're celebrating, happy, happy.
 Yes, it looks like you guys are red.
 They have the glowing light from Mount Shasta and through the door there.
 It's amazing.
 It looks beautiful there.
 It is.
 It's gorgeous.
 We have a view of the mountain from the house.
 From our bed.
 From our bed especially.
 It's amazing.
 We can't climb it yet.
 It's all covered in snow.
 Yeah.
 Yeah, you have to wait until probably July, I think.
 It's the most southern end of the Cascadian mountain range and volcanic ridge that stretches
 all the way to here.
 And we were given great suggestions by various friends along the way to come down 197 and
 97 along the Deshoot River for some of it.
 Yeah, more of a central Oregon experience.
 Yes, and with the view of the mountains for most of the journey, you could see the whole
 mountain range.
 Cascadian range was so clear yesterday.
 Oh.
 We had 100 mile plus visibility while driving.
 Yeah.
 And open plains.
 You're in the high desert in central Oregon.
 Right.
 And we spent three days there in this really classic turn of the 19th century built.
 Yes, the Balto Hotel.
 Hotel.
 Which is really, I think it's a local secret, but it's a 100 year old classic hotel that
 is maintained for local events.
 I guess it houses probably 20 or 30 rooms worth of guests.
 There's a lot of bathtubs, three stories, no elevator.
 1906.
 There's the first building in the area that had power.
 Right.
 And it's because they built one of the first hydroelectric plants nearby.
 The Dallas.
 No, even closer than that.
 That's the big one on the Columbia.
 But before the Columbia went up, there was one in that little river.
 The first falls.
 The white falls.
 The white river falls.
 Yes, I think that was it.
 Very close to the Balto Hotel.
 And that little hydroelectric plant was built in 1901.
 Right.
 They started to have power at the turn of the century.
 Yeah.
 And the Balto was the first big building to get it.
 Right.
 Right there.
 There's no other buildings much in Dura 4.
 Right.
 And so even though it is a classic historic building, it's also been rebuilt by modern
 day contractors who put in power and internet and all kinds of stuff.
 Yeah.
 It's kind of interesting.
 Like that I asked them if they ever had phones in the rooms.
 And you know, they skipped the whole phone era.
 They never had phones in the room.
 And they are different in the sense that if you go to any of the corporate hotel chains,
 you now have all kinds of things in your room.
 You have like we were at the Hilton in Seattle for a wedding.
 And it was normal to have a coffee pot, a cake cup type machine, a refrigerator, a microwave
 even and a safe and a television screen, big flat screen in your hotel room.
 And that's kind of more de rigre than normal American experience these days.
 But the Balto Hotel was like going back into the turn of the 19th century, a little bit
 in the sense of the feel of the place.
 They had it really antique furnishings.
 What was nice though is they had good bandwidth and they had a very kind staff that was always
 a very attentive tour needs and wants.
 Yeah.
 And the funny thing was we had a climb to the third floor with all our equipment gear and
 stuff.
 Oh yeah.
 It was a tour of loads.
 We're worried about not getting enough exercise.
 And then the older the hotel comes in an ass after the last load.
 He says, "Can I help you?"
 And Holly is watching us for the time.
 Yeah, she was head consumer about it though.
 She knew it was the end.
 And the trip from Port Townsend is an amazing town.
 I highly recommend any of you folks out there enjoy Port Townsend.
 If you like Santa Cruz, if you like San Francisco, if you like the Bay Area, you're going to
 like Port Townsend.
 Well, and if you listen to our last show, we were in Port Townsend.
 That's when we were interviewing Jim Roth and Cassie Furman about the future of democracy,
 not just better choice, but choice creation.
 Yeah.
 What's the stop at choice when you can have choice creation?
 Yeah, the next level of democracy.
 So that's last week's show.
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 There's beautiful bridges.
 Waterfalls near the bridges.
 A lot of the old routes,
 it's called Route 30 today.
 You can drive.
 It's very popular with bicyclists.
 It's good weather.
 We hear that it's really crowded in the summer.
 So much so that they're closing it down and
 charging admission, something like Yosemite or something.
 But not yet.
 It's still available.
 Definitely.
 If you haven't been up to this part of the country,
 you can turn it into Oregon.
 We're very inspired by the Columbia Gorge scenery
 and the Cascadian Mountains.
 The whole thing, there's something romance up here
 of the fairy boats and taking fairies to go places.
 There's a very old fashioned, like romantic about it.
 They just have it down.
 It's easier than taking a bus.
 You just drive onto a ferry.
 Take your car with you.
 What is it?
 20 bucks?
 You're going to go to the car, two people?
 Edmonds Kingston Ferry.
 Yeah, you're going to take it out to Port Townsend quickly.
 Yeah, there's a ferry right to Canada too.
 If you want to go there's probably a little bit more expensive.
 I haven't checked out to that one yet.
 Yeah, no telling.
 But there's a cheap one to Whitby Island.
 Yeah.
 Just right across the bay, I guess, from Port Townsend.
 Mm-hmm.
 So we're really enjoying our road trip on this corner
 of the United States, which we haven't really explored before.
 And a shout out to Chris Olson, who we also met on the journey.
 Yes.
 Thanks to Brother Norm.
 Uh-huh.
 He introduced us over a text chat.
 Right.
 And he, of course, was very enthusiastic because the Marigale Museum was just a half hour away
 from where he lived.
 And he thought that'd be a good time to come out and meet us for a drink,
 get to know some of his friends' family.
 Yeah, that was a delightful connection.
 Thanks Norm.
 Amazing breath in his thinking and perception of the world.
 Uh-huh.
 You know, from being a Navy man to his multi-variant understanding of metaphysics.
 Right.
 Yeah, for us it was very appropriate that he suggested that we all meet at the Marigale
 winery.
 And of course, we're not really very often drinking wine,
 but we're not really going to be a patio.
 Yeah.
 Yeah.
 If you like sipping wine and looking at gorgeous views, this is your place.
 Yeah.
 And it just so happened that they were doing wine tastings.
 And one of their wine was called Surindipity, which of course for us has been the theme
 of this whole trip.
 That's a strange attractor that name, I tell you.
 Yes.
 So we bought that bottle.
 Was it like $44, $46, something like that?
 Yes.
 And you buy a bottle, you get free wine tasting.
 Yeah.
 It was for the price of admission.
 $40.
 Yeah.
 If you just want wine tasting.
 Yeah, it's fascinating.
 The place, we had a great conversation.
 We hung out for a couple hours and explored the universe together.
 Yeah.
 It's really fun.
 Yeah, we really enjoyed our get together.
 And it was Chris who suggested the way to come south so that we stayed on 197 and 97,
 because I don't know that Google would have necessarily taken us that way.
 It was definitely the scenic view and it was so beautiful.
 I was so glad that we went that way.
 He did give as an ex-navy man who's worked a lot with boats.
 Did say one thing about the disaster in Baltimore.
 Oh, yes.
 Right.
 We had a nice long chat about that.
 He was quite familiar.
 And I thought it would be worth passing that on.
 Pass it on.
 Do tell.
 He definitely feels like it was an accident that all these conspiracy stories about spoofing
 GPS and such are just that.
 Just that.
 Yeah.
 And I think it's just an imagination.
 Even though they're in the realm of the possible, it's very believable that this is just an accident
 that happened.
 I guess what happens is that if you have a repeatable incident, like if we suddenly see
 a number of ships doing this sort of thing, then we'd start to see a pattern here and recognize
 that maybe somebody is mucking with the GPS systems.
 Wasn't there a big collapse of the freeway just out of Philadelphia last year?
 There was a truck that caught fire under the freeway and then caused the freeway to collapse.
 That was last year.
 Yeah.
 Well, I didn't make a connection there.
 Well, I'm just thinking of disruptors to the East Coast commerce that seem like we're sure
 hearing about a lot more of them than we ever have before.
 There were toxic train wrecks.
 Cyber warfare is a real thing.
 And there's many forms of it.
 And hacking is well known since the beginning of all this.
 We'll try to keep you on top of it.
 As far as the Baltimore--
 This one, I don't think we're not conspiracy theorists on this yet.
 Well, among the evidence that has been recognized as significant to point to it being truly
 a system failure and an accident is the fact that while the ship was docked in port for
 several days, it was having electrical issues.
 Yeah.
 The power failure that caused this crash was very consistent with the fact that they had
 been having some power issues while they were docked.
 That definitely speaks of accident.
 It does.
 Even more so.
 And this was GPS spoofing.
 This is using GPS spoofing for moving the cargo ship to hit the bridge.
 Well, okay.
 If you want to talk about the spoofing conspiracy theory, more of Logan has deeply decided.
 It's been suggesting that her secret sources are quite convinced that there was GPS spoofing
 going on.
 Defense intelligence agencies.
 Yeah, DIA.
 And that what that involved would be someone closer with a stronger GPS signal than the
 general one that ships would be tuning in.
 Yeah, the Iranians are famous for using that for hijacking one of our drones.
 And by giving the false GPS information, actually telling the boat that it was in a different
 part of the channel than it was, and the crew visually recognizing that they had a problem,
 but their instruments weren't confirming it.
 And so they had some kind of chaos about what to do to solve the problem.
 So her story says that they cut the power on the boat to solve the problem.
 And then that caused a bigger problem.
 Because I guess the standard protocol is if you're not on track, then you drop the anchor
 or you do a number of things.
 Yeah, the anchor.
 And a ship of that size is going to take a long time before it stops from an anchor.
 Oh, it doesn't stop.
 In fact, most of the reports we heard of said that a ship that large would just drag the
 anchor.
 It probably wouldn't stop.
 Pretty much.
 Yeah.
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 We all know about the eclipse cup of gum.
 April 8th.
 Yeah.
 I'm not a solicitor, but maybe catch this press release yesterday.
 Nope.
 It came in and it says eclipse path of day is miscalculated.
 What?
 Yeah.
 It says by failing to account for the time it takes light to travel from the sun, a laser
 based model led by the US national observatories measurement, alignment and astronomy administration.
 No ma'am.
 This is a short.
 No ma'am.
 S has been shown to be off by seven days and 1,843 miles.
 And that means that the eclipse is like coming at us like now.
 Oh, this came out yesterday, right?
 Yes.
 Oh, uh huh.
 And what day was yesterday?
 South Wales UVU's class of 20.
 Today is April 2nd.
 Yes.
 Today is a second.
 Yesterday was April 1st.
 I knew that press release and geez.
 I call that fake news, honey.
 You fell for it.
 Well, I read it anyway.
 Did you?
 Yeah.
 You got a laugh out of it.
 Yeah.
 Hilarious.
 Yeah.
 It will be good.
 April Fools.
 No ma'am indeed.
 Yeah.
 Well, as you know, in reality predicting eclipse is pretty much a precise science.
 Yes.
 Yeah.
 Yes.
 It's so precise that they use the eclipse to predict the very first actual recorded
 date in Western history.
 It's called the War of the Eclipse.
 And because of the fact that there was an eclipse, ancient historians were able to date
 that particular war to a particular moment in history.
 And everything before that is considered to be legend.
 Yes.
 Yeah.
 And the believer were accurate to within less than a second in 300 years in predicting.
 Now you're talking about an atomic clock level of accuracy.
 Yeah, pretty much.
 I mean, we can predict these things pretty well.
 So it's not a big mistake.
 And because we're so good at predicting it, we come up with a new citizen science project
 that will reveal some of the secrets of the sun to us with any luck.
 Do tell.
 Well, it's in a plan to broadcast the entire total eclipse.
 Like if you're in any one location, you might see.
 Yeah, we're talking, this is no longer April Fools.
 This is really talking about the April 8th eclipse.
 This is a science project.
 The eclipse that's happening.
 Right.
 As we all probably know by now, that it's going to be a considerable swath of the solar
 eclipse across Mexico, the United States, and Canada.
 Right.
 It's a very nice, large swath and like literally millions of people will be able to see it
 in this swath.
 Yeah, it's about 100 miles wide.
 Yeah, yeah, exactly.
 And the view of the eclipse.
 Yeah, and a lot of people we know are going to Austin area.
 Right, because there's a totality.
 Buffalo.
 And Buffalo, your friends in Montreal, Vermont.
 Sure.
 And probably friends in New Jersey are going to Pennsylvania to see it.
 That's 100%.
 Right, right.
 Yeah, Tennessee is good.
 Anyway, so a lot of people we know are going to be in.
 And a lot of people are there and a lot of them are amateur astronomers.
 A number of citizen scientists got $314,000 from NASA to create what they call the dynamic
 eclipse broadcast initiative.
 And their idea is that in any one location, you'll see the eclipse for maybe five minutes.
 A very scant amount of time.
 But imagine if you had a number of cameras set up along the entire length of the eclipse,
 a kliptic across North America.
 And you could watch the eclipse constantly live for the length of time.
 It's like 100 minutes.
 Yeah.
 You would.
 Well, I think you're talking about on the internet.
 On the internet, right.
 You're all going to be able to watch the eclipse on the internet.
 And you'll see a total live.
 A hundred live minutes.
 Yeah, exactly.
 And a hundred minutes totality for a total of combining all that data coming in on the
 eclipse.
 And why would you want to do this?
 Why?
 One of the reasons is to investigate certain phenomena, certain that happen only during
 eclipses that allow you to study the sun more in detail.
 I see.
 From my understanding, it's mostly about the corona.
 And the corona is like the atmosphere above what you might call the core and the sun.
 Are there different densities of...
 Well, the corona is the crown around the sun.
 So I guess when there's an eclipse, it's the light that you still see outside that outlines
 the dark part of the moon.
 And the corona is a hundred thousand times hotter than the core.
 And so for some reason, the center of the sun light that we see is cool and the outside
 edge of the sun is super hot.
 I guess we kind of see that with fire.
 And torch, the fire, it's really hot around it.
 I think it's really hot.
 I don't think it's really cool in the middle of a fire.
 I think it's a mystery if that's the case.
 If the sun is cool.
 Bobby, if you take one of those infrared thermometers and at the end where it's the center of the
 candle just at the end of the wick, it's very cool there.
 And what's happened, it's very cool.
 And then as it rises, you have this mixture of carbon and oxygen and combustion happening.
 And actually, the hottest spot is just above the tip of the yellow of the flame, of the
 candle from flame, let's say.
 And so as you get higher, there's a full combustion and that's when the heat happens
 up there.
 So that's what, make your fingers and you can put out a candle at the base of where
 the wick is.
 You can just pinch your fingers and you can put out the candle.
 It doesn't burn you because the heat is above that area.
 Oh, that's really interesting.
 I never really thought about that.
 At the base of the wick?
 Yeah, if you...
 At the top of the wick, I would...
 Usually.
 Well, base of the flame.
 Yeah.
 And then, if you're a base coming from underneath, you can pinch the candle.
 Yeah, you can pinch it out.
 Cool.
 I never really thought about that being cooler.
 I guess it makes sense.
 Above the actual candle, lit flame because you concentrate as it goes up.
 Yeah, sure.
 So could it be a similar phenomenon in the fusion arena?
 I think it's the combination of...
 It's electromagnetic forces.
 So there's these huge electromagnetic forces that are very intense and it's taking all
 these elements and flinging them around.
 And it's not happening on the surface, but just in the corona era on the outside, where
 all electromagnetic energy is happening out there.
 There's only a couple thousand degrees, which is pretty warm considering on the surface.
 When you get out to the corona, it's like millions of degrees.
 It's crazy.
 Yeah.
 So I just had some kind of combustion thing on a nuclear level.
 Must be going on there or something to create that much heat.
 Well, I think it's stripping off electrons and making turning into ions.
 So maybe that's from...
 Staring off.
 Exactly.
 What's going on, but it's pretty crazy.
 Yeah.
 So I know that citizen science will reveal more on this by looking at it constantly for
 a hundred minutes.
 Yeah.
 I also have a couple of other things going on during the eclipse like NASA, I think is
 sending up some...
 That's right.
 That's another thing.
 Investigate to light.
 Yes.
 Yes.
 Okay.
 Just a couple more things to finish on the plasma dynamics of the inner solar corona.
 Oh, yes.
 Do tell us about the plasma dynamics of the inner solar...
 It's 10,000 times hotter and dimmer than the surface of the sun.
 And so it can only be studied in a total eclipse, according to the scientist into this.
 Okay.
 Yes.
 And part of this program is to use simpler, less expensive equipment than what they did
 in 2017, the last time they tried this.
 Okay.
 The last eclipse.
 Over Oregon, remember we were there.
 Yes.
 And now they have smaller cameras and telescopes with a wider field of view to image the corona,
 specifically looking at the corona.
 It's improved.
 Good quality, easy to use, 40 millimeter telescopes and astrophotography cameras have been sent
 out to teams across the eclipse zone.
 So they'll be able to get a solid hundred minutes with the same cameras.
 All right.
 Yeah.
 So this is the corona crew.
 300 people.
 300 people.
 300 people in teams along the path of totality.
 Which is by a lot of university and community colleges.
 And 20 of the teams, 20 of them are fully women.
 Mm-hmm.
 Yeah.
 Send you the eclipse.
 Mm-hmm.
 So this gets the public involved.
 It seems like a great citizen science project.
 And they have a website.
 Link to this thing, if you want to watch the eclipse from their point of view, that's available
 on the internet, wherever you might be.
 Right.
 Whether there's clouds in the sky or not, the internet will show you the best view.
 Yeah.
 Yeah.
 So go to drfeshershow.com/links and you'll find it.
 Okay.
 And so that's looking for the citizen scientist.
 Yeah.
 It's called Inside the Ambicious Plan to broadcast the entire total solar eclipse.
 Okay.
 So that's one of the things going on.
 On another front, NASA is launching sounding rockets into the moon shadow.
 Mm-hmm.
 Three sounding.
 Three sounding.
 Sounding.
 Well, they're a long time.
 They've been around a long time.
 They're solid state rockets.
 They can be multi-stage.
 They allow you to go up into the suborbital space.
 You can go 55 miles to a few hundred miles with a sounding rocket.
 And the idea here is that they will be launching three different times to study the eclipse.
 Once about 45 minutes before the eclipse, another during the eclipse and another 45
 minutes after the peak of the local eclipse, that collects data on how the sun disappearance
 affects the ionosphere.
 Okay.
 But suddenly it's cold.
 It's measuring before, during, and after.
 Right.
 Okay.
 And the ionosphere, creating disturbances that interferes with or maybe we can use it to
 enhance communication.
 Like, haemoradiologists like to use skip times when the ionosphere is being stimulated by
 the sun to get long distance connections.
 Oh, I can't amplify your signal.
 Yeah.
 But I think mostly they're looking at how the eclipse causes changes in our ionosphere.
 That's between 55 and 310 miles.
 The boundary between the Earth's lower atmosphere where we live in the vacuum of space.
 Mm-hmm.
 Yes.
 And that's why when the night falls and the ionosphere thins out, you see things in the
 sky.
 I see.
 The ionosphere.
 Yeah.
 And it's a bit veil to what's going on around us.
 The reason it's called the ionosphere is because that is where the solar radiation ionizes
 the molecules that are there.
 So they have electricity.
 They have magnetic properties.
 They have a charge that gets increased or decreased depending on what's going on with
 the sun.
 And of course that affects our radio communications.
 That affects any of our satellite communications.
 Yeah.
 The shadow goes across the atmosphere.
 It creates this localized sunset.
 And these atmospheric waves are like a wave that goes across the country.
 A perturbation that affects different radio frequencies.
 Gathering all those radio frequencies that it's affecting will create a more accurate
 wave.
 So it's a really cool, interesting visual to see it because they did one in 2017.
 And you can see how this electromagnetic wave travels from the eclipse and goes out.
 So a thousand miles on both sides of the eclipse.
 And so there's all this ionization happening because of the shadow of the moon.
 It's a big wave.
 When things get colder like at night, the ionosphere cools down and becomes less active.
 And if you think about the ionosphere being charged up by sunlight, then of course it's
 like pulling the plug.
 Right.
 Right.
 We're putting the moon as a block between all that power coming in from the sun.
 And so now we're just getting the shadow.
 And it's fun to think that at nighttime is when you get best radio reception.
 So chances are if you're listening, especially listening to an AM radio during the eclipse,
 you might find your ability to pick up long distance stations improves for those few minutes.
 Okay.
 Well, we'll have to see if that's holds up.
 We know that nighttime, that's true.
 At nighttime, that's true.
 We'll have the whole answer.
 But could a sporadic signal, we might allow a certain range of frequencies to be heard.
 What's interesting is if you look up the definition of the human residence, which is
 the president of frequent earth, it's actually based of how radio signals bounce off the
 ionosphere and come back down as it goes around the earth.
 So I think it would maybe have an effect on the human residence when this happens.
 I think we should take a look at that and see.
 A good experiment.
 Who's tracking it?
 What's your theory, Bobby?
 It seems like it would slow it down instead of a retzels because there's less ionization
 happening when it's happening there.
 And so it would take longer for the radio signals to bounce off the ionosphere because
 there's no ionosphere.
 There's not as many ions up there at the time.
 Yeah.
 But I could be totally wrong.
 I was nice.
 You get to put it out there.
 See what happens.
 Yeah.
 Well, this is going to be fun.
 So April 8th.
 I thought it was around noon in Alice.
 Around noon, that sounds about right.
 Yeah.
 And it travels about a thousand miles an hour.
 Yeah.
 It depends.
 Each eclipse varies in speed.
 So I know that there's planes that are following the eclipse for a long period, 700 miles an
 hour or so at the most.
 So they should network those planes have several planes connected with cameras.
 Yes.
 You probably get clearer images because you're above a lot of the atmosphere.
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 A big part of space travel is landing.
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 They seem to have the lift off down really well.
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 And NASA was kind of more like that when they first started.
 It's like a young NASA in some ways.
 First rockets.
 They would expect a lot of them were failures off the launch pad and they didn't really
 advertise that so much.
 And we didn't really hear about that.
 But later, you know, they down and they put more news worthiness to the launches because
 they were a little more assured that they weren't going to explode on the launch pad.
 Yeah.
 I've always marveled how brave they are to put the live webcast out.
 That's a real accountability.
 The Soviets were not broadcasting their rockets.
 There's a fear of failure that's really big.
 And it's really big.
 We all watched in sadness as India's first rocket crashed onto the moon.
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 Sad.
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 But the thing is, is not to judge them for that because we know you learn from your mistakes.
 And this literally is the truth of the matter.
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 What are we going to learn in the next hour?
 Because we're in the last 30 seconds of this hour.
 We're going to focus a little bit more on the magic of Mount Shasta here with some
 someone who's living here now.
 Right.
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 All right.
 Stay tuned for some magic and mysteries and theories of all that is.
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 Welcome back to the show.
 Yes.
 We find ourselves in Mount Shasta.
 Today, a beautiful, beautiful place that has had a many impact on me over the years, physically
 and spiritually.
 And we find ourselves again here.
 It was spontaneous.
 We actually came here because we were trying to find a place in Klamath Falls.
 That's true.
 Yeah.
 Yesterday, we just, the only criteria we had for yesterday was we wanted to land some place
 for two nights because we want to wake up.
 Sure.
 In a place where we do the show and then spend the night so we don't have to be moving out
 in the middle.
 And we had forgotten that we had this lovely connection with Mary on a way up.
 Well, remember that after we were failing left and right to find a place that we liked.
 That's true.
 We kept finding places that seemed like they were going to be terrible places to spend
 two days.
 Yeah.
 It just wasn't the standard we want to think about.
 Well, I think that a lot of the places we were driving by, even though they were very
 beautiful, they're more set up for fishing and for camping and they're not set up for
 the likes of us where we want to set up our studio and have a podcast and a podcast event
 wherever we are.
 Right.
 Right.
 So we're on the top floor of this beautiful Airbnb now.
 Thanks to her connection with Bobby Spur and Sam Hirsch.
 And her connection with Mary.
 And her connection.
 Mary, you are lucky to have this on the show now.
 And Mary, welcome to the show.
 Mary Donnelly.
 Thank you so much for having me.
 Wow.
 This is really impromptu and unexpected and I just love it.
 Yeah.
 The part of the magic of Shasta.
 You had the spontaneity and you know.
 Yep.
 And then synchronicities.
 Yes.
 Comes to the connections, the community.
 Yeah.
 Yeah.
 We all mutually attract, right?
 Yep.
 Yeah.
 So that really brings us up like how did you end up here in mystical, beautiful, mouth
 Shasta?
 Yeah.
 What's your, are you from the East Coast?
 Yes.
 I'm from the East Coast originally from Massachusetts, a New Englander, Maine, Rhode Island.
 Everybody hadn't been out to the West Coast much.
 Yeah.
 Was this an event or somebody that you saw?
 Yeah.
 This woman was doing energy work for me and she did something called reconnective healing.
 And I had never had anyone do hands on healing before but I was completely open.
 Well, no, is it worth pointing to your life?
 Was this recently?
 That was in 2015.
 Okay.
 Was it after you became an RN?
 Yes.
 At that time I had been an RN for about seven years.
 And I was just starting to be curious, more curious about alternative and holistic healing.
 On your own?
 I mean, it wasn't encouraging the hospitals now.
 It certainly wasn't.
 And it was through my own experience where I just said enough is enough with my own health
 issues.
 And so there was a breaking point in the whole issue.
 Yes.
 Yeah, there was.
 I mean, I had been on medications for depression and anxiety and really this is what I was going
 to this woman.
 I was seeking help with that.
 Because I had said it just there wasn't a connection.
 It wasn't just medication after medication.
 It just wasn't making any sense to me.
 And it was also through my work as a nurse.
 I was an oncology nurse, pediatric oncology.
 Kids, really?
 Kids cancer?
 Yes.
 Yep.
 Right out of school I worked on that wing and it wasn't planned.
 I just kind of fell into it.
 I loved it for many years and then I was getting burned out.
 It was one of my patients who sought her mother, sought alternative healing for her.
 And it really made me think and open my eyes and...
 I mean, what do you mean by alternative healing?
 Like laying out of hands or?
 For cancer treatment.
 And she was...
 You're going down to Mexico.
 Well, she was exploring the cannabis.
 The oil, the sims and oil.
 Yep.
 Yep.
 And it did bring her daughter a lot of relief.
 Unfortunately, she was so far along in the chemo and the radiation.
 And for her, she passed but her mother became a strong advocate and I would follow her
 on Facebook and I started to explore a different world and it just made more sense to me and
 more natural world of healing.
 So I had this session, this Reconnective Healing done and Mount Chasta came up afterwards.
 And it might sound...
 Well, maybe not for your listeners.
 She could have said it.
 It sounds a little crazy.
 Yeah.
 Our listeners have a wide range.
 Yeah.
 And I have the beholder, but I will.
 Yes, exactly.
 And the Cascircumces aren't crazy.
 It's not as interesting.
 You know, I've met so many more people who have similar experiences of how they were
 drawn to the mountain.
 And for me, she was doing this healing and I saw Violet Orb in my third eye and she asked
 me after how the experience was and I described what I saw and she was pretty mad at her
 back.
 She said, "Oh, I believe that was Saint Germain.
 I worked very closely with him."
 And I was like, "Oh, who's Saint Germain?"
 And she was like, "Oh, I believe that's the violet flame."
 And I said, "Oh, wow."
 And so she pulled a picture off of her mantle that was a real picture of Mount Chasta with
 Orb, Violet Orb.
 And there was a...
 Over the mountain?
 A violet orb over Mount Chasta.
 Yeah.
 It was like a full view of the whole mountain.
 And then there was an orb in the center of the picture and there was a face behind it.
 And she was, "Oh, this is Mount Chasta and that's Saint Germain."
 And I was like, "Whoa, where's this place?"
 And the draw was immediate.
 Yeah, like maybe with some foreign country or something.
 Yes, I thought it was a different country.
 She's like Northern California.
 And I said, "Wow, I really need to go."
 And she told me that about a woman she went on a retreat with and she gave me her website.
 And she said, "Well, if you go, you have to stay at the Sped and Breakfast."
 David's Sped and Breakfast.
 And I said, "Oh, okay."
 And I just...
 Everything she told me, I followed.
 And three months later, I'm in Mount Chasta.
 And now...
 So, I was in Rhode Island at the time.
 Rhode Island, huh.
 And I'm working in Rhode Island.
 Working in Rhode Island at the Children's Hospital there.
 Well, so that was here last time you were in a regular job.
 Then before you came here?
 Yes.
 I worked a regular job here too.
 I was...
 So once you got here, you stayed here, but you also kept nursing.
 I did, yes.
 So what year was that?
 That was in 2017, January 2017.
 I started the year...
 What was the eclipse?
 The last eclipse?
 Was it?
 Well, it was the last big over this part of the world.
 I mean, there was eclipses all the time, but that was a big North American eclipse.
 That was in the summer?
 Yeah, that's right.
 I remember.
 Yes.
 Yes.
 There was a lot of traffic going up five here.
 Yes.
 Yeah, up in Oregon.
 Because I was here for that summer 2017.
 Yeah, big fires were going on.
 Yes.
 That was really new to me.
 Big police coast.
 Yeah, being worried about big fires.
 Yeah.
 I never walked outside before and smelled smoke where it was everywhere.
 Yes.
 You don't see it in Maine and Massachusetts.
 How often does that happen up here?
 More and more, right?
 Well, I'm curious just in your experience since 2017.
 You mean in Shasta area?
 Have you had smoke every summer?
 The last summer was a great summer.
 Wow.
 The year before that was tough.
 Little rough, yeah.
 You know, a little rough.
 Yeah, we noticed a lot of burnt woods behind Shasta on the way here from Oregon.
 Yes.
 And as you go down south.
 You know how long ago that was?
 It was, it was.
 That was two years?
 Really, that's recent.
 Yeah, it looked pretty.
 Talent, Ashland area, yeah.
 Yeah.
 That was a big one.
 And do they know what the causes of the fires are?
 Are they just seasonal?
 Are they theories?
 Well, that's a good question.
 They're calling them one.
 Yeah, it is a good question.
 Yeah.
 There's a lot of climate change is what comes to mind for most people on that.
 But there's also people starting them.
 It's a big topic.
 It is.
 It's kind of interesting.
 Shasta, which is such a spiritual mountain.
 And maybe there's a connection between the wisdom here on the mountain and the fires
 that are happening.
 Yeah, it's interesting too because we've been protected.
 There was actually a fire on Shasta, the lava fire.
 It was two years ago.
 And so not the sight we're seeing on this side.
 It was behind.
 Yeah.
 But it was really well contained.
 It went through the lava tubes and it was just like a wrapped around.
 And it could have been a lot worse.
 But it didn't get to that point.
 And they were able to contain it really quickly.
 Yeah.
 Do you think that the mountain has a spiritual protection or?
 Absolutely.
 Yes.
 Yeah.
 And have any particular being or do you think it's Sager made himself or?
 I think that he's part of it.
 Part of Violet Flame being here in Shasta.
 I mean, it's everywhere the Violet Flame really.
 But where he anchored it here.
 Right, anchored in Manchester.
 So you came here and did you meet people who taught you how to tune into the Violet Flame
 and how such a was.
 Yes, all these things never heard before.
 Never heard of Saint Germain, the Violet Flame.
 But there was this intrigue, this curiosity, this drive to want to know more.
 And so my time in Shasta, I've been in Shasta for seven years now.
 And I've got to explore so many incredible things and so much magic.
 I could never have imagined my life so very different from.
 As a healer, what kinds of modalities have come through for you?
 Well hands on healing came pretty quickly after my first time here.
 Hands on healing.
 Like a...
 Um, Reiki.
 I started with Reiki.
 Yes.
 While I was here, I learned another modality called La Ho Chi.
 That's another hands on healing.
 And now I've pretty much adapted it to just intuitively guided.
 And I do an aroma touch massage with essential oils.
 So I've combined hands on healing with the oils.
 So you tune into a person's body, feel where they need to be touched.
 Massage that at oil.
 Well we start by, I ask they have any concerns or anything they want to work on.
 And we set the intention for the session and then the energy just does the work.
 And so...
 It just flows through you.
 It does.
 Yep.
 And the oils, the healing properties of the oils, assist.
 Yeah, in the terms of it's...
 Now what about your consciousness?
 Do you just surrender to letting this happen?
 Yes, my intention is always for the highest and best and for balance, alignment and harmony.
 And each and every cell of the body.
 I imagine every cell in the body just completely, perfectly aligned, harmonized.
 And at that zero point place, our natural state of being.
 And when we're there, oh, we're open to it all.
 What do you think is possible with this?
 I mean, I think you may talk about immortality.
 Do you feel that could be true?
 I do.
 You know, I've met some really interesting, credible people here who've had really close
 experiences with the being of Saint Germain and mystical, magical things do happen.
 What's a good example?
 Well, from my personal experience, he's never appeared to me in that way.
 More is an energy or a flow of...
 More is a feeling.
 One of my first, I call it my initiation into Shasta.
 My first summer here, I got lost on the mountain, my favorite trail, Southgate Meadow.
 And I had to spend the night.
 And...
 Really?
 I did, yeah.
 What an adventure.
 And you know, of course, I was asking Saint Germain for guidance and how cool it would
 be if he could just appear and that would be like really epic.
 Yeah, that's right.
 But really looking back, it was more of like, it was an initiation.
 It was a vision quest.
 There was no time to be scared.
 It was like, I was so present and I knew I was protected and safe.
 It was like that energy of the violet flame when fear came in.
 It just transmuted it completely.
 I could just focus.
 I knew I didn't want to call for help because I felt silly for one because I was just not
 completely grounded and I wasn't paying attention to the trail.
 Also I knew there's nobody up here.
 I mean, it's eight hours till the sunrise is.
 I could find a spot.
 And I don't want to make a big thing for everybody.
 I felt like it wasn't an emergency.
 No, it definitely wasn't.
 I had a full signal on my phone and I had water.
 There's water nearby too.
 I became...
 I was really practical about it.
 I was like, okay, well, I want to spend the night somewhere out in the open.
 I don't want to be under a lot of trees.
 I want to see the stars.
 So this practical sense of yours has popped in.
 Maybe that's part of the guidance.
 It totally was.
 I was present.
 I was able to transmute fear instantly.
 I didn't panic.
 I even fell in the water at one point.
 But when I was really lost in the woods and couldn't find the trail, it was more fair
 there, naturally.
 But I heard a voice say, find the water.
 And sure enough, I found the water.
 And I was back on the trail.
 Yeah.
 So it was a clear audience.
 Yes.
 So some really cool things happen, you know?
 And then when I was crossing the little river, I heard, put your phone in your pocket, which
 I did.
 And then I fell in.
 I fell in it.
 I did a work out of the box.
 The phone survived.
 My socks and shoes though were wet and very cold.
 So I had to take those off for the night.
 You had to be in the cold for how long after that?
 Oh, it was eight hours.
 Eight hours.
 And it got to about 37 degrees because it was August, fortunately.
 Wow.
 But it was colder up there.
 So you survived to thrive?
 I did.
 I became like in the morning.
 I was like, I really don't want to put on those cold socks.
 So I had a t-shirt, which, and I had a pocket knife.
 So I made some socks.
 Oh, wow.
 I didn't want to sacrifice it overnight though because it was an important piece of clothing
 to wear on my.
 So I became like really, I don't know where it all came from, but it just became very
 good.
 You know, I had a little celebration every hour.
 I was like, oh, yay.
 So I made it something to look forward to.
 Yeah.
 So it was a real vision.
 Quest.
 Yes.
 And you felt guided sort of an inner guidance, like an intuition guidance.
 Yes, absolutely.
 I wouldn't say when I go do that again, but looking back, it was meeting the mountains.
 Yes, definitely meeting the mountain.
 Oh, and I've had another experience of getting lost where I definitely felt like I stepped
 through a portal.
 Oh, what was that like?
 So that was at Red for Flats.
 One of my favorite spots where Sunshine Rock is, it's like a forest of giant rocks and
 trees.
 I went with a friend who actually was a guest.
 She started as a guest and then became a friend.
 And I took her there was the first time and we were doing our own thing.
 And I just wandered a little ways away.
 I wasn't intentionally going far and on my way turning around, I found these rocks and
 I was like mesmerized.
 I was like, oh my gosh, I've never seen you before.
 But it had the energy of like a stonehenge.
 I've been to Stonehenge and I was like, wow, there's something magical here.
 But also I have no idea where I am.
 It's weird that I've never seen these rocks and I didn't go very far.
 So I went in circles looking for the set of rocks where she was at.
 And at one point I said, okay, well, today we're, I have to call for help.
 I knew it was, I had to do that because it was November.
 It was getting dark.
 So I had to, I called for help.
 And the deputy couldn't find me.
 I could hear him, but he was really far away.
 And a friend's husband who grew up here, the search and rescue on the mountain.
 So I called him.
 He knew where I was and where he picked me up.
 It was like two miles from where my friend was.
 So I knew I couldn't have gone two miles and well, there was no trail in the woods.
 So I definitely felt like something, I stepped through something.
 What makes it a portal in your understanding?
 Well, from my understanding, I guess a vortex would be different than a portal.
 Portals like something you go through to get somewhere else or a vortex is a distortion.
 You sit in it.
 Yeah, or the frequency maybe of that.
 And it spins, I think.
 I don't know.
 That's a good question.
 So you didn't feel like you had actually physically traversed a couple of miles, but somehow you
 were moved.
 I was moved.
 Yeah.
 And I actually have heard afterwards that, well, the guy who rescued me, who knew where
 I was because I described the location and he came back and we all had tea together and
 he was describing some experiences he's had rescuing people and their stories.
 And some of the stories are pretty like meeting beings like these two skiers.
 Skiers?
 Yeah, two skiers went up the mountain and they've summited many times, probably like
 20 times, and then one time they got lost and they separated and they each had really
 mystical experiences of meeting light beings, tall beings.
 One of them described a military base that he was taken to.
 But essentially these beings on the mountain helps get them rescued.
 I see.
 Someone's asking whether or not you've heard of Tilo's supposed to love a city from La
 Maria that's supposed to live in Mount Shasta?
 Yes.
 So the woman who did the reconnective healing for me, she's told me, you have to read the
 Tilo's books before you go to Shasta.
 The Tilo's books.
 There's one, two and three by Luis Aurelia Jones.
 I read the first one on the plane ride.
 I felt like I was in La Maria.
 I felt like I was in Tilo's.
 It resonated to the core of my being and so much so where I was in this cloud of, well,
 everyone knows Tilo's in Shasta, right?
 Well, that's not the case.
 Yeah, Tilo's Bible, Revelations of the New La Maria, and Rella Luis Jones.
 Wow.
 So what about it resonated like an ancient city that you were?
 Well, the La Maria resonated the ancient civilization before Atlantis and the way the
 beings connected with each other.
 Yes.
 The way they lived.
 I like what?
 Did they do hands on healing more?
 They lived in peace and harmony and there was no wars and they all got along.
 They didn't have disease and they could heal themselves and they would go to crystal temples
 for healing and it just was like, yes, I remember this.
 Same reel together.
 Yes, it did.
 It was very real.
 It is very real.
 So it became even more real once you moved here?
 It did.
 It did.
 It was very important to see people who have done meditations and we've gone into the
 crystal city of Telos.
 Now, your experience is that like an inner peace world or is it a physical manifestation
 you think or doesn't even need one?
 Well, from what I've gathered living here in Shasta and there's a physicality to it.
 So now a mountain attracts that energy.
 It supports that energy, yes.
 And it's believed that the beings in Telos, they descended from La Maria.
 Yeah.
 And then why didn't they come to Mount Shasta?
 Is that their ancestral home?
 Mount Shasta is believed to be part of La Maria before the flood.
 Before the cataclysm.
 Cataclysm, yes.
 Yeah.
 So there's a direct line.
 It's a continuity.
 Yes.
 There's a direct connection.
 What do they call those lines?
 Lay lines.
 Lay lines, yeah.
 I see.
 Now, do you feel like there's a different kind of time or frequency or how would you characterize
 the different experience that you had when you felt like you were in that vortex versus
 normal 20th century?
 Out of time, yeah.
 So time was not a factor.
 Yeah.
 Completely out of time and the energy of the stones was magnetizing.
 I've tried to find them again and I couldn't find them.
 That's interesting.
 But when you did find them, was there anything unusual in the getting to them?
 Did you set out for just a normal day of a hike and find yourself in an unexpected adventure?
 Yes.
 Well, that day, my intention was to bring our guests up there because it was her first
 time in Shasta and she hadn't been on the mountain and didn't feel comfortable venturing
 up on her own.
 I didn't know where to go.
 And so I told her about Red for Flats and Ascension Rock and you don't have to hike it
 too much, you just go in there and you sit on the stones, climb them stones and just
 be with nature and the energy there.
 So you just felt like it was a lovely place to recommend to someone who was familiar with
 the area and upon taking her there, you guys got separated.
 We did.
 And her phone was in my car.
 I was thinking, oh my goodness, she's going to, I can't believe I let this happen.
 Like how do this again?
 Oh, so you were a little guilt ridden.
 I was.
 And I'm supposed to be helping her.
 Yes.
 And her phone locked in my car.
 And it was just so, you know, it was so synchronistic.
 The whole thing, because you know, I was worried about, well, once my friend picked me up and
 he drove me two miles back to where my car was, she wasn't there.
 And I knew that she had gotten safely home, intuitively.
 I knew it.
 I knew there was some, and she ended up getting a ride home with someone who was passing through
 who worked at Apple where she used to work.
 And there was like a connection there and she was a really sweet woman.
 And then she was just worried about me.
 I was worried that she was going to be upset.
 So the guy who rescued me said, you know what, why don't I come over and I can kind of smooth
 it over and tell you guys some stories about rescues that I've had.
 So I'm really mystical.
 I said, sure, come on over.
 So that was so fun.
 And now we're so, we're very good friends.
 Me and Lausanne, and she moved to Shasta and she's thriving here.
 Oh boy.
 Yeah.
 So every day mysticism, I think is maybe what I'm taking away is one of the things that
 you found here.
 Yes.
 A lot of people have these kinds of experiences.
 Every day magic.
 Magic's everywhere.
 We create it.
 Certainly being here, I can see it.
 I see it more clearly.
 Wow.
 Now as a nurse, I mean, I imagine you're still a nurse.
 You just aren't currently necessarily practiced.
 Right.
 I am still a nurse and I will always be a nurse.
 Sure.
 Yeah.
 And so how do you bring these worlds together?
 How do you reconcile the differences?
 Of extreme science and norms and the world's very personal discovery.
 For me, reconciling the differences meant for me leaving that world because it became
 very clear during COVID that I was the nurse spending extra time with people telling them
 about the vitamins and things that they could do.
 They weren't telling that in the hospital.
 Oh no.
 One of the doctors laughed at one of the...
 One lady had asked, "Would it be helpful for me to take some extra vitamin C or vitamin
 D?"
 He literally just kind of laughed at her.
 Never mind.
 You can try, but it's not going to do anything.
 Then I would have the conversation afterwards.
 And then people would come back.
 They'd be sick for two weeks and they would come back looking for help, but they wouldn't
 be allowed in because they're like, "Well, there's nothing we can do."
 So I would spend the time with them in their cars, telling them.
 I was recommending all the alternative things that are out there.
 And so the world's were colliding for me.
 I had doctors just...
 I think you could get you in trouble with that.
 It kind of did for me, recommending vitamins.
 Yeah, absolutely.
 And for me saying, "Don't get that second job because you're really sick."
 I was witnessing and it was just such a bizarro world.
 Like, "Oh my gosh, how are you guys not seeing all of this?"
 Yeah, I think your story about how you were asked to sign a form and the fact that you
 were questioning the form and not necessarily willing to sign it because of the experimental
 use authorization status of the remedy and how at a certain point your employer just
 said, "Well, if you don't sign, we have to let you go."
 And so that was the end of it.
 Yes.
 Yeah.
 I challenged the vaccine mandate.
 Well, how'd that come up, first of all?
 I'm just saying, you're snoo.
 Well, initially it was mandated, but then the hospital I worked at were accepting religious
 exemptions, but they said you would have to be tested twice a week and wear that awful
 thick and 95 masks for your 12-plus hour shift.
 All the time, right.
 Those are actually...
 We were trained.
 You only went to wear those two hours and throw them away.
 They were having us reuse them for months pretty...
 Yeah, the people who were enforcing those laws had no concept of the actual laws that they
 were supposed to enforce and they had no authority to be making those demands, but they just
 acted as if they did.
 Oh, yes, they did.
 And I wasn't going to subject myself to that.
 That wasn't okay.
 So I challenged them by legally...
 I mean, it was my right to ask for informed consent since it was under an emergency authorization
 act, and I had all the documentation to back it up.
 So I sent them that information and all the questions I had, and I knew they weren't going
 to be able to answer any of them.
 And where are some of the biggest red flags for you?
 Well, so many things bothered me.
 I mean, I knew from a year prior to the mandates, I knew it was coming.
 They tried to do the flu vaccine mandate, and I knew this was...
 They were trying to preemptively get us in line, and we fought that actually as part of
 that protest here, and we won that little battle.
 Right from the get-go, this was not okay.
 Less than nine months, it was...
 It's not even a vaccine.
 I mean, there's so many things wrong with it.
 And then I actually saw...
 I saw what...
 I saw...
 I had been a nurse for 15 years, and I had never...
 I'd seen a couple of vaccine injuries in kids, and those weren't even called vaccine
 injuries, but I knew.
 I knew because I would ask these questions.
 And just maybe a few, never in an adult, and I was seeing...
 I saw three in one day, just me in this one.
 The pills didn't have the vaccine injuries?
 Yeah.
 Three in one day, and I was...
 What kind of symptoms?
 Well, one of them, this woman in her arm, it's seven days after it, and she couldn't
 move her arm.
 It was so painful.
 She was an agony, and there was no blood clot that was rolled out.
 She literally said to the doctor, "Do you think this could have been?"
 And he said, "I don't think so."
 And I was like, "As soon as he left, I said, "Man, this is absolutely from that, and if
 you get it again, it's going to be a lot worse."
 And he just sent her home.
 I gave her a sling.
 I didn't know what...
 There was nothing...
 She just was sent home anagony, and the other ones were...
 This blood pressure got so high, this woman ended up...
 She was having a heart attack at the clinic, so they sent her over to us.
 And these were just after they got the shot?
 Yep.
 This one was right after.
 Well, it's in 30 minutes.
 And then the other one was within a week.
 And there are no other circumstances that might have contributed to this?
 Well, the arm was pretty convincing.
 That's where she got...
 That's where we got it.
 That's where we got it.
 That's the shot.
 Yeah.
 Oh, and then all the people with the blood clots and the elevated D-dimer's.
 And yeah, no one was talking about...
 Oh, you know, in one thing, like before the actual...
 We've seen the injuries, you know?
 A whole nursing home was vaccinated when as soon as they came out.
 No, not one of those residents had come down with COVID in the year and a half.
 It'd been around.
 Well, they all came down with it after they got jabbed.
 And I'm just like, nobody was talking about that.
 What about your fellow nurses?
 Did they get it?
 Well, some of them did.
 Yes.
 There was a few of us.
 Just a few.
 But do you feel like there was this sort of...
 I don't know, this shroud where people were afraid to talk?
 They were afraid to state what they really felt.
 Yes.
 Uh-huh.
 Yes.
 Fear of some kind of response that would be negative.
 Oh, absolutely.
 Absolutely.
 I had a friend who overheard a doctor who she's worked with for many years say if people
 aren't vaccinated, we shouldn't even treat them if coming through those doors.
 And it was shot because she wasn't vaccinated.
 She wasn't vaccinated family.
 And she was like, "Wow.
 You wouldn't treat me or my family?"
 Because of that, when it became real personal, those attacks were...
 What do you think it became so heavy handed?
 Do you think it was all about the money, the reviser in those guys?
 You think that really is that simple?
 Well it trickled down to people thinking that that was the right thing to do.
 It's hard for me to think that the doctors that I know and respected and worked with closely.
 Just went with it.
 Yeah, just went with it.
 Peer pressure.
 So it started out without a stigma and then it developed a stigma and the stigma was in
 the wrong direction.
 Yes.
 Yes.
 Yes.
 Instead of it being like your choice.
 I was a conscious theorist.
 Yeah, right.
 So what did this teach you about human behavior?
 Oh, so much, right?
 Yeah.
 Yeah.
 Well, it's...
 No.
 And whoever it is, it all blocked you here.
 It did.
 And you know, I wanted to...
 My plan was to leave the hospital eventually and it was time.
 It was time.
 So you do a particular act that got attention and then you left or...
 Well, I had asked them to answer the 15 questions and they wanted me to sign something that
 said either I was not going to get vaccinated or I did or even that I don't want to answer.
 I didn't want to do any of that until I had the consent.
 And so they said, "Okay, well, if you don't do it, you'll be terminated by the end of September."
 Oh boy.
 That's what happened.
 That's what happened.
 Right.
 And so were you able to at that point still find ways of supporting yourself?
 Yes.
 Fortunately, I was in a good place where I could do that.
 I was here at the inn, you know, the bed and breakfast and I was exploring the other avenues
 of alternative healing.
 And that's actually the summary, M.A.B.E.
 Uh-huh.
 What kinds of things that you and Bobbi have pursued and that alternative treatments do
 you think represent the future of real medicine, healing medicine as opposed to sick maintenance
 medicine?
 Yeah.
 Well, preventative medicine, detoxification.
 One thing that we focus on is environmental medicine.
 So it or detoxing our bodies from things in our environment like heavy metals.
 How do we get heavy metals in our system?
 What is it that has made us so full of heavy metals?
 Chemtrails are one.
 Okay.
 Okay.
 Well, here we go.
 The metals in the air that are going into the ground, that are going into the food.
 And the water, also the water is contaminated.
 And certainly the soil, are there ways of testing this?
 Are there ways individuals can get a readout on how toxic or non-toxic the things are that
 they're...
 For water, yes.
 Yes.
 Absolutely.
 You can test your water.
 What do you test it for?
 Heavy metals.
 Okay.
 And chlorine content, fluoride.
 Uh-huh.
 You want to avoid ingesting heavy metals as much as possible.
 Right.
 There's of course vaccinations and many of us have had many of those growing up.
 And so that accumulates mercury in our teeth, mercury fillings.
 Even after they're taken out, if they weren't taken out properly, then there could be...
 There's any pieces.
 Yeah.
 There's a lot of ways to chelate.
 And if anyone's wanting to chelate, they should definitely talk to a trusted medical professional.
 What do you focus on?
 There's IV ways to chelate to take heavy metals out of the blood through IV therapy.
 And some of the things that we can do, I like to do a xyla jit.
 Have you guys ever heard of xyla jit?
 No.
 It's a resin and it comes from a tree and it has 84 trace minerals and it also has chelating
 agents in it.
 And it's just really, really good for your body.
 And anything green like chlorophyll or fresh microgreens.
 But these are things you can eat.
 Yes.
 Cilantro is amazing for mercury that helps that binds to mercury.
 So a real clean, healthy diet full of fruits and vegetables is a good way to chelate.
 Saunas are a great way for aluminum.
 And many of us, we do a test called the oligoscan and it's scanned on your palm and it measures
 the intracellular and the extracellular amount of heavy metals, which is a little different
 than a blood test because a blood test just measures the circulating blood, not what's
 inside the cell.
 Let's say the AI says, "Aligoscan is a non-invasive medical device that uses spectrophotometry
 to measure the levels of minerals, heavy metals, and trace elements in the body."
 Yep.
 That's it?
 Yep.
 And it measures for the light refractory.
 Passing light through tissue.
 Because they all, all the elements, they're all the periodic table.
 And so they...
 And they measure the optical density of the elements in real time.
 Yep.
 Okay, get it.
 AI is on.
 It takes a few minutes.
 It can be performed on children who are two years and older.
 Results are immediate.
 Yes.
 Most people, like 95% of people do have higher aluminum levels.
 We believe that's mainly from the chemtrails and that can get in the water.
 And not aluminum foil?
 Aluminum foil, that contributes using aluminum.
 Oh, also cookware.
 Leeches, heavy metals.
 Yes.
 Or cast iron, not good for you.
 Not good for you.
 Okay, so those kinds of...
 Undrawing godor.
 Oh, yes.
 Yes.
 Any type of antiperspirant with aluminum in it.
 That goes right into your lymph nodes or right there.
 Yeah.
 All right.
 So the future of health is detoxing.
 That's one thing.
 That's one thing.
 Really, the future, future for what I envision is really, we're all just back to nature.
 And nature has all the answers and our bodies are part of that.
 And we can heal ourselves.
 That's what I envision really, truly being able to heal ourselves.
 Self-healing.
 Self-healing.
 Yup.
 And sound healing or frequency, like using frequency to heal the body.
 Do you have experiences with sound healing?
 I have experiences with like crystal bowl healing.
 Not a whole lot of experience, but from what I've read like ancient Lemaria, these are
 the techniques they use in, or Atlantis.
 That's for us.
 Yeah.
 I think that's what we're going to be seeing.
 I certainly have spoken with many people who use singing bowls and things like that for
 their part of their healing process.
 I can think of one woman who thought of it as the reason why she had reversed her cancer.
 It's such a complex thing of why people restore their health.
 Yes, it is complex.
 There's so many things that have to be healed.
 Your thoughts, your body, your habits, your environment.
 Right.
 Yes.
 Like, why did my soul create this for me to experience?
 Yeah.
 That's it.
 And what do I need to figure out to have a better experience?
 Yes, right.
 Right.
 So that's one of the themes of modern metaphysics is how much do we create our own reality?
 Are we fully responsible for creating reality or what?
 Is it a shared thing?
 How's it going?
 You had a really great quote on that this morning.
 Alfred, Naseem Harameed.
 Yeah.
 Which he's so many friends with and I really admire his poetic nature and his deep pursuit
 of understanding science.
 And he was talking about how people believe that we create our own reality, right?
 That's a popular kind of cliche.
 Yeah.
 Or is it a simulation?
 Well, that's not a
 But the idea of creating your own reality is limited by the fact that you are in a reality.
 And so your creation of that reality just goes out to your own threshold of participating
 in that reality that you're inside of.
 And then the reality itself interacts and engages with that creation force that you
 put out.
 And I thought that was a very same way of looking at our ability to create reality.
 We're not alone.
 We're not the only thing in reality.
 And we do have an influence and effort counts and
 It's a co-creative.
 It's a co-crosses thing, right?
 And you know, I believe as when we enter into this reality, we know what we're entering
 into.
 Sure.
 That's crazy sometimes when I think about it, I'm like, wow, what was I thinking?
 Like, you really completely forget the veil of forgetfulness.
 You know, as we enter this reality in simulation.
 Yeah.
 Do you find that there are any ways or techniques or opportunities to regain that aspect of
 your awareness that you forget so that you can be here?
 Do you have a connection to it?
 Yeah, you know, that has been my mission, part of my mission.
 I am remembering and it's in the way I feel when I resonate with things.
 Yeah.
 I went to healing hypnosis session and it validated that I volunteered for this.
 Were you worried that you somehow got drafted?
 Well, I volunteered.
 I was happy to help.
 That's what I remember and I was not in a human form.
 I was on another planet and it was peaceful and loving.
 So it's a kind of a template from which you create reality from them.
 Yes, yes, it does.
 Oh.
 Yeah.
 So you hold that vision and it helps bring it into this world.
 It does.
 Yeah, that's how we create, right?
 Yeah.
 I think you have such a strong recognition of that LaMurian roots like that and it's
 getting stronger by actually practicing your alternative healing techniques.
 Oh, yes.
 And it's really all about like becoming heart centered and what we can generate with the
 power of our hearts.
 The power of love.
 The power of love, yes.
 Sure.
 Like heart love, that unconditional.
 Yeah.
 Yeah.
 What I love about the heart nature is the way that the metaphor of the heart cells and
 the way that I think it was Bruce Liston pointed out that if you put cells from a heart in
 a little petri dish, one of them will start pulsing and then they all will start pulsing
 as if they're all picking up on the same vibration.
 Yeah.
 So they just have that natural resonance with each other and that's what coming from the
 heart to me really means.
 It means that we're finding that resonance with each other where we are hearing the same
 reality.
 We're responding to the same vibrations and those are the vibrations that are the most
 important ones.
 They're emotional.
 Yes.
 In my case, usually joyful.
 Other people have maybe other emotions that they resonate with.
 Yep.
 That heart is that unity vibe.
 Yes.
 The first cells in the human body to form are the fetal heart.
 Really?
 Yeah.
 I didn't know that.
 Wow.
 And I learned that through the HeartMath Institute.
 Well, not nursing school.
 Yeah, that's our neighborhood.
 Yeah.
 We take walks by there all the time.
 Awesome.
 Yeah.
 Maria wants to know whether or not that you found any spiritual men in this community.
 About Chester.
 Yes, there are.
 I mean, it's certainly more women.
 But yeah, absolutely.
 There's men that are getting it too.
 Oh, absolutely.
 And you know, being here at the bed and breakfast is that's where I get to meet.
 I met someone from Denmark and he did not plan to come to Shasta.
 He planned to go to Ashland actually and he said he was detoured here.
 He didn't know about the spiritual significance of the mountain and he was just so drawn.
 And you were able to talk to him about this?
 Yep.
 And he was so intrigued and he did a session with me and he was really surprised to see
 I have a parmahansa, Yogananda picture and he resonated with that and he just really
 was like, wow, I see why I was drawn here to this place.
 This bed and breakfast and to Shasta.
 And it's so fun to hear how people are drawn to the mountain.
 He had never heard of it before.
 Yeah.
 Well, the native people thought of Shasta as one of the great guardian mountains.
 And I think they came here specifically for initiations and what envisioned class.
 And of course, modern natives such as ourselves find that same being.
 I have always felt like Shasta is actually this earth god man woman being.
 Yes.
 That is very playful, very loving, very loving, nurturing.
 Happy to see every living creature.
 Yes.
 I believe that there's a powerful heart opening when you come to Shasta for the first time
 and you come and you're meant to be here.
 Yeah.
 You can just feel it or just as.
 Yeah, you can feel it.
 Yeah.
 And all the stories I've heard from people who have come here.
 Yeah.
 Well, talking about stories now, a lot of people say.
 I feel like coming home.
 Yes.
 Oh my gosh.
 That I've titled my trip here when I moved out here, my journey home.
 And really because Shasta brought me back to that God source within me and I healed that
 relationship and just have never felt more connected to God than ever before.
 Beautiful.
 You think there's a cosmic search engine we have access to here in Shasta?
 Yeah, especially.
 Yeah, absolutely.
 Yeah, like that cosmic search engine.
 As for what you want to know and they'll come in.
 Yeah, I was asking too back.
 I was asking and I couldn't imagine that these were the answers.
 All right.
 We're almost to the end of the shows.
 It's a silly time to bring this up.
 But we were talking about extraterrestrials and Shasta.
 I just wanted to know what other strange attractive I said.
 Oh, yes.
 UFO conference every summer in July.
 You go to it yourself.
 I go to some of the speakers.
 I did it with a group.
 We did it with night vision goggles.
 Wow.
 What you can see with night vision goggles, I mean, you can see activity on the mountain
 in the sky without the goggles.
 But with the goggles, there's a lot of traffic out there.
 And so you saw them.
 Wow.
 I've heard you can, that there are all kinds of interesting fast moving objects in the
 upper atmosphere.
 There are.
 There absolutely are.
 Yep.
 I've asked the benevolent ETs.
 That's, you know, really, I would love to be taken in the far tour and you ship.
 Like, come back.
 That would be kind of cool.
 You have to go for a saucer ride.
 Yes, I want to go up into a plating ship.
 The good ones.
 The good ones, yes.
 Okay.
 All right.
 Well, and your bed and breakfast.
 Tell us a little bit about this.
 I have a small, beautiful bed and breakfast here in Mount Shasta.
 Four guest rooms called Mary's Inn and Mount Shasta Retreat.
 And I will be doing wellness retreats at some point this summer and fall and yeah.
 Four people at a time?
 Four guest rooms.
 Two people to a room.
 I have king beds.
 Other beautiful rooms, I must say.
 Yeah.
 You know, it's a bit of a departure from the corporate scene.
 Very nice.
 It's a wonderful healing, homey space.
 Yeah, very beautiful nature all around.
 Yes.
 We had views of the mountain and you have a sacred garden.
 Two pictures.
 I know it's with all kinds of little sacred statues.
 My fairy garden.
 Lots of fairy gnome activity here.
 And dragon activity.
 Yeah, when I get in touch with those aspects of your being, this is the place.
 Yes.
 You want the magic to accelerate?
 Come here.
 That's it.
 Well, thank you so much, Mary.
 It's been a pleasure having you on.
 Thank you for having me.
 This was fun.
 Thank you.
 Oh, there's a website.
 Mary's in Mount Shasta.com.
 Mary's in Mount Shasta.com and you are Mary.
 I am Mary.
 Oh.
 And as Mary's, I am Anne.
 Wonderful.
 Well, thank you so much.
 Thank you, Bobby, for being out there.
 Yeah, thank you.
 Wow.
 I'm going to stay at your place next time.
 Awesome, Bobby.
 It looks forward to meeting you and first.
 And thanks everybody out there.
 Have a great future now.
 Yeah.
 Until next week, probably be home.
 Yeah, for sure.
 All right.
 Happy Eclipse.
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