[ Music ] >> And welcome back to the future. >> Here we are. >> Splashdown. >> Splashdown. >> It's lovely. >> NASA's SpaceX crew just landed. It's some more space men back on Earth today. >> Welcome home astronauts. >> Well guys, 199 days in orbit, back to good old planet Earth. My understanding is that once you get back, it's kind of hard to walk again. But to discuss this further, we have Mrs. Future in the studio. >> Sure. >> AKA Sun. >> I can say something to that. >> Yes, she can indeed. >> It can be hard to walk. It got hard to walk after our road trip last year, and that was just sitting in a car, driving across country. >> That's our one. >> Imagine that on a space station, right? >> Going from zero gravity to one G. >> All right. >> Hey, Bobby. Bobby, our science correspondent in San Fran. >> I'm here in San Francisco. Here you are, Claire. >> So zero gravity, Bobby, would you like to experience it? >> I would. I really would. As long as I don't have to go in the vomit comet. >> Aww. >> Well, I do think it's a good start. >> I've always wanted to do that. I always imagined setting it up with a bunch of trampolines around the side so that you could bounce on the walls. I thought that would be a really fun way to do it. >> They do have powdered walls in there on the plane. >> Yeah. Yeah. So it needs to be a ride. It needs to be something that you can play while you're up there. >> I understand for a fraction of the cost, you can have as much zero gravity time as you do on a couple of the commercial projects. >> So the commercial space flights, like Blue Origin, I think you're 11 minutes from takeoff to landing. >> Mm-hmm. >> And you have a-- >> Mm-hmm. >> What is it, 250,000? Maybe more? >> 250,000. I think the vomit comet's only like five grams. >> Yeah, it was only five to go up on a plane. [laughter] Not quite as far, but they simulate it. It's more like a roller coaster ride on the top of the atmosphere. >> Well, look, the whole thing is a simulation. If you want to look at it that way. >> What are you talking about? >> I'm saying that the zero gravity effect that you experience in the plane is every bit as real as the one in space. >> Oh, sure. Right. Yeah, you're finding that zero-g moment. >> Yeah, yeah, exactly. The local artist we had worked with earlier this century who had done it quite frequently. >> Frank Pintranagro. >> Yeah, he kind of enjoyed it. >> Yeah. >> He was doing a big flag thing in zero gravity and having a great time with it. >> Yeah, yeah, he was in the Wikipedia, it's called the very first space artist because he put in his application to go up on the vomit comet, which before they called it that, but when it was the only way that you could experience zero gravity in the 90s. And he was the only person who was approved who was not literally military or science based or some kind of official astronaut capacity. He was a space artist. And he went up there with his paints and did some kind of Jackson Pollock-esque painting inside of a bubble while he was up there. >> Yes, and you imagine in your inside a giant plastic bubble and you're floating around and it bouncing off the sides, what kind of painting makes sense? >> A chaotic. This is what painting in zero-g looks like. It doesn't work. >> This is what painting looks like if you're a bubble. Yeah, all in honor of Splashdown, NASA's SpaceX crew back on Earth. Welcome back, guys. After 199 days of this zero gravity, welcome back to gravity. >> I'm sure Earth looks better than ever. Now that you're back. >> Right. I think some of them might have been women too, Jasmine, Jasmine, for European Space Agency. >> Mm-hmm. >> Andreas. >> No, that's a man. >> That's his? Okay. Satoshi, Furukawa, and Ross Cosmos astronaut, Constantine Borisov. And Jaxa. It's really international crew. >> And they've been up there for about four months? >> 199 days. >> Oh, even more. >> Yeah. There's the third flight of the Dragon spacecraft, the Endurance, and it had taken up crew three and crew five. Now it's going to be refurbished. Get ready for its next flight. >> That's amazing. >> Yeah. >> Yes, the goal. Safe, reliable, cost-effective transportation to the ISS, to and from. >> Well, Elon makes us proud. Even though people like to denounce him, he is a very -- he's so proud. He's something America can be very proud of. And the immigrant who loves our country and dedicates all his work to our greatness. >> Yeah, at least Elon's thing is working. There's a lot of stuff in the space program that is not working right now, but SpaceX is doing gangbusters. And so they provide the service to and from the space station. That's great. Now, maybe they can pick up the slack with NASA. NASA just had some of its budgets slashed for the Mars sample return mission. >> Right. And what was the reasoning for that? They didn't complete their stepping-stone mission, right? It wasn't a dependent on having the Artemis mission successful in order to launch the reconnaissance mission to Mars. >> Well, here's the goal. We have a ship there on the ground, a robot ship that's leaving little clusters of stuff to be FedExed back to the Earth. >> FedEx. >> Yeah. >> You're really giving FedEx a lot of credit here, Al. >> Yeah, it's a meme. It's a meme. It's like scotch tape. >> Right. It's not going to be googled back to Earth. It's going to be carried in some kind of delivery vehicle. >> NASA has figured out how to do that, but let's just say to have a robot ship come back to Mars, collect samples and take off with the samples is a whole McGilla. >> Yeah, trying to teach robots to dig in the sand in space is really challenging. >> Yeah. It's expensive. And it's easily slashed by senators and congressmen. >> Yeah, it's especially when they're all saying, "The lights aren't going to be turned on again because we're fighting over the budget. Let's cut NASA. Let's not go pick up those Mars samples after all. So expensive. Let's give ourselves a raise instead." >> Yeah. Yeah, we're... >> People stampeding the border and we want to pay billions to send rocks back to Earth? >> Sure. Yeah. Too bad they can't justify that the way they justify war. No jobs are... >> Wait a minute. You got an idea there. >> Oh, yeah. >> What's that? >> Well, one of Heinlein's future attacks in war was to throw giant rocks at specific cities. So, you know, if NASA brings back enough so that the military can do something like that, then maybe they'll pay for the mission. But then you're making deals with the devil, as some might say. Well, let's just say we're outsiders to that whole bubble, that whole consciousness that keeps creating as much waste and as much warfare and as much inequality as possible. Like, that's just not who we are. We're in the oneness, unity mind, peace on Earth, flowering of humanity, mindset. We're not here to destroy anybody or anything or to pretend like nobody's more powerful than we are. We're here to have a vision that everybody wants to be a part of. Yeah, and it doesn't cost that much. I think the entire budget for Cosmic New Age Consciousness in California is probably more closer to one helicopter. Uh-huh. You know, the entire... What is the budget for for the entire New Age consciousness? A billion dollars a year, maybe. A billion and maybe. What would the government spend that money on? Oh, helicopter? Or, you know, I mean, you're sending some rocks back from Mars. No, you're saying if all of the consciousness people were actually given the money to spend that we would somehow spend that billion dollars on getting rocks back from Mars? Well, what do you think, like the Institute of Noetic Sciences, would do with a hundred million dollars, for example? Oh, well, I'm sure that they would do their best to advance what we know scientifically. What would maps do? I think all of these research institutes basically come up with proposals for something that they want to study, and they convince someone with money to give it to them. That's how science progresses. It's a popularity contest. Yeah, yeah. Who's good at convincing who of what? Who do you have to convince? Yeah, the Human Drama, Human Comedy Act. Yeah. Okay, thanks, Richard. Yeah, a little update on the space thing. Bobby, you want to say something before I give you some feedback? You've got two hundred million dollars in November this year. Who got that? The study. The study for extraterrestrial intelligence. Two hundred million? Mm-hmm. Oh, wow. Yeah, it was who died? Somebody died and put it in their will. Yeah, that's true. Who died and gave us the money? Yeah, it's not a problem. Well, that's how no edict sciences gets a lot of their ideas. I know, right? I mean, these are your special interest groups. Right. When you don't need your money anymore, give it to research. Yeah. Otherwise, the government will take it and flush it down a toilet somewhere. Have a good use for it. Yeah. So, NASA's having their budget cut and the Mars return mission is going to suffer for that. I think it's kind of sad because we can learn a lot from the rocks and Mars. Well, we will. It'll just take a longer time for us to get there and explore them. Yeah. I mean, they'll tell us all about the atmosphere and the weather over time there. Maybe some of these neighborhood associations that volunteer and donate time and money to go and clean up the beach will come up with a budget to go and clean up the rocks that have been left on Mars because they like to go to the beach and collect rocks. Yes! It's a high-profile project. Any company that does that will get a lot of publicity, but it will take them figuring out a lot of the details and designing. You need special craft that can do this. Yeah. Getting onto a planet and off it again. We can barely do that on this planet. Yeah. I mean, we've landed things on Mars, but how many things have taken off from Mars? At this point. Only in the movies or only in our theory of life on Earth have things taken off from Mars when somehow giant explosions have liberated little spores of life to leave Mars and come here and see life, right? That's the only thing we've ever scientifically addressed as having gotten off the planet at Mars. This is just in. Starship third test flight on Thursday. Yay! That's right. It's Starship. Thanks. Starship is the mission that is slated to get people to Mars someday. It's one of Elon's big life goals. They've tested it twice successfully so far, right? And every time they learn something new. No, there's been five, I think, the Starship. Well, there've been a few that were blew up in mid-air, right? They were supposed to. Uh-huh. Sort of. Well, they were hoping that he wouldn't, right? But this is the first time they've been trying out this configuration of technology. Yeah. Something's bound to go wrong, but you learn a lot from every time something goes wrong. Yeah. That's how it evolves. Yeah, and it's the first time that we've watched a rocket that's shot up in space like that be allowed to just free fall back into the atmosphere and then adjust its trajectory and sort of repoint itself to its target. There's something very elegant and scary about it. Would you go up on it? Well, I have to wait until they get it right, obviously. Well, just so you know, the flight tests involved include 11 launches of prototypes on suborbital and low-altitude tests and two orbital trajectories of the entire launch with the prototype on top of super-heavy, first-stage booster before people will go up on them. Okay. So you're saying this next mission, they've got some other prototype missions that they're going to launch like they do from the Falcons? 11 launches of prototypes. Oh, boy. Usually it's just been trying to get the Starship off the planet and then see how well they can navigate it once it's up there. That's a little down the line before they get it. But the last one that I think about it was an attempt at an orbital. Mm-hmm. Yeah. If this is successful, then flight tests could begin to happen for crude flights. Oh, boy. Yeah. Well, it's very exciting. If they are doing a launch tomorrow or Thursday, I suggest we watch because it could be yet another historic milestone in the space program. [applause] Yeah. Elon's also in the news this week for his AI. Oh, Groc. On X, the XAI Groc, right exactly. Well, I mean, one thing he's in the news with AI is his lawsuit against OpenAI and Sam Altman, who he basically has accused of betraying the cause and failing to acknowledge that artificial general intelligence has been invented and does exist. And he's challenging the jury of this lawsuit to define artificial general intelligence. It hasn't really been defined yet. It's a fairly loose term. Yeah. From what I can discern from all of this. Right. It would appear that the intelligence could get better, but where do you draw the line? Right now, a lot of the AIs would pass a Turing test. Mm-hmm. Yeah, a lot of people feel like they're getting an ally with their AIs. Teachers are using them to grade tests. That's another story. Writers are using them to generate plots and creatives are using them to generate film clips and follow up in the map. We're using it to make little short science fiction movies. Yeah, we're having a lot of fun with the AIs. We turn in ourselves and our friends into avatars as we cast them in fun little movies. Yeah, Bobby, we need to get some pictures of you. You know, do you like to be one of our avatars? Sure, yeah. Yeah, okay. You're just a fanist. Yeah, yes. And we need 10 or 20. Yeah, mostly front-facing. Not a lot of teeth, not a lot of glasses, no hats. No headphones. You can wear clothes, though. Yeah. And, you know, basically head and shoulders or mid shots. Some smiling, mostly not smiling. Side shots profiles. Couple profiles, yeah. Yeah. You can be one of our AIs avatars. We'll put you on the starship. Yeah, that's our first story, actually, is a first contract. It's called. We have it up on YouTube now. Yeah, we're very proud of ourselves that we managed to put together a cute little movie with our friends. Yeah, should I play a minute of it? Oh, hey, you're among friends, me as well. Yeah, I'm still, yeah, I might as well, because we talked about it. And Taylor, who's coming on in five minutes to talk about all things Apple, the latest stuff that's coming in there, he just saw it and he wants to give us his feedback. Oh, good. So we may as well play it for people here. Yeah, how much of it should we play, do you think? Well, you know, it's really much more special when you see it. So I think we should just give people a taste, maybe one minute, and then tell them where they can go view it on YouTube. Right? Wouldn't that be the best? Yeah, that's one thing. And when we're ready to launch our next episode, we'll do a big launch and tell all our friends to go watch it and then post the next episode. Yeah. Okay. Right now it's kind of just over a work in progress. And it is the new AI to video technologies that we're playing with. And that is completely transforming the media world to be able to describe a scene and then have it created right before you. Here we go. First contract. This is the title sequence for First Contract. Welcome to First Contract. We travel from planet to planets, mind to bodies, making deals with the locals everywhere. Our first contract involves an Enthiogenic Rainforest Civilization on planet Aoya 42, Dimension 7. Our goal is to obtain a supply of a Bundecon, a mycelial that works for both biologicals and synthetic life forms alike. For the best contract possible, we'll be using avatar bodies and clothes respected by the locals. Ready for First Contract with this civilization? Alright, let's go. That's a good story. Now let's get to meet one of the, meet you, okay? This is where we're landing on the spaceship on this jungle planet. Now we meet Sun around the fire, which is local. Greetings, I am the spirit keeper here. What is your business? Why are you contacting us? Greetings, spirit keeper. I'm not simply playing around. I come to you from the great central sun that nourishes all life. Sadly, many of my kind have fallen into despair, forgetting our deep connection with the oneness of life. My people are in need of your magical substance, a Bundecon, which awakens all who experience it to the truth of universal connection and access to the cosmic search engine. And in exchange, we offer you something of equal value. A Bundecon is one of our greatest treasures, highly valued. I will take you to our queen so you can make your case. Get it out, you got to see the queen a believer. Yeah, so anyway, that's just a little teaser for y'all. 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We've already in into it for three months now. So what's hot with Apple, the Apple universe, Taylor? Apple Vision Pro. The main thing, huh? I have had one friend who's called me on it and we had a chance to see what it looks like virtually. That was kind of fun. It looks to me like it's super expensive, right? That's one of the big problems about that. If you buy the one terabyte model and you add the Apple care and the sales tax, it's really $5,000. It's a $5,000 investment. Yeah, it's not $3,500. There was a piece on YouTube, one of the guys talking about this, who pointed out that in a way, this is like an old strategy of apples to put out a real expensive thing. He suggested that we look back in time at the introduction of the Lisa computer because the Lisa was the first graphics interface that preceded the Mac and sort of set the stage for the machines that we're all using today. Let me give you an example. Yeah, but it's $10,000. $28K, which was what it was to begin with, cost me $7,000 developer price. Exactly. Super expensive. I think the Lisa was $10,000. Yeah, the Lisa was $10,000. This was for $2,128K, Max. For $2,128K, so the Max was-- Yeah, so there were like $3,500 for a $1,128K, Max. Yeah. So, the Apple Vision Pro is an M2 computer. It's not an M3 computer. So there's room to grow. Exactly. It's a shot across the bow. It's an introduction of a whole new kind of computer. Well, you got to get the developers involved. Developers have got to create killer application that will drive sales of the next generation Apple Vision Pro, which should be less expensive. And even more magical. Yes, they like to say that. Well, the opinion varies a lot, but I've seen front page tech, for example, says that it's the only way you can see the future. What impressed me in terms of what you could experience was how it could take you there. You could be in immersive environments and feel like you're in the Sahara Desert and feeling the sand blowing through the wind and experience that becoming your reality with every dayness just fading away. People are just blown away by that experience, that cinematic envelopment that seems to be possible with the Apple Vision Pro. I'm kind of curious what the difference is between the Apple Vision Pro and say the existing headsets that people are familiar with. Say the meta quest versions or halo or vibe. Like how is Apple making this experience different? John Prosser from front page tech did this most recent essay. It's the only Apple Vision Pro review you'll need to see. And he says there's no comparison. He says that the Apple Vision Pro is radically better, radically superior to the quest. He has used them all. He said the Apple Vision Pro is completely different class. Yeah, it seemed like the resolution was more beautiful and higher quality and that the audio it sounded like the audio design was just a whole new immersive experience that had not really been achieved before where you can tune in or out as much of your existing real world environment as you want, which allows you to be more immersed in the cinematic experience or more mixed so that you can hear other people in the room. For instance, when tech has done several segments on the Apple Vision Pro and they wanted to return their Apple Vision Pro's but they wound up not being able to because they got so hooked on them. Yeah. So what do you hear is popular? What experiences are people really into? What's popular with me is a 65 inch cutie OLED television set that's only six feet away from me. So that's where I know you like a big screen better than an Apple Vision Pro. Right there. Yeah, you like seeing through your eyes. I'm looking at big screens rather than floating images. So we get a 95 K from last year is the absolutely most amazing television set. If anybody gets the chance to get one or the 895 L cutie OLED televisions are absolutely worth the extra money. And what's the extra money? What do they cost? It's spent 3500 for mine, I think that was the deal and then I also got the surround system, the audio surround system for another 1500 bucks. I see. So you didn't go for an Apple Vision Pro. You decided to immerse yourself in the whole room. No, this is last year. My TV broke. I had to buy a new TV last summer of 22 rather. So two thirds of the way through my 139 month no interest payments. Now you are a TV aficionado to the max. Yeah, I'm TV crazy. It's my Mac for television. You use your Mac for TV too. Yeah. I'm going to make to watch extra television channels while I'm watching the cutie OLED as my primary. Well, what's your data? Especially if it's really great during football season because you can watch three games. Well, you can watch all the games on the 65 inch through red zone and then you can watch two other games that are being fed by the networks, the broadcast networks on the other two screens that my M to pro Mac mini is driving. So do you still feel like you are up on all the latest gear or is your expertise switching now more to all the latest TV shows that you like? Oh, I could go on and on about the latest TV shows. Yeah. We don't have time for that. Do you watch the Oscars? Of course. Did you watch the red carpet? Yeah, I watched the whole thing the entire 12 hours. Yeah, really. Wow. There was a 13. The whole thing. I think it was 10. So what's your average daily screen time, may I ask? Oh, I'll tell you what, I spend a lot of I spend about half my screen time watching YouTube on TV. YouTube. Yeah. Not rumble. YouTube channel on my Roku. Fantastic. I can get every little bit of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey. Every little morsel of their appearances. Oh, so you're a Swiftie, huh? I'm crazy. He's a serious Swiftie. Yeah, I got into her music in the last couple of weeks. Her concert album, a concert movie drops on Disney Plus Thursday. It's probably going to break the internet. The last couple of weeks? Wait a minute. Your music is the last thing that attracted you to her? Yeah, the first thing I'm trying to do to me was her work ethic. She's unbelievable. She's a bigger, she's much more of an athlete than Travis Kelsey ever thought about being. She is, yeah, she's singing and dancing for three and a half hours a night, consecutive nights, three or four consecutive nights, and then she'll take a short break and go another three or four consecutive nights. I mean, it's unbelievable what she's doing. She's only halfway through the tour in May. She goes to Paris and then Spain and then Sweden and then England and then later on, she goes back to England after she goes to a whole bunch of other countries after England. That's incredible as she finishes up in Vancouver, Canada. I assume all the venues are giant stadiums. Do you ever fantasize about getting yourself some tickets going to the live show? Taylor, you ever fantasize that you're going to go see her in a live show? No, too expensive. I can't understand that kind of expensive. Flat screen's been. Big giant. Absolutely. Yeah, in fact, I didn't even buy the concert movies. I'm waiting for Disney Plus release on Thursday. Yeah. Who gets the best shots? You might as well stay at home and get the best of you. Yeah, they shot her movie at sci-fi. It's called "Sophiax Eighties in Los Angeles" last summer. Taylor, how much do you think Taylor Swift makes on each one? She makes $25 million per concert. Per concert? Yeah. And how many concerts in a year she's going to do? I don't remember. It's got to be close to 200, sure, exactly. But that's why she's a billionaire. Basically, by one word. Wow. Does Travis travel with her? Lately, yeah. He flew down to-- he lets him use her plane. She owns two jets. So he went to Sydney and then went back to LA and then he went to Singapore. He saw one concert in Sydney, the last concert in Sydney and the last two in Singapore. Now they're back in LA. Wow. They were able to attend the Madonna's party. Are we going to spend this whole segment on Taylor Swift? Come on. No, no, no. I was going to switch it back to the tech. Yeah. OK. You're so excited about it. We're just taking it in. We're just taking it in. Not them. They're just absolutely the biggest power couple we've ever had in the history of America. Well, Richard, Dan and Long Beach is wondering if you have a crush on her. Every time I see her, I-- yeah. Sure. Sure, Richard. Who wouldn't just take a look at her? She's like the most beautiful-- I don't know, from a Caucasian's point of view. She's the most beautiful woman I've ever seen. Again, they get enough of looking at her. And it's not just her looks. It's her personality. I don't want to-- don't get me started. You got me started now. OK. OK. We'll move on here. OK. The M3 airs were released yesterday or Monday. M3 airs. That's the latest laptop from Apple. M3 airs just came out 13 and 15 inch. You know, this whole M1, M2, M3 air debate, it really has to do with the M3. With what you've got and what you're doing. Well, what's the debate for the uninitiated? What's the debate between one, two, and three? Well, if you're not doing anything spectacular other than writing or taxes or something like that or web browsing, the M1 air is just fine. Now, Apple just cut that off, by the way. That's not on the list anymore. You can only buy an M2 air. I'll say so. The M1s are the-- So when they release the M3 air, they stop selling the M1 air. Although you can still get it on the refurbished page and you can get it on eBay and you can get all kinds of M1s on eBay. Sure, sure. Used. And some of the dealers still have M1s. They're selling out. The sellout price for a new M1 airs is $750. Now, remember, these are only computers with 8 gigabytes of RAM and 256 of storage, SSD storage. So they're pretty weak. You want to bump that up a little bit then. Yeah, you're better off with a 16 gig anything, air especially. There's quite a bit of difference in performance between an 8 and 16 gig. And cost between an 8 and 16. If you're going beyond word processing and web browsing, I mean. Yeah, if you're doing any graphics animation for some-- Yeah, graphics and video editing and that sort of. The M2 and the M3, they're very similar. The M3 will throttle a little bit more than the M2, but the temperatures are about the same. In terms of performance, I guess that depends on how much you're pushing it, the video editing or animation. Yeah, Mac's tech says you should buy a 14 inch Mac Pro M3. Yeah. Because of the throttling that you would have with the M3 Air. But if you're not doing those-- If you don't care about the-- If you care about silence more than you do about the fan. Right. And it is a bigger screen. We're talking about the 15 inch MacBook Air. All right. Well, let me ask you a pragmatic question. It's still only 60 Hertz though. Would it be quiet and easily be able to do full screen YouTube 4K? Oh, yeah. They only throttle when you start rendering in a video editor. Okay, so only in production. But they're still only 60 Hertz. If you want 120 Hertz, you got to get a Pro. Okay, 120-- That's one of the big differences. And screens, yeah, because 60 Hertz is not a part. But what do you notice between-- How would you notice it's a 120 screen over a 60 Hertz screen? How can you tell? It's more fluid at 120. It's more fluid. Okay. But it uses more processing bar, eats the battery more when you're at 20. Yeah, so you're buying yourself some fluidity in your image, in your motions. Yeah. So, in the first version, the 15-inch MacBook Air would be the way I would go if I use MacBooks, which I don't-- All right, let's move on. There's other stuff to talk about. People are going to have to do their own research. We can't really recommend anything. It's just too-- Too individualized, too personal. Too variable. Right, right. Depends on what you're doing, what you've got, where you're going, if you think you're going, or if you're gone. Whatever. Let's talk about the process of roadmap. You mean from the M1, M2, M3? It's the beginning of three nanometers now. We've got the three nanometer A17 Pro chip inside our iPhone 15 Pro Maxes. And Pro Maxes. Yeah. But that's the first three nanometer chip processor in a computer besides the M3 and the MC Pro. And some three nanometers. Those are all three nanometers. For those two on the scene. One second. You're on the scene. The smaller the nanometers, the better. And they've been going constantly getting skier and skier. Faster, denser, more transistor. And where the transition now from five to three. Five to three, that's why. Five nanometers. And next is three to two. Three to two. Okay. And right now. Well, no, the next is three first generation to three third generation. They're leaping to third generation three. Before they jump to two. Before they jump to first generation two in September of 25 with the A19 Pro. That's the time. In the iPhone 18. So we're currently at iPhone 15. This fall is the 16. Next fall is the iPhone 17 A19 Pro. It's hard to keep it straight because you have different numbers for depending on the processor. Anyway. I'm sure Taylor Swift look at the 18 Pro. Is the the neural engines in these phones. Yeah. Also in the new M4s that are maybe coming out. But when you have more neural processors. Right now if you get an ultra or something phone you're going to get 16. Yeah. In the Pro Max and the M3 processors. The M3 Ultra is two of those. So he's 32 when you get an ultra. The M3 Ultra isn't going to be out till June. So what's going to happen is we're going to have Siri version two out. And it's going to do what chat GBT does now. But instead of processing in the cloud, you're going to be processing on the phone. So it's going to be local processing. Aot on the edge is what's happening. And so that way you could have your phone in airplane mode and still ask it questions about you or whatever you own on your phone. And it would reply in airplane mode and all the processing will be done in your hand. So that's when you double or triple the number of neural engines and you have the processing done locally. So that's what I'm excited about. So I'm hoping in June they're going to announce Siri to and then in the fall they're going to have a new A18 processor that's going to be on the Apple 16 phone, iPhone 16. And all this processing will be in your hand instead of in the cloud as today. Well not instead of as well as what you think. Yeah. But then you don't have to share whatever you're saying to a Microsoft servers or Google servers or Apple servers. More security by having local local. Yeah. You can have a private conversation with your phone. Yeah. And nobody else can hear it. Okay. So privacy issues. Yeah. Wow. So Bobby's all Twitter about AI the coming AI. Not what is what is about to be. Let's talk briefly for a moment just what's coming up in June at the WWDC 2024. It's going to be the Mac studio which will include the M3 Ultra and the Vision OS 2.0 which will be for the Vision Pro, Apple Vision Pro and the iOS 18 for the phones and iPads. Apple AI that's going to be a separate subject. Apple AI. Yeah. Apple hasn't really gotten into the AI thing as much as well. Well that's not what they say. They bought a whole bunch of AI companies. They're not publishing something called AI. Just the way it works is powered by AI. Just have a Bobby thinks. No. They're going to make a big splash about it at WWDC. Really? It's going to announce AI. They're going to jump on it. Yeah. It's not going to be in secret son. They're going to go whoopty do. Why do we buy all these companies because of this? And then the curtain is going to open and show us something we can't believe. Elle, what about that video? We got to talk about your video. Well hold on a second. Bobby has one other comment on this. Let's see. I'll tell you the one. Working on AI in the background for a long time, for over 10 years. And they just haven't ironed out all the problems just yet but they're going to leapfrog and take over what, because Samsung announces they have AI on their phones now and their max ultra phones. Yeah, it's everywhere. It's everywhere. Yeah. But it's just, it's not that Apple's just sitting back. No, they've been working on this in the background. Yeah, sure. Yeah. So you think they're going to make a big splash with a new product? They bought like 32 AI companies just in the last year. 32 AI companies in the last year. More than anybody else. Yeah. More than anybody else. Yeah. It's not ignoring it. They're just biting their time. Kind of like Trump who didn't bother to participate in all the things. And the debates, why get into the AI fray when you don't have to when you know you've got it. Yeah, it's just like Trump. Yeah, exactly like Trump. Your favorite. Well, that's the other thing is that the AI is getting into, you know, heavily into the political world in so many ways. And so is Taylor Swift, your little Swiftie yourself, she's super Biden, right? And she's going to make sure that Trump doesn't get in. I'm not going to put any words in Taylor Swift's mouth. No, but as a Swiftie, is she giving you marching orders on how to not yet? Not yet. What I think she said, don't vote for Trump, something like that. Yeah, she didn't say go out there and support Biden. She didn't say anything. I don't think so. I don't I don't follow her. I don't know if I'm not sure what every word she says. I go by rumors. I'm I watch a bunch of rumor videos on YouTube. I don't really know what she's doing directly. Yeah, of course. Unless they get to see a glimpse of her at the Grammys or something like that. Yeah. She's got a new album dropping April 19 in case anybody cares. April 19. She put out a name for it yet? Oh, sure. It's the poet, the poet, something department. So outside my range. Yeah. That's something we usually talk about, Tilly. Sorry. You're into it. You know, that's the important thing. I'm deep into it. I'm a sucker. I'm a sucker for the whole Taylor Swift genre. I like hearing you talk about something really popular that you're into. It's really very humanizing. Yes. Does she use a Mac? Is she into Apple Vision Pro? I'm sure. Yeah. Of course. She's got an iPhone like everybody else in her generation. You know that 98% of the teenagers have iPhones? No, it's got an iPhone. Which means the future for the iPhone is that all adults will have iPhones. Yeah, not. Almost. Almost nobody will have an Android phone. Well, actually the things that I'm reading in terms of cultural trends are we're in this historic moment where this is the first generation of digital natives, but it happens to be focused on phones, but the phone phenomenon is not where it's going to end up. Just like the screen phenomenon is not where it ended up. It's going to be so ubiquitous that it's going to be like the Matrix. We're going to be walking through digital worlds where everything is connected to everything. The album is called the Tortured Poets Department. Oh, there. Great. You found it. Great. God, Google. Did you use Google to find that? No, I used DuckDuck Pro. Oh, okay. DuckDuckGo or whatever it's called. Right. DuckDuckGo. Okay. Giving them a run for the money. Uh-huh. Giving them a plug. Uh-huh. Great. Yeah, I just got a picture for you. Yeah. Yeah, a photo, yeah, this is an elitist shot of a tailor that's related to this. There you go. And we'll describe it. We are on the radio here. You know, sending pictures and not telling us what we're seeing is a betrayal. Oh. She is just twice as beautiful as she used to be when she was in her 20s. She's 34 now. She is absolutely gone beyond cute. This is her political t-shirt where it spells out nope. I'll capitalize on the letters and then underneath it, not again. But the O is dressed up as Trump with the head with the hair. Now, that's from four years ago. Really? These four years more beautiful than that. Really? You can believe it. It's hard to believe. I know. That's why I watch them all. These are all these great, fantastic photographs, recent photographs. Just blows your mind. And when you see her perform, you know, all of her concerts are live streamed. You can watch them all. I watched all of Sydney. Well, not all, but I watched the Sydney concerts and I watched the Singapore concerts. It's just unbelievable what she does. Absolutely unbelievable. She gets less credit than she deserves. I'm sure that most people don't understand what she's doing. It's just blows your mind. Can you imagine dancing and singing for three and a half hours a night? No. I don't want to do that. I'm not telling her. I'm not telling her. Listen, guys, we're going to say goodbye to Taylor, I think. We're down for the last 30 seconds here. OK, what about the movie? What about the movie? I'm just going to talk to you about our movie for a moment. I can't change time. I'm just telling you. I'll keep you on a while now to appeal to my own sensibilities. We'll bring a mic on for five minutes to talk about our little movie. Yeah. To the break. OK, hold on there, Taylor. Incredible. Bobby, we'll see you in a few. You're so handsome. All right. You're listening to Santa Cruz voice. All right. That's it. All in sight for now, Bobby and Taylor and the Peanut Gallery. And we'll be back after some news and sponsors. Bye. OK, welcome back. Now, I kept Taylor on specifically for the next segment, which he had a comment on our first contract, comedic sci-fi short that we played about half an hour ago. It's about intergalactic traders who create deals with civilizations across the universe and get them to sign contracts. So Taylor, what did you think? I thought it's incredible. Who thought of those words? There's so many words that you use in that movie that I've never heard before, never seen before. We thought of those. We wrote those. That's our creative juices. You think chatchie, you can take it. That's our secret sauce. People, everybody go to the Ellen Lindell channel, A-L-L-A-N-L-U-N-D-E-L-L channel on YouTube and watch that movie. It's incredible. Everybody's got to watch it. It's our first exposure. It's our first exposure. Mine. And you see this absolutely beautiful image of Elle. Oh, he's so handsome. Oh, thank you. Well, thank you for your positive review, Taylor. What did you think of Sun's avatar? Oh, fantastic. That looked like somebody else besides Sun, though. Oh, that was Gingey. Really beautiful. Gingey's amazing. Beautiful woman. Yeah, the whole thing was just a masterpiece, I thought. How about the tiger? Beautiful. Nothing wrong. The whole thing's perfect. Everybody should be a hit. You deserve a million hits. We are very pro AI ourselves. We seem to be liked by AI and we like the AI. So I predict that we will all be friends. How long does it isn't by this in the butt? We're good. When the Bobby says that AI is going to be the future, Bobby, come on. Chime in about how great the AI is going to be. AI. Yeah, it's going to be our assistant, our sidekick. No. It'll help write papers, whatever you want to do. Yeah, it'll help. Way to Friend has been playing with our system. We created a fake news broadcaster talking about how an AI is running for a senator and we should vote for him. So there's going to be a whole genre of they're starting to pass the Turing test and they're starting to do better than lawyers and illegal things. Well, how long before they start being politicians? I haven't heard this. You're saying that there's already an AI who's running for political office? No, it's fake news. But it's a second onion kind of level thing put out by our buddy Jim. Well, it won't be long. It won't be long. It doesn't wreck our election. I would hate to see DT get reelected. It seems like it could happen. I know. That's what I mean. But I'm afraid it's going to happen illegally, not on the up and up, thanks to Russia and China. Yeah. But look, everybody is an opportunist in this thing, but neither the Democrats or Republicans want to lose. I think the bottom line is we all better love our country and love our democracy and work together because we're the people who want to destroy never get tired of trying to destroy everything. And it's up to the people who want to hold it together to hold it together. Yeah, across the other republics have become quite an authoritarian party. They want authoritarianism. That's their majority opinion. One rule. Republican party. One rules are many rules. People out in the street saying, oh, yeah, if he's going to be a tyrant, that's what we need. We need a tyrant. Yeah, we saw the Daily Show. Yeah, with John Stewart. Exactly. He did a really good job making that point. I know. It's crazy. I'm so glad he's back on the air on Monday nights. Me too. I feel like he and Bill Maher give the best political commentary in America. I agree. Yeah, we are in a crossroads, but you have to reach across the aisle. Now, how many of your friends are on the other side of that aisle? Like for example, I was invited to a friend of mine whose party who said I could come as long as I wasn't a Trumpster. You know, you would actually ask me. He asked me strippetly. You asked me who did I vote for even? It wasn't even whether it was either Republican or Democrat. Well, I have to say my compromise, you know, I always have considered myself to be a very enlightened Christian where I just believe in peace and I believe in extending the hand of love and I believe in forgiveness and I believe in all these things that never dehumanize people. And we're in an era where I've been rejected just for saying things like that and the haters are in charge and a lot of my friends are way more interested in being haters than they are in having a conversation about how to be a civilized good person. And that's how it is right now. I agree with you. So if you can't have principles, you can't run a country that is based on principles. And if you're a cheater and a liar and if you use those skills to defame people, that's what's happening in politics is people. That's what the Republican party has become. Well, you can't say it's on one side because everybody who has a horse in the game and is intolerant of their competition is playing the same game. And as long as you're condoning people lying to get their way and cheating to win, it's not the Republicans against the Democrats. The liars against the people trying to see truth. I agree. Yeah. Here's a relevant piece here. The AIs have translated some speeches by Hitler into English and using his voice connotations and accent and in translating. Well, this is the danger of AI now. Yeah, this is it. And the idea is that if Hitler spoke English. Trump is probably using those translations because I've heard that he likes Hitler. Well, if you listen, I think you'll be surprised at the translation. Okay. This is one is rule in our case. This is a 30 second clip of how he's basically telling you to vote for him. Okay. Okay. Here we go. By the RMI. If you're rich against that's German. Yeah. Does it place it? It is a man. Thank you. My work for correctness. Whether you believe that I have been diligent. That I have worked that I have advocated for you in these years. That I have been decent. I have spent my time in service of my people. Now cast your vote. If yes, then stand up for me as I have stood up for you. All right. So that is a AI translation of a press clipping of candidate Adolf Hitler before he got elected. And if anything, when you hear it in English, he reminds me a lot of Zelensky. Elephant stem cells are being modified to bring back the woolly mammoth. Yeah, that's a nice insight to what's going on in our scientific communities. They're really mastering the ability to clone animals, including extinct ones. This article really makes the case not that we need woolly mammals so much as the case that we can regenerate extinct animals, even if we extincted them during our lifetimes. We'll somehow be able to use this genetic cloning technology to bring back the extinct ones. That's supposed to be a positive thing, right? Well, yeah, it's like Jurassic Park for real. The difference is that we're not just recreating the DNA from a dinosaur or from an ancient creature, but we're literally taking a modern creature like an elephant and basically doing a number of genetic undoes on the program. If you undo enough, a bird will become a dinosaur. That's a simplistic understanding of it, but it's analogous to that to some extent. And the woolly mammoth is not that far off. It's complicated in a sense that it is for our current technology, but it's doable. A company called Colossus Biosciences in Dallas is aiming to create a mammoth hybrid that looks exactly like a mammoth, reprogramming the cells of an Asian elephant. And the Asian elephant is the closest alive creature to the mammoth. So that's why it's not that huge a jump. The idea is that resurrecting it could help restore the Arctic tundra, which is at risk as the world warms. And also, I would imagine a number of the frozen woolly mammoths are going to be unfrozen as the tundra warms and become more available. Frank Church at Harvard, who's been involved with that, he's the one that's been pioneering this undo process in biology for getting to origins of our genetics, going back in time. I'm wondering what would happen if we did undoes on our species? I wonder how far back before we became non-human. That way we can discover the missing link through churches undo procedures. So let's see. We have people coming in on chat channels. Okay, what do you got? Well, just the Hitler thing. There's a lot of controversy about it, primarily for making him sound even remotely reasonable. Those people's understanding of people like Hitler or archetypal or almost cartoon-like, but they were real people and they had complexities to them like everybody. To the victor goes the spoils, right? And to people who are malevolent dictators, which there's a lot of them in the world right now. There's a lot of fear that we're going in that direction again here. Well, there's a lot of people who really value being in control of others more than they value trusting each other and having a process. And that is really one of the big fundamental conversations in America is how much control over others do you have? Are we a slave country where only some people at the top get the right to decide or are we a democracy where people have an inclusive process for making decisions among groups of people that is not dominated just by the people who want to control others? Dictators are people who don't care about other people's opinions. They want to control. And it is a subtype of humans. It's a personality type. We're very familiar with it. I think it's way more enlightened to think about psychological maps like the Enneagram than it is to demonize a human as if comparing them to another demonized human is enough. It's really important to have conversations about strengths and weaknesses of different strategies that people use. And to not be allowed to have that conversation because of the hate frequency is very disempowering. Do you think ignoring the hate frequency entirely is going to get rid of it? No. We're still primitive enough that emotions trump reason and that reason is not trusted because basically the mind makes a story up to fit the emotions. The mind makes a story up to fit the emotions. And so we don't have a greater process. Law is supposed to be a process where we default to our historical experiences for wisdom and where we don't have to repeat the same mistakes over and over again. But we're not using law. People are violating the law in politics left and right. John Stewart was making the point about how little the people in our government are paying attention to laws and how there have been laws in place since Ronald Reagan that are being violated. Oh, that's another point that you were going to make today about the UFO stories and how many laws are violated in that arena. Amazing. [Music] For Ag and Industrial Real Estate, call Chuck Allen. 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This is a tidal-locked world. Yeah, it's a tidal-locked. It could be 4,000 degrees on one side and sub zero centigrade on the other. It sounds like the planet Mercury. Like one side is boiling hot, the other side is really cold. Yeah, it's kind of like the Sun. Exactly. Exactly. That's right. It's like Mercury only imagined that it was a water world, you know, not like the moon. Yeah. Fascinating. Now, they're been able to find out a lot from looking at it with the James Webb Space Telescope where the sensors on that revealed water vapor and the chemical signatures of methane and carbon dioxide in the atmosphere of the planet. So they've been able to ascertain that it's twice the size of the Earth and it's only about 70 light years away. It's really close. And because it's so big, they think that the ocean is very deep and that the atmosphere is pure hydrogen or hydrogen with water vapor. And it's being held in place by the mass of this giant planet. Now, it could be 100 degrees Celsius at least or more because remember, it's twice the size Earth so the pressure is going to be greater in the water. Yeah, they're saying that the temperature of the water is such that it's in almost like a plasma state. It's between a gas and a liquid. It's too hot for liquid water. It's too hot for a liquid, right? There's a couple of teams working on that. One's a Canadian team and one's a Cambridge team and they're both using James Webb data to analyze this exoplanet. It's called TOI-270D. A real nice name isn't it? TOI-270D. They're also been looking at ammonia. It seems to be an absence of ammonia, which would be a basic chemistry that would naturally be produced in a hydrogen rich atmosphere. But ammonia is highly soluble in water so it would be depleted in the atmosphere if there were an ocean below it. It's a high sea in world. Hydrogen and ocean. Yeah, a water ocean under a hydrogen rich atmosphere. We're finding weirder and weirder things all the time out there. It's kind of fascinating that so many different situations exist, whole habitat versions of the universe. I'm just beginning to think that maybe other forms of life form and all these different planets and every planet's got its own living ecosystem, some of which is available for us to see and similar to us and others that are very different from us. It's all happening at once. We're just looking for stuff that's similar to us. We're not finding a lot of that yet because of the incredible diversity that's going on. Yeah, maybe we're just ripe for a new era. Remember in civilization, Western civilization, we've gone from a time where we thought the earth was at the center of the universe and then we realized, no, it's the sun. Maybe now we need to go from where we think that it's a human-centric universe to where no, we rotate around life forms and we're not the only one. There's probably lots and lots of them. We just have to learn to recognize them. Which we don't as yet because we're looking for us. We're looking for us. Yeah, we're looking for water because we think water is how we started. But maybe it's not water. Maybe it's starlight. Maybe there's some other factor that actually is more significant. Maybe it's related to us but different. Both teams, for example, detected carbon disulfide. That's linked to biological processes on earth. But like many other things, it can be produced by other means as well. What they're looking for is a number of biosignatures that happen, not just one or two. Yeah, very, very fascinating. Once they have several biologically oriented biosignatures, then maybe they might have something. I think we should send certain extremophiles to such planets that might survive in boiling water. We actually have creatures here on earth that love boiling water and live only at those temperatures. Yeah, they like the sulfur, right? So in those vents in the deep ocean, which are volcanic vents, and there's strange creatures there that are not based on carbon and they're based on sulfur. Yes. So those temperatures are more friendly to them. Yes. Yeah. I've also heard that the creatures that survive at the boiling temperature of water also have little tails kind of like spermatozoa that's wiggle very quickly and are able to control the heat to some extent with the tail. You can cool it down, for example, with rapid tail motion, at least a few degrees. Right. They were wondering, well, how can a biological creature survive above that temperature because it would melt it, it would melt the organism. And so much of biology dissolves it at boiling temperature. Don't you cook your bones at boiling temperature, Mrs. Future? I like that you drink chicken soup and stuff. Yeah, right. You just boil the bones. So you get all the minerals and the collagen and all the good things and the bones out. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So that boiling means to normal biology. But extreme a file biology is where those creatures would have developed mechanisms of surviving at boiling temperature. And they would be a natural for that. And probably there are natural organisms along those lines there. If I were that team, I would look for those kinds of extreme a file, biosignatures. What are they uniquely producing that might be detectable? Maybe nothing. Maybe creatures that live in the water aren't putting much in the atmosphere. And the atmosphere is what we can pick up from the James Webb telescope. We can't really probably directly perceive the ocean just yet. Fascinating. They're trying to get a lot of information, a lot of story out of a Larry Little information. They literally see a spectral signature of the chemistry. They see how bright the light is. And they see how often it flickers. So they know whether there is some kind of a planetary rotation going on. And they can estimate how big the planet is and how far it is from its star. And then they use that to create a model of what could provide that. And they're very excited when more than one research team comes up with the same results. Yeah, it's pretty cool. We're sending out a ship soon called the Europa Clipper. Oh, this is a beautiful article here. I really was inspired by the Europa Clipper. You even have a poem associated with this one. Yeah. And what's so great about this is that humans are always creating opportunities to communicate and to learn about what we encounter and to tell anyone that we might encounter out there who we are. This article was very much about the art on board the Europa Probe. There's a legacy in NASA of spacecraft that carry inspirational messages from Earth, like the Pioneer plaque on the Voyager Golden Record and gravings on the NASA Mars rovers. These are tell whoever finds them a little bit about us and who we are. And this one has the theme of water and how water is key to our planet and to who we are because we're 80% water. And of course so is Europa. So that's something Earth and Europa having common is defined by our water. Is another water planet. It's just mostly frozen from what we can see. Frozen for several miles and then a liquid ocean underneath that may or may not have creatures in it. So the Europa Clipper mission aims to confirm that those vast oceans beneath Europa's surface make it a promising place for habitability for life like us beyond Earth. Or if not at least a place we can stop and get some water. Yeah, a gas station for water, right? So the shared element of water inspired the Europa Clipper team to engrave designs that celebrate the human connection and our collective spirit of exploration onto this little triangular plate made out of tantalum metal. It's about a millimeter thick and seven by eight inches in size. It's a part of the structure that actually has a useful purpose to it because it also, not just art, but it also protects Europa Clipper's electronics from all the harmful radiation that it will be exposed to from Jupiter so close nearby. Water is the theme. It connects all of us. The outward side face of the little plate features water worlds which is where 103 languages, a visual representation of the word for water, is shown. It's like on a oscilloscope or a computer when you say water and you'd see the visual representation of that sound. That sound, right? They have people saying it and creating those little voice prints of water. So they took the sound wave and they etched them into the metal plate as art. Yes, audio recordings, fascinating looking. And then they also have in the center of all these audio recordings a circular symbol and it represents the sign for water in the American sign language. Wow. All right. So we even have a visual representation of the deaf language word for water. Right in this very center. And then, here, let's see if this is working out. Let's play it. This tells you a little bit about that message that's going up on the Europa Clipper. Okay, from NASA. Here we go. Go. Try this. Three, two, one, engine ignition. There's a legacy of NASA spacecraft carrying inspirational messages from Earth going back to the Pioneer plaque and the Voyager Golden Record. Now, Europa Clipper, a new mission from one ocean world to another, will continue this tradition. Because water connects our planet and Jupiter's moon Europa, all life as we know it and all human cultures, a part of the spacecraft has been engraved with designs inspired by water and human connections. This metal plate is part of a structure that will protect the spacecraft's electronics from the threat of Jupiter's radiation. On one side of the plate is a design we call water words. These rippling lines represent recordings of the word for water in a diverse collection of human languages. The other side of the plate is a montage of elements that complete our message in a bottle. At the top is the Drake equation. A tribute to the visionary idea that the probability of finding life in the cosmos is something we can estimate. Next, these two lines represent radio frequencies emitted in space by molecules related to water, which have been considered an ideal place to search for interstellar communications, as suggested by some researchers. They represent our ability to use the language of science to search for signs of life. Next is a portrait of one of the founders of planetary science, Dr. Ron Greeley, whose early efforts to develop a Europa mission laid the foundation for Europa Clipper. At the heart of this message in a bottle is a poem in the handwriting of US Poet Laureate Ada Lamone. The poem connects the two water worlds. Earth, yearning to reach out and understand what makes a world habitable. And Europa, waiting with secrets yet to be explored. Finally, the bottle, orbited by the four largest moons of Jupiter, to which will be attached a microchip, etched with more than 2.6 million names of those who signed on in the spirit of the poem as our message is sent on its voyage to Europa. As technically advanced as the spacecraft is, every part of it is made by people. There you go. That tells you a little bit about the presence of the mystery. Europa Clipper art. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. We were thinking you might like to hear the poem. Okay, here's the poem of your Europa by US Poet Laureate Ada Lamone who wrote an original poem dedicated to NASA's Europa Clipper mission to Jupiter's moon Europa. It's giant ocean. Here we go. In praise of mystery, a poem for Europa. Arching under the night sky inky with black expansiveness, we point to the planets we know. We pin quick wishes on stars. From Earth we read the sky as if it is an unerring book of the universe, expert and evident. Still, there are mysteries below our sky. The whale song, the songbird singing its call in the bow of a wind-shaken tree. We are creatures of constant awe, curious at beauty, at leaf and blossom, at grief and pleasure, sun and shadow. And it is not darkness that unites us, not the cold distance of space, but the offering of water. Each drop of rain, each reveal it, each pulse, each vein, oh second moon. We too are made of water, of vast and beckoning seas. We too are made of wonders, of great and ordinary loves, of small, invisible worlds, of a need to call out through the dark. Go to nasa.gov/messageinabondle. Alright. That was beautiful. Europa mission is October. Go Europa. So we have left the last ten minutes of the show here to dip into a little UFO announcement from an interviewer of Daniel Sheihan who has started the New Paradigm Institute and who has been instrumental in so many challenges to the illegality of the US government. And I thought he did a beautiful job talking about the latest confrontation he's having around the issue of disclosing true information about the UFO phenomenon. Yeah, you heard about the announcement about how Congress and the AARO UAP report. So Danny Sheihan, our friend who was a Jesuit lawyer at the time, was in Washington on other cases and he had a connection with the Carter White House and was... In the Carter administration, he was invited to review the top secret documents that had been collected around the UFO issue on the request of President Carter. And he was going into the new National Archives building and he has a little story that I see. I think I have a couple of minutes we can play. This is Danny talking on the news nation's Ross Kulfart about his evidence of UFOs and a crash retrieval program that actually existed in the United States. Tell me what happened that day when you went to the Madison building in the National Archives. What happened? What happened is, Marcia Smith had told me that I had to bring two forms of official photo ID so I brought my Washington DC driver's license and I brought my passport and I came to the building. I was surprised that nobody had even occupied the building yet. It was brand new, it just got in built and there were these two suits standing outside of the door waiting for me. They demanded to see both forms of my identification and I showed them both and then they showed me in. So I went into the hallway and they said go down the hallway to the right and you'll see an elevator there on the left and you go down into the basement and you'll see the place to go. So I went in, I got in the elevator and I went down and I was going down the elevator. I just, it's instinct, I just opened up my briefcase and took out a yellow pad and slipped it under my arm and then closed my briefcase. The elevator arrived in the basement. I got out and it was dark down there. There weren't lights on but I could see down the hall. I could see a light coming out of her room and there were these two other suits. These guys, big kind of husky looking guys that were there. So I go down the hallway. They both demanded both of them. They demanded to see my two forms of identification. It was sort of like they resented my even being there. And so, but I showed them and they said, look, leave that briefcase here. You can't take any notes. You can't record anything but hear the stuff as they brought the stuff for you. And so I went, I put the suit of the briefcase down. So I just want to set the scene for this. This is you, Daniel Sheehan, being given access to the darkest, deepest secrets in the American military industrial complex. You've asked for and being given access to the UFO files, the secret files of Project Blue Book. The files the government denies exists. What did you find? Well, what I did is I walked in and I was in this, this, a comparatively small room. It was about maybe 20 feet wide, about 12 feet or so deep. And there were these three big cardboard fold out tables and they had like shoe boxes, these little light green kind of government green shoe boxes with a little ties on them. And there was a microfiche machine that was there. And so I sat down and I took the yellow pad out and I slid it over behind one of the boxes. So if they looked in, they wouldn't see it. And I opened up the first box and they had these little film canisters of microfiche shown. So I took the first one out and I put it into this old-timey microfiche machine and started cranking it and looking at all these documents. And I said, I don't know how long they're going to allow me to stay in here. And so I said, if I start reading each one of these documents as a lawyer, it's going to take forever. So I sort of cranked through them to see if there were any photographs anywhere. Everything was there in the first canister. And so I folded it all up and put it back in and I opened up a second canister, went through it and had a lot of documents again. I can see all the official stamps on them and the top secret designations, et cetera. And then I got to the third canister, I think it was, and part way in, there it was. Here was this series of photographs, black and white photographs of a crashed flying saucer. It was an e-doubt about what it was. It was a winter scene. There was snow on the ground. And the saucer, it was a classic large disc saucer, about 40, 50 feet across with a big dome on the top of it. And it had hit into this snow-covered field and it plowed this big ditch all the way across the field like the earth was all turned up and it was stuck into the side of this big snow-covered embankment stuck in there like at a 45 degree angle, this stuck in the side of the hill. And I could see all around it, there were these Air Force personnel. They were in winter jackets with the big fur around the hood and they were taking photographs of it. And I actually saw one of the guys in one of the photos, there are like three of them that I saw the photos. And they had one of these old-timey cameras, a movie camera, like with the two big round canisters on the top of them. So it must have been like in like the late 40s or early 50s or something, I figured. And so that, and all of a sudden I realized that in one of the photos I could see around the bottom of the dome of the crash saucer that was stuck in the embankment, these symbols. And I looked at him and I said, "Wow, look at them. There's nothing like anything I've ever seen. They're not Russian, they're not Chinese, they're not, you know, hybrid gliPix." Anyway, he goes on to describe what those symbols are and he actually sketched them out a little bit and was able to bring those symbols back out into the world. And he gave this performance, this whole story to Congress and they chose to ignore it pretty much. And you do have a link to that if you're curious. It's your one on Lynx Page, was it? DrFutureshow.com. And go to the Lynx Page. Yes, and it looks like that's the end of our show. We're getting really close here. So thank you, Bobby. Thank you for being here. Appreciate it. Both. Yeah, thank you. And you have a good week. And Taylor, thanks for being on the show. And all you folks listening out there, Richard, Greg, down in LA, appreciate your attention. Gabby. Yeah, thank you Gabby. Billy. Everybody else who loves it. Glad you have a new Mac. Gabby, that's great. Love it too. I've got a new one too. I love it. All right, you guys. See you all later. Future now. Hope yours is great. Okay. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. And now an extra bonus for the podcast, a phone call from MasterNow, aka Michael Moore, in the Hinterlands of Georgia. Hey, hi. Michael, it's so nice to hear from you. MasterNow, it was a pleasure. Dr. and Mrs. Future. I haven't heard from Mr. Pass recently. I hope he hasn't faded. Yeah, I don't know. We have to catch up with him, I should speak. Please become a ghost. Mr. Pass needs to come back into the present. Yes, we should definitely give you a shout out. Have a good, good, Master Now, or call so he can like beam into the future with us. Yeah, so what's the report from MasterNow, wherever he is now? Well, I heard you guys talking about lies versus truth and how we, of course, we honor truth telling and we are getting so jaded because almost every politician out there is telling lies. And yes, Trump lies, yes, Biden lies, yes. Yeah, yes. But I don't know. I don't know that Kennedy lies. Kennedy seems to be the only viable option out there of someone who actually doesn't, or at least not that I'm aware of, lies. That's very interesting. I was looking at his latest post on X and he was defending the whistleblower who had been reporting some safety violations of Boeing, which of course is big in the news right now. Boeing now has had three equipment failures on planes in flight just in the last few months. Yeah, and of course that guy just died, you saw, I suppose. Yeah. But he supposedly some kind of suicide in the parking lot in his truck. Yeah, is that one of these where you shoot yourself in the back twice, one of those kind of suicide? I don't know. But I know. You know, like all those two dozen naturopathic doctors that kept suicide. Well, let me just read you. Yeah, yes, I'm like that. Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s post regarding this today. It's real quick. On Barnett worked for Boeing for 32 years, the company worked to destroy his life after he exposed safety concerns. I'm proud that my sister Rory worked to tell his story in her award-winning documentary Downfall, the case against Boeing. Boeing killed 346 people out of greed. Let's hope there is a genuine investigation of John Barnett's suicide. So that's from Robert F. Kennedy Jr. today on Twitter, responding to John Barnett's quote, "suicide." Yeah, Bobby. Bobby, yeah, I don't think no agenda boys have a name for him. Bobby the Op. I think they can. I'm Bobby Op. Yeah, yeah. Their theory is that Bobby is not just running out of desire to be a good politician, but that he's working for the CIA and that they have some covert agenda. Maybe he's going to pull enough votes away from Trump that Biden will be in or enough votes away from Biden that some other Democrat will get in or, I don't know, they have some convoluted logic. I'm sure everybody who is either a dedicated Democrat no matter what or Republican no matter what, the old Democrats, yeah, I've never not voted Democrat until they weren't Democratic anymore. I had an insight recently, thanks actually to Glenn Grillo and his beautiful animated piece, his AI animation that we saw yesterday. Why did I, I think I said that to you, if you had sent us that link. Yeah. And it was beautiful. Yeah. One of the points that he made in that wonderful piece, singularity, was that the singularity we are approaching is a time when our civilization chooses unity over dominion, which means that we choose wholeness over domination. And I feel that that's a Democratic Party principle that they're trying to come from unity and that they just don't know how to win as it's always been the problem. Now, the party used to do that, I think, but now they're the ones now that are managing so much of the media and basically trying to censor. Now everybody's trying to censor everyone. Maybe Kennedy tries to censor people too, but I'm not familiar with that yet. At any rate, what we do know without a question is that you look in the historical records of Biden, the first time he ran, he had to drop out because he had so much adrenaline on then, then this time when he ran, somehow that wasn't there and somehow Hunter keeps getting skated. And of course Trump's got Trump stuff. Kennedy on the other hand, in his the real RFK Jr. movie, he goes into every bit of his dirty laundry that I'm aware of, somehow I wasn't aware of, gets all that all the way at the beginning and then goes into all the things he has done from cleaning up the river with the river keepers to closing down the hog farm in North Carolina. That was a lot of pollution to this. I've seen I've seen how horrible those could be. Well, that's probably how the swine flu was called the swine flu and it came according to some came from these hog farm poop ponds. Yeah, he has terrible. Needed this horrible stuff on top of it. Yeah. And it was so toxic that people kept getting sick and they had to be replaced. Users in Mexico, I think, had to be placed every few months and then they called that the swine flu. But anyway, I'm just saying that you think he's a viable candidate and that we should really. Well, we heard about Trump. We heard about Biden. We did not hear about Kennedy and I think he is the only reasonable candidate now. Yeah. Marianne Williamson was trying to run for a while to this year. Well, I like her. She's great and I would love it. Anyone other than Trump or Biden. I mean, we're again, we're going for the last year of two evils here. Well, Trump needs a good running mate. Maybe he should do Kennedy Trump. Kennedy combo. What do you think? I think it should be Kennedy Trump because last time it was Trump had Kennedy, you know, he was going to have Kennedy run one of the departments he got bought off. Well, I think he would probably win if he did. But he's not going to let Kennedy be president him not. Of course he's not. Not a chance in hell. But he might if he took on Kennedy as his running mate, that he could get a significant number of Democrats voting for him. You know, I actually think that would make me vote for him. Say there you go. There you go. Yeah. Right now, right now, yeah, the bumper sticker that I bought from a third party because I didn't see him with one is a heel, the divide. Hmm. That's it. Yeah. 2024. And that's the bumper sticker. I've never put a bumper sticker on. There's the challenge of the divide right there. Yeah, ever since I made up the bumper sticker and printed it up, it was called. Oh, that's right. Relax. I'm the hundredth monkey. Relax. I'm the hundredth monkey. You know, one thing I saw was Robert Kennedy lamenting the fact that he had applied for Secret Service Protection, which is afforded to large serious candidates for president. And it was denied by Homeland Security Director, Mayorkas, which apparently the Homeland Security Man has the discretion of whether or not to approve Secret Secret people for the candidates. And he determined that Robert of Kennedy is not a serious candidate. Well, that's what he says. Yeah. Yeah. So you wonder why they're trying to impeach this guy. It seems like he's in a power abuse position. How many of the people in office right now are? Who would be a good running mate for Kennedy? He did ask his people that. I don't follow him completely that closely, but it would be really interesting to see who his running mate would be. Well, maybe Biden should swap out his VP for Kennedy. Well, if the Democrats would have allowed Kennedy to run, he would have just beat Trump. Well, I think that what's going on is that the Democrats are in such disarray that the only person that they can at least give a modicum of support to is Biden because of his history, because there's nobody else who would emerge as strongly. And the fact that that means that now they can't muster enough votes to run against Trump is going to play out in this weird way where the Speaker of the House that has come out of the woodworks to replace the former Californian representative who didn't pan out is basically an election, the comma election denier. I think we should have a better name for that. Someone who is going to do what Pence was asked to do during the last election, which is to do some kind of invalidation of the electoral college. And that's going to throw this next election into turmoil. That's kind of how it looks is that the Democrats probably had some plan to have some California Democrat replaced Joe Biden at the end. And they're so unpopular that they don't that that scenario is not going to play out. And so instead the Republican scenario is going to redo the test of the election fraud issue. That's kind of the drama that's bubbling. This is quite the drama. So don't you think we need to go the divide? Oh, well, you know me, I made a piece. I'm the big forgive now and avoid the rush person. I'm big, but we also can't we can't change the tide. Democracy is a messy process, but it's a historical time where the deceit that has been the hallmark of our political process needs to be cleaned up. And I don't know what the solution is. The Biden Kennedy or Trump Kennedy. Yeah, I think either one of those would win. Let me get this straight. Now he was determined to be not cognitive enough to be held liable for the things he did wrong, but he's smart enough to be president for the next four years. Well, in terms of liable, he did wrong. I read something. We're talking about his documents or he talking about his. The documents, we're talking about the bribe issues. So yeah, the big guy bribed and his son's like all of the documentation that is there. But not to mention how much we're funding our military equipment and being used for genocide and other various presents been the case for many, many years. Many administrations. That goes back to Bush one, I think, is the rise of the Neocon America First Agenda, where we're supposed to be the policeman of the world. But we're not like we don't have the heart of an empire. Oh, you can't be a functioning democracy, vesting power in the people of the people, by the people, for the people, and still be dictators of the warlords of the world. It just is a contradiction. It cannot play out that way. Yeah, it can't. Yeah, it is very interesting times. What I keep praying for and imagining is it does seem like monkeys need to be taken to the brink of death before they'll change. It's like some people, they know they should do this or that. Let's say exercise more, eat less junk food, do this or that. Some people, they'll eat their Cheetos until they have a heart event and then they'll go, "Oh, okay." And I have another friend who couldn't stop smoking until she watched her brother. We brought back three times from a heart attack with the shocker and that got her to stop and she hadn't started back. It's like you have to get these like do it now or die kind of a thing. And so do you think that there's a do it now or die moment ahead? I actually would like it to happen before the do it now or die. Yeah, the moment is ahead if we don't do it now. It might not be in the next four years, but my idea is that just like my friend who was an alcoholic who went dry for many years, said you don't have to write that elevator all the way to the basement. You can get off at any floor before you get to the basement. So I'll just say that. And then the last thing I'll say is if you're going to bring back something, the woolly mammoth, well that's interesting. Well, how about the carrier pigeon? I think pigeons are doing fine. No carrier pigeon, not pigeon. Well, well, what about some earlier version of yourself? Well, I'd like to Denisovians. I'd like to get some Denisovians back because they had. Michael Moore's Denisovian DNA and maybe a Michael Moore Neanderthal. Yeah, well, the Denisovians were able to end a really cold cold. So I mean, I can use a little of that myself. Yeah. I don't know well who the ice pads. No, no, no. Cold plunge maybe after a nice hot tub. After a hot day, I can remember the cold plunge. Oh, well, thank you, Master. Now I hope that what's that bumper sticker again? Oh, it's called Heal the Divide. Heal the Divide. Alright. Blue and Red Heal the Divide. I'll send you a photo of the two I've got. Alright, it's better to unite than untie. Totally unite. And I'm actually thinking it on the bumpers and we're driving around Georgia. Yes, that's right. The Hinterlands of Georgia, where you're calling. During the work. Alright, but you know what? I think the people here are actually much more reasonable than you'd imagine. Oh, that's great to hear. That's great to hear. That means we have more places we can feel at home. Oh, yeah. No, they're actually pretty darn amazing here. So I'm very happy to be here. And you're in the mountains north of Atlanta for those of you. Oh, yeah. We're so far north that literally a half a mile we're in Tennessee. Wow. One day before I get to our nearest town. Yeah. You're home state. You're home state. We go through Tennessee. Wow. Wow. Yeah, you're really close to your homeland there. That's amazing. Oh, yeah. And then North Carolina is maybe five miles away. So we're at the tri-state area. Oh, fantastic. And each of have their different taxes. Oh, yeah. They're all different states. And each have their strengths. And Tennessee is one of the strongest ones. They've got massive surplus budgets. And they've got a gold depository. Wow. And they're all kinds of good things to keep the power with the people and at the state level. Alright. So that's what happens now. There you have it. Alright, sweetie. Love you. Love you too. Yeah, call next week. We'll talk more. Yeah. Alright. Alright, take care.