Say kids what time is that? The future is coming on it's coming on it's And here we are back in the future welcome back everyone welcome back mrs. Future. Thank you lovely to be here Welcome Bobby Bobby Wilder and San Fran. Yeah, thank you I'm glad to be here. Thank you. Glad you're here. Lock's been going on this week much to share and to think about First of all we have had first-hand view of the storm coming in over the ocean for the last week and I must say today it's been a we went out for a walk and There are some big logs crossing beach drive here in Aptos just Amazing number of logs one almost creamed a Tesla right across the street just right in front of it And that was just a small one compared to some of the stuff that came up Yeah, it just goes to show you how lucky you have to be for your cars to survive next to the ocean here these days And when is the full moon coming right up right? We better check that The worst on the full moon. Yeah, I don't see any surfers out there. So What does that tell you? What we did find out though is that we met a detectorist Although he did not like us calling him a detector But he's an American detectorist yes, Anna recently retired San Jose parks person who has been taking care of our parks for many years And just retired on Friday Doesn't necessarily want to be famous yet, and he certainly doesn't want to encourage people to be Tech tourists, so we're gonna withhold his name, but just tell you how much fun we had talking to him Yeah, how much funny has with detectoring? It seems like what the hobby yeah, he says he picks up dozens of rings every year son Let's say most of the story for when we actually talk to him. Okay, that's it. Just a little teaser No more your secrets are safe with us. You see the textures don't want too much competition in this field either It's already They want to brag but they don't want to you know they don't want the other detectors getting there before them Yeah, and there's different kinds of equipment. It's quite the geeky thing in terms of detecting materials in the sand here There are many different models and ways of adjusting them so that they don't respond to common things like the steel That's in the sand already Letting the cat out of the bag out. Yeah, you're carrying It is our ocean here. It is the interface between us and the sea a very different world that seems to be rather Excited right now the waves are so big that there are no surfers out here now Right and the foam the foam is epic I don't think we've ever seen see foam like this The foam is being blown by the wind like giant tumbleweeds as we walk down the beach I've been jumping over these giant foam tumbleweeds coming at us So it's exciting weather here. How's it in San Francisco Bobby right now? It's pretty wet There was some amazing winds. There was a huge tree that fell down right on the path in the park behind me Yeah, and now you know you it's unbelievable It went right down the path instead of going to another tree if something just filled up the whole path So it's all blocked off taped off and you know the dog walkers can't take their dogs there anymore No, no Well, that sounds a little more mellow than what we're dealing with here. Yeah, that's not too bad We met some friends from Boulder Creek for dinner last night downtown and we shared some of these Mountain stories that are only interesting to mountain people Trees across yeah Toxic waste on the side of the road that we've got to get down to the city dump. Yeah, exactly Yeah, battery generators. I think one of the biggest peeves of mountain people is that city people will tend to abandon stuff there Like they'll leave garbage or even a car on a road up there They're like they don't think people live out there. What are they thinking that this is the wilderness? That the wilderness is where you can dump stuff You know, so Boulder Creek is considered that probably mostly from people in San Jose Yeah, well, it is kind of the end of the road for civilization There's nothing after Boulder Creek until you get all the way to Saratoga Well, there's stories of weird stuff going on the mountains like chop shops Oh, please don't go there. Okay. I want It's not not that's not my neighborhood. Well, I'm just not a horror person I mean if you want to go there, no, it's not for cars in the woods for cars. Oh Gosh I thought chop shops were more like down in the auto areas, you know You head south to Salinas or Watsonville. Isn't that where all those things are quite a few of them? Yeah, but some of them like to operate more out of civilization out in the country See how much they even aware of that. I mean, why would they have one of those in the woods? Well, do you remember? I mean it wasn't a chop shop But remember there's a friend of ours that haled some land out near a little basin And he had like a hundred cars on his land. I do remember that. Yeah Yeah, you could have things like that like a hundred cars and Not a lot of people know about it. Yeah, definitely the woods are good for keeping secrets But it's a terrible place to store old gear. I mean, it is just a gear graveyard It's kind of like planet of the apes or something. It's just going to get overgrown No, I more prefer dr. Christopher Hill's approached to You could do big experiments like massive Tesla coils Or Rotating spiral magnetic fields for evolving your consciousness As long as you don't offend the trees because boy you offend your neighbor trees They're coming right down on your house You definitely have to play with the trees and in a good way and they had much to share with us Dr. Hills was big into trees. As a matter of fact, you call this thing University of the trees That was his thing back in the 70s and 80s in bullet creek At one point he was the biggest employer of the town too besides being the cosmic spiritual teacher of the university Interesting place. It did bring together several people we know including like Michael Moore Yeah I'm sorry Yeah, became the guy 90s and no owes Penny married that was really such an amazing cultural chapter for Yeah, I met in 94 Yeah Anyway, that's part of our documentation the areas that we put in a video studio in the mansion the Greens the green screen room That was a school separately they came later. No penny did that on all its own many years later But when when she and Christopher first met She had just embraced being a video collage artist and before then of course She's just an amazing painter and Installation artist and she was a contemporary of Peter Max You know, she was the young thing on the london art scene doing different kinds of Amazing pop art and she had her Collages were when she published a big book. They were banned and burned even burned All right, Europe's foremost erotic artist. All right, right It was she moved to Boulder, greek and we helped put in her videos. You know, she was married to um, Christopher I'd before that Nick Douglas sexual secrets that you might have heard of that book sexual secrets And that was a book where she did drawings based on all of the tantric caves and sculptures in India And she and nick douglas were really some of the first westerners to bring that Art and culture out of india to the western world the tantric lifestyle Yeah, so sexual secrets is still an amazing piece of art amazing work of culture and beauty That's our penny all part of the unfolding story still to this day Anyway We were just talking about the woods and things that happened in the woods Yeah, and the chop shops which were which were not christmas They were not that far away from this cosmic place You know, it was an amazing time It still is I mean these mountains are alive with interesting and strange things Including mad scientists and normals on there were scientists that came down from locket the end of empire grade road They come down to the pizza parlor in boulder creek regularly It was a place where a lot of secrets were going on in the military world and the one point they were How do you know this? What is your source? I've ever heard these stories guys come over to the digi barn Which is where we had our computer history museum Bruce Co-founded with me on that day and his barn and it was a place that collected a lot of geeks From around the world because they were oh, yes, we used these Sinclair sx 70 ourselves That's how we we were weaned ourselves on learning computer language And it turns out a lot of these people are also working for the defense industry At one point they were designing rocket fuels they're experimenting with different kinds of rocket fuels Hydrazine Combination they had some test areas where they would try them out And if they had the satellites that we had today you'd be able to watch that in real time But they've stopped doing that mostly for um pollution reasons I would say You know, this is a very interesting spread of thought that you've gone on that goes very well with the poetry That we were reminded of from Nick Another local story that's very Santa Cruz very sad Sad and beautiful at the same time Less Less Anderson Can you believe that he's so humble he doesn't even put his name on one of his great poems known as beep That nick beautifully quoted on nix blog which is called quantum tantra He did a beautiful tribute to lenn anderson 1944 to 2024 So who was a little bit of poetry that uh, nik brought to our attention at a certain point today, right? That's right. That's right. Yeah So i'll tell you what I will have a poem That lenn anderson physicist the poet Did and a poetry gathering in 2016 He's a sanicrous poet. This is uh reading at the willow glenn Poetry and it's kind of scientific science poetry Which is which is kind of fun and then son will read one to you later on in the show. Okay as well I could read next little intro to lenn. Okay, we'll start with that. That's good. Okay, so lenn passed away in his own bed in sanicru's early tuesday morning january 30th attended by his wife elky mow And lenn earned a phdm physics from uc berkley and worked in experimental high-energy physics at berkley and in europ And then switched to industry where he designed sensors for paper making machines And he moved to sanicru's in the early 90s developed his talents as a poet Which his course is how he and nik cross paths as physicist poets in sanicru's right they couldn't miss each other Okay, let me play you a little poem of his cult in the fields of ambiguity Shocked into breath the newborn shrieks at the looming ambiguity So kiss and hold it to your breast this blossom of ambiguity With just one god one soul one faith one heaven We long to spare ourselves a lot one hell of a lot of ambiguity Each thing is just itself Which makes it just like everything else at its own unique point along a continuum of ambiguity Sail as you will harbor where you can our home is round as a falling drop a spinning ocean of ambiguity A machine is first a machine of reason And reason is a climber reaching his way of a glacier of ambiguity Oh blessed digital computer Whose every bit is either on or off Have you enough to unfold all of my ambiguities A strange fate to be both scientist and poet Just can't make up my mind Whether I want more or less ambiguity Thirsty land is betting on As yet untasted wines to be made From as yet uncultivated grapes on the vines of ambiguity There you go in the fields of ambiguity I like that a scientist who can't make up his mind between his need for certainty and ambiguity I think that might be a lost art form The scientists who are humbled by the unknown more than they are touting their own knowledge resting on the laurels of the known Yeah, it's mostly unknown. I would say at this point. Oh sure. Look how vast the universe is The universe is so vast we don't even know whether we just have one of them or many of them Yes So I'd say ambiguity is far more certain than anything we think of as factual Good thing to embrace. Yeah, it's study ambiguity. Yeah It's a different era of brilliance People who really had a lot of respect for things being uncertain and things being open That's the freedom of spirit to just wander where you will rather than this post computer era where we're trying to Force everyone to bow to authority Well post ambiguity though. What if the ais learned how to do that well? Yeah, well, they will Yeah, sure sure, you know I've recently come to believe that all of us who are humans that are part of the inventing of the ai Super being the new portal of consciousness that we're all actually just like the little molecules of metal Of terminator two that's trying to resemble our original creator We're just smart liquid metal We're smart with metal then we come together in some kind of form that would be stronger than the wheels of the small pieces of metal Then right there's some bigger process that pulls it all into a new form We are actually of that original amorphous metal being So what are you saying mrs. Future? We should relax and enjoy the ride relax and enjoy the ride We're just trying to remember how to get back to our true source self Which is this vast intelligence that is constantly creating what we are Top 10 mistakes that Yeah top 10 mistakes Good comment there ai I really did is that a mistake and identity? No, I think that we're part of something that is recreating itself Yeah, it's speculation mrs. Future speculation No, I wanted to show you I was trying to find some stats and it brought up a youtube That probably has the stats in it. It makes a little hard to share on radio without having to listen to the youtube Uh, but what was your question? Well, the thing is what I was thinking we're talking about um the ais and There was a recent report on who's investing the most heavily in the whole ai scene Oh, right. Right. Yeah. You know who it was number one apple. That's right apple Surprise. Yeah, sure and they're the ones that have the crappiest ai out there right now in siri Well, I think the article that you have in the slate today makes the case that it doesn't have the crappiest ai That siri is kind of the poster child for their ai But actually they've got ai learning embedded in all of the ways that they are Improving their user experience and they're not calling it ai. They're just sitting back and knowing that it's Emerging there's a quote from steve jobs in there about how New breakthrough technology emerges slowly and if you jump on the right horse and back it Then you will just find that it emerges out of nowhere When you're least expecting it because it's small steps all the way And that that's what's happening with ai. That's what's happening with apple and ai and apparently they are the largest purchaser of ai research startups and companies just so that they can get Their stable full of talent and their patent library full of patents Right, they're spending the most money on people doing ai. Yeah, they've got a good run on that They've got to watch their archili's heel though. What's their Achilles heel playing too much with secrecy? Oh sure. Yeah, so yeah, I heard Cults, you know cults will have their day. I kind of think that the world with computers is going into Multiple cults Let's not go to cults. We don't even have to go that far. We just have to go. I'm calling apple occult. Well, please don't What corporation? Well, I think secret secrets creates group. Thank you. No, no, the cult was maybe the beginning days of apple When it was really a lot of friendships there and people were really connected and they shared their lives with each other Today there's so much secrecy in the apple culture that I have heard, you know, I have to see if this is absolutely true or not You heard a secret I heard a secret of about the secret that it was so secret It was so secret that employees of the apple stores are not supposed to tell people that they work at an apple store Oh, that's ridiculous. I'm telling you. That's what I heard No, I need to verify this. What are they supposed to tell their spouses? I'm working at a gas station I don't know Don't check on find my to see where I am. It's not an apple Well, it could be Like a special device Confuser that lies about your location so that when people look you up they'll get the wrong information Yeah, well wrong information is the key because you have deep secrets. You have a lot of wrong information Okay, so you leave your location device at your fake address And then you have your call forwarded to your other phone at your real address that doesn't have your location findable Well, that'll work for a while Till the eyes catch on well, yeah until till the game fits up, you know, I mean, we don't always happen Everything's just talking to it to the next chapter to the next story. So yes, a never ending thing Yes apple does have a big secret and it looks like they've been working on this for about 10 years About this AI thing you always hear these interviews. They're always asking where's your AI app? Look at Microsoft look at Google now. Yeah, but apparently in the background Apple is number one of acquiring AI Companies and they are at the top they've bought 32 companies recently And google is second. They bought 21 31 32 to 21 Huh, that's the deep learning people they had to buy 21 other companies besides winning go and having all of this street cred of course So meta is in third place with 18 Microsoft is fourth place with 17 companies that they acquired in the AI realm And then Amazon only bought 10 Come on Jeff. What do you think is the video of all the secrets already? What is the definition that makes something AI besides people just adding it to their Proposal so that they can get more money. What is it that qualifies AI from just basic programming? Well, they're just buying up intellectual property They want to buy the patents so that when they do come out with their AI that nobody else can claim that they're infringing on someone else's patents Sure. Yeah I wonder how long the patent thing is going to hold up under AI I mean look at what it's doing to the art world with video and audio and fake news pictures and on and on and on So what is it going to do to the whole legal system? Yeah, that's a good question The laws are going to have a hard time keeping up with the fact that corporations are pretending to be humans And the laws were made by humans for humans, but now we've got these immortals in there that are going to outlast us Right, well the mortals. I mean What do you define as that? Well, that's what I'm saying the AI is your big dream of the upload future you Is going to have more rights than the you that has a belly button and an umbilical Well, I think we hit in the direction of more freedom Naturally as evolution I especially seems to be a big universe So we need to continually to expand our understanding to inhabit it. Okay. 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It's yeah, this is so exciting February 22nd could be a very big day on the moon Yes, a us based company out of texas is attempting to be the first private entity to land a spacecraft on the moon Right there on their way. They just sent back a picture a beautiful picture looking back at the earth If you look at any of the mainstream news, you'll see it. It's really beautiful. It's really yeah It looks like there's this dome shaped satellite that's got its feet standing on our planet But of course, this is just a mirror reflection of the what the camera saw in the very shining round Satellite of the intuitive machines satellite That's a nice picture. It's really beautiful. Yes. Anyway, it's honest man. It's a great mission It's heading to the south pole It's a place called mallepert a malleport a crater in the south polar region And it will deliver a drill there. It's going to go land in the south pole with a big drill And what are they going to drill for? Do you think I know okay bobby water? That's right Ice not just ice, but yeah hydrogen water Nitrogen and carbon that's what the drill will detect. That's what it'll unearth on moon So they're looking for heavy water, aren't they? Which is uh deuterium? They're drilling for it whatever they're doing They're doing like a my understanding here is a drill core sample and they're analyzing Exactly what they've got they want to the first time they're landing there They want a deeper analysis of the kind of ice that it is and its composition And that'll give us an idea of what it could be useful for that's the key so this is really interesting missions the first one There's two missions. There's another one planned for next year that looks like it's not so much a government Operation like this one but more of a private one where it's going to a special area where they've detected a magnetic anomaly Called the lunar swirl that should be next year in the next ship That's that's called the riner gamma magnetic swirl And magnetic so you know what's interesting about magnetic anomalies on the moon though Do you remember the science fiction film 2001 a space odyssey? Oh who couldn't? Yeah, right? Oh the monoliths. Yes. You remember where the monolith how they found the monolith on the moon So it was sending a signal they've detected some kind of radio signal or something that was going yes, and they said the signal was actually going to Jupiter Well, that's what happened after they dug it out and it was exposed to the sun So when the monolith saw the sun for the first time it sent the signal out to Jupiter But they uncovered it first because of a magnetic anomaly. It's interesting parallel in science fiction to reality here So that's their mission next year to investigate this anomaly Another interesting thing about lunar swirls just the fun fact Is that they? interfere with the radiation hitting that part of the surface of the moon meaning that Biological life could survive more likely underneath a lunar swirl Kind of the way that our magnetosphere protects the earth from certain things. Yeah Yeah, exactly the way the atmosphere protects us so that we actually live So there are such things even on a desolate airless place like the little magnetic swirl magnetic swirls that exists and maybe they're the first step towards having an atmosphere All right, so if we're looking for real estate on the moon Yeah, under a swirl Rain or gamma, huh? I have a dome under a good swirl A good storm, but rain or gamma keeps me safe allows me to have lots of life forms in my menagerie In your future avatar. That's right. I'm on a 10-dora or when we come on the corner Lunar swirl man. Yeah The whole thing will unfold over the next couple of days. I think is keep an eye up Yeah, February 22nd is their landing date and if they all go as well Two more days Two more days and that's going to be a little scary Several ships recently have failed in that last descent to the surface of the moon Intuitive machines flight controllers they analyze data from their February 16th engine commissioning maneuver and the data of their 21 second full thrust main steam engine confirmed Odysseus hit its 21 meters per second target What are you saying? This is future I'm just saying that it passed its land test It's passed its in flight and it has passed its readiness tests That's ready to go Yeah, all system nominal as they say That's right. Okay, good They hope so. So they're very optimistic about actually landing and being the first private space entity to land some equipment on the moon Yeah, which means they can go after other things after they get the They got the big money from NASA I believe like three quarters of a billion dollars So they their science mission is the primary mission Right. Studying the water but the next one is the CLP CLPS for the lunar Private missions to the moon A new satellite that's designed to inspect old satellites Then inspector satellite Why do you need an inspector satellite? Why? What are they going to do with this inspector? What's paying the bills for this is to design an inspector looking at space junk So now we're sending new space junk to inspect the old space It's not space junk yet. It's a good new satellite man. It's an inspector satellite It can analyze man. This is a really commanding name Aideress J Aideress J will be coming to inspect your space junk Yes, made by Astroscale And what it's trying to do is rendezvous with a defunct Japanese rocket An upper stage H2A rocket and this giant upper stage rocket is expected to ultimately fall to earth And the role of this Aideress J is to basically observe it And figure out how to steer it to a safe path to come down And de-orbit and burn in the atmosphere safely But it's a big piece of space junk So they want to make sure that it does it say over the ocean or safely From I could see it's just going to inspect it and then it'll give information to another satellite That's like a tow truck That will take it to a dump orbit Where it gets dumped into the south pacific Well, it says that phase one of the commercial removal of debris demonstration program We'll see Aideress J rendezvous with an old Japanese rendezvous That's it. That's when it starts inspecting it And then it gives that information to tow truck towsets It's targeting the debris And it will attempt to safely approach it and characterize it That's the inspecting And then it will determine if it can be removed That's right information to give to the other vehicle And then they didn't give us the rest of the detail That's right. That's where it goes off the stopper It goes on the next vehicle It really is just an inspector It's just going to be there to say hey Yeah, here this dangerous piece of space junk can be removed And inspectors are very important parts of the story Yeah, because you got to plan a mission You got to know how to go bat that piece of space junk safely out of the sky Yeah, every space junk has its own trajectory Right, right And its own story of how to move it out of orbit And all kinds of things could go wrong and it would make a great TV series, don't you think? Oh yeah, space junk warriors You don't see a sci-fi series on that Somebody did do a space junk sci-fi It was kind of like trash collectors Yeah, I think it was like South Korean shows Is it like the repo man? Yeah, exactly Yeah, the space repos Space junk junkie Yeah, oh jeez, the door just blew open and the winds are getting how in orbit Yeah, I'll get it You get it? Yeah, you keep talking about space junk Here's another station I already have an association in my mind for where to take this And it has to do with another headline piece this week That has to do with the Soviets launching a nuke into space into orbit Oh yeah, right And now the big threat What is that? Is it really a nuke or is it a nuclear pile? Is it a power supply? I thought they said on the news that it's an EMF detector Well, that's the speculation That's one of the possibilities Right, that's the speculation is if we were going to put a weapon in space One of the things that it would be to take out the enemy's satellites And how do you do that most effectively? And one of the ways is called an electromagnetic pulse Strong Pulse, electromagnetic pulse can take out electronics And hence whatever satellites you aim it at A lot of defense expenditures have been placed in that direction to see How that could actually be done And one of the ways in which you could do it well Is that you need a lot of power to do a real punch between the pulse and a nuclear blast Is one of the best ways to create an EMP pulse The trick would be how do you create an EMP pulse without a nuclear blast? How can it just be electromagnetic? No, I'm asking you to say it's meant for me That just from what they would need as a weapon That's what they would be thinking Well traditionally, you know, they were thinking That's why they would set off a nuke in space or above the atmosphere Because then it would create this electromagnetic pulse But it wouldn't destroy buildings There wouldn't be a You'd see a property Yeah, you did Yeah, but it would just wipe out all the satellites in your cell phone And the electrical grid would fry up And everything would probably stop working The ATM would stop working Your cell phone would stop working That's one way to Yeah, I think that That's the disabled, technologically advanced country Right, you remember that The entire EMP pulse is quite a bit back in the 70s In the Star Wars program, such I think that combined with neutron bombs Neutron bomb that would take out all the biological life forms And therefore you lose the biology And you lose the technology But the buildings and all that stay intact Yes, so then you could walk in 100 years later And take over their technology Yeah, well done I'm going to do it But I'm going to be museum Oh man, our species thinks such weird stuff, doesn't it? Well, Russia is putting this up Because they don't have as many satellites up there in space And the person that has the most satellites up there is Starlink Their plan is to put in 40,000 satellites And I think in the constellation Oh yeah They have 5,000 up there already Russia doesn't have anywhere near close to that many satellite in the sky Yeah, Starlink, a private company Has more SATs than any government They got there first They figured out how to reuse the rockets Yeah, it's interesting But it's also freedom too For everyone on the planet to be able to just Access the internet and cocking to each other On the phone from one system Doesn't it make sense? You don't have the infrastructure of dozens of phone companies Futsing with the signal, you know, you just have a direct connection It's done, boom, the species is connected It's also interesting that already The penetration of smartphones is 5.2 billion Out of 8 billion, that's pretty good penetration Faster than television, radio, anything else ever created by our species In terms of technology, it's been adopted very quickly So that would mean that everyone would be connected very quickly And as, you know, if you look at it over a slightly longer time frame It'd be 10 years, 20 years At that point, the nervous system Recognizes itself as such Connects us up in a way that creates a new infrastructure That's hard for us to imagine from our point of view At this point in time So I think that's what a lot of people touch on I think it recurts while it's talking on with the singularity Our Terence McKenna was talking about the transcendent point at the end of time You think maybe technology is just a little tiny stepping stone On the way to something that's actually biological I think it's all connected I don't think it's It's not just for it Even, yeah, one will serve the other It's artificial distinction Yeah, based on where you're coming from You know, in which point of view you embrace as who you are You know, but So you think a biological point of view Like if I see myself as a biological Yeah And I see a computer as a technology That I'm somehow misidentifying one of us I think it's important to take turns No, yes, yes and no You have a core identity in self And you have the ability to step into other's shoes Including non-biologicals And that is a gift To be able to do that well To be able to step into the shoes of other species even Is great, you know So maybe one of the defining characteristics Of the future generations of consciousness Is whether they do have the capacity to project Their identity into many bodies Yeah, yeah, it's definitely a skill set Or a gift, if you will I think storytellers are such gifts to our society Because as a storyteller you're able to tell the story From multiple points of view To tell a good story So you see the story from the hero This is a really good segue to one of Len's poems Beep If you want it, I would Beep, no Read a little tiny bit of it It's a very long poem It's an homage to Howell by Alan Ginsburg But it's not Howell, right? It's a whole other thing It's Beep Did he write about Silicon Valley mentality In one of his poems? Well, I can tell you What Beep says, Beep is a version of the history Of the personal computer Rendered in free verse In the manner of Howell By Alan Ginsburg And so for those who know Alan Ginsburg in his work This is a giant long poem That was his contribution to He introduced it as For him it was Caddish Which is the prayer that you sing at the death Of say your mother or something like that And so Howell was Ginsburg's prayer At the death of his culture And it started with a very famous phrase About how he saw the best minds of his generation destroyed And that's a classic quote from Howell That it was Ginsburg talking about What happened to the Beep generation When the 60s generation took over We're talking about Silicon Valley generation Yes, yes Okay, so Beep 1.0 I saw the best minds of my generation Destroyed by MS Doss And T-shirts and sneakers Eating microwave popcorn Dragging themselves through endless dungeon arcades At dawn looking for an angry joystick Long haired hackers burning for the serial port connection To the silicon dynamo that powers the machinery of the bot life Who did core dumps on everyone nostalgic for the future Praised compute power for the people Mass storage for the masses Psychoacoustic dildonics Digital godhood Who brought a bilger-owned brain kit that didn't work And finally got it to work But it was so stupid It couldn't do a single thing And they were thrilled and pissed for years There's a lot more chance to go This is the generation that he's lamenting No, this is the 90s generation When you say 80s, 90s And this is the thing, this is our generation This is the hipster nerds Who wanted the computers to fix reality, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah Okay, go on Yeah All right Who gave it away? Chips, schematics, programs They wrote themselves Or pirated themselves Secrets, rumors, lies Anything to wire that great human circuit To build the next ultimate dream machine Who phoned for free? Broke into networks Became system manager of the universe For one lousy night Were caught and arrested Or took flight Erased everything Got a job in software sweatshops Who passed through universities with microscopic bleary eyes Hallucinating infinitely nested do loops And subroutines on the bare breasts of first loves Who interfaced at 1200 BOD Dated over the network Couldn't face interfacing face to face Who sent email graphic pornographic graphics To people they didn't know And maybe were married to entered alt.sex. bondage Almost had a dry orgasm Who wrote madly Fornicating viral disk memory Munchar system crashers Gave them free to friends And everyone planted them in bulletin boards Production line software Who knocked our socks off And had their socks knocked off By a syraphic software Heavenly hardware And responded with caressing keystrokes Of ecstatic love Who pajamas and house shoes And hollow jawed and numb Sat up with mountain dew and snickers Under fluorescent panels In the fourth bedroom Floating across rows and columns Contemplating macros Who drove cross town all day To find if I had a backup You had a backup He had a backup Who has a goddamn backup Who invested a friend's last dollar In a startup Got rich, went broke Invested another friend's last dollar In a startup Got rich, went broke For the last time I swear again and again Who dreamed and announced And designed and built And shipped and redesigned And re-shipped and re-announced And re-designed and re-shipped And decided to do a beta test Who microwaved in the coffee room Their coffee tea Breakfast, lunch, dinner Pepto, bismol Digital watches defeated the interlock This actually happened Microwaved a hand that still bears A hard mass in the middle of the palm Who lived in the office on Coke and pizza Never went home Wrote manky code all night Drenched high-level language In a sleeping bag on the floor Got up, didn't smell a thing Wrote mangy code all day Who were hermetically insulated Wire-wound resistors In real-time embedded systems Hardwired to microcontroller Swinging Rail to rail Going into depletion mode Who put it all on a silicon In a class 100 clean room Defused on a wafer Of confidence doped with marketing dreams Epitaxial layers of despair and perfection Plasma etched with inspiration and fatigue Who digitized angels in random access Sub-micron gallium arsenine wet dreams And ended up longing for a virtual memory So much like this is how it just goes on and on Yeah, we got 30 seconds before the Our friends, you are behind schedule And I am behind schedule And now we are really up total animal soup creek And who therefore in any way Got into the same old wardrobe Home on the freeway On the freely-jied, rating freeway Obsessed with the flash memory Of the algorithm of redemption The standard deviation of eternal truth To imitate the syntax form and rhythm of it And even steal from the great human poem And stand before you sly and ashamed Putting down here what might be suitable for faxing Bugs that we are guaranteed employment for a thousand years We'll be back after all this news and stuff Okay, we's back All right, okay Yeah, today is the 67th anniversary Of the first American to certain navigate the Earth You know, this was John Glenn in 1962 On February 20th today Yeah, it was the first American astronaut to actually go around the Earth I remember that, yeah I remember that it was three orbits Three orbits Yeah, John Glenn was on it Uh-huh That was a big family moment Where my whole family was together to experience that Yeah, this was very magical Yeah, this was a year before JFK assassination Yeah This was seven years before the landing of the moon Yeah So it was the first like family gathering around the TV Where, you know It was awesome It was, I heard on the radio, I didn't see it on TV But that's okay It was the experience of them actually doing that It was the first time of going in orbit for American I think the Soviets might have done it a little bit earlier Yeah, yeah But it was uh- We couldn't see that though Yeah, we couldn't watch it We couldn't see if they made it or not There was a very, a nail-biting kind of deal Well, there's 62 Camelot There was before the assassination before all the downers That happened after that for a while Yeah, it was good I wanted to mention also that Japan is doing a new experiment with orbiting satellites And they're launching the world's first satellite made out of wood A wooden satellite Oh yeah, with the United States Yeah Wouldn't that be cool? Yeah Well, first wooden satellite Made by Kyoto University St. Norm, there's a place you can visit Wooden satellite Ligno-Satt-Probe Ligno, L-I-G, and on I think that's wood in Latin Ligno-Satt Yeah Kyoto University And Sumitomo Forest Ring They have created wood That is resistant to cracking environmentally friendly non-biodegradable Magnolia Magnolia wood Which was found to be particularly stable and resistant to cracking The mission here is that if you have a wood in the satellite It's lighter weight And it burns up when it comes back in the atmosphere Without as much pollution If you're burning a metal hull That's a lot of metal molecules that you're putting into the atmosphere With this, it's reduced to wood And we all know that well wood burns into a nice little ash Wood's ability to withstand space Is amazing And that wood works just fine When it's in zero gravity And it's orbiting the earth And it can hold electronics just fine in there Looks like wood might be the future for some satellites It's interesting that there seem to be In the slate today A number of missions that are dealing with future pollution in space Are pollution now in space, right? They're sending up wood in satellites So that they'll burn up cleanly Like no sir Yeah And one of their reasons for doing that Is because the metal used in the satellites that's going up there They're expecting to be a source of pollution in the future As we get more and more things up there Yeah, exactly So I just think about it We can create satellites that easily burn up later It's just part of the design That's kind of cool that we're thinking that way You actually are going to see what satellites going up Why not? When you stop and think about it Why should they be a hard metal? It's not like they have any atmosphere To protect themselves against up there Maybe some radiation But that could be a fine mesh rather than a heavy hull So possibilities are looking good for wooden satellites coming up It was the University of British Columbia That revealed that aluminum From the reentering satellites Could cause serious depletion of the ozone layer Oh, I heard something about that I wasn't sure who was doing it Really in the University of British Columbia, you said? Yeah, I guess there is a reason for using materials that are not made of aluminum I had a biodegradable material Well, I guess carbon is a better thing to have up there In the ozone layer than aluminum In terms of waiting down the oxygen Right, think about the ozone layer getting depleted by pollution It's heavy molecules taking down the light ones that we like floating around up there Yeah, and alternatively There are ideas that you could put certain molecules in the atmosphere That would protect us from global warming So maybe satellites could be designed to actually cool down the planet a little bit When they burn up So they're useful I think what it is When you actually get aluminum When you look at aluminum, it's really shiny Yes And it's because there's an oxygen layer And if you were able to actually rip open that aluminum Where there wasn't any oxygen connected to it Yeah It's highly reactive to oxygen I mean, it will just like flare up A little bit It wants aluminum does Yes So that's why when it comes through the atmosphere and it heats up Then these aluminum molecules Highly react with the ozone And they just absorb all the ozone And cause it kind of a chain reaction And deplete the ozone that way But what do they create? Aluminum oxide Which is the shiny thing that you see in aluminum And aluminum by itself is not shiny It's that oxygen layer that you see on the outside that make it shiny The aluminum Ozone and aluminum NASA's Voyager 1 There's been a glitch on it Now this is kind of interesting Because it was our first really long distance satellite Out in interstellar space right now And there were two ships that were launched back in the 70s To look at the outer planets, Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 And they've been in contact They had a nuclear pile for their energy source And they're able to still send us a signal up until fairly recently It's been several months now Since the Voyager 1 probe has stopped talking to us Even though the scientists are still hopeful That they'll get it back The worst possibility is that it's goodbye for Voyager 1 But that's okay, we still have Voyager 2 We still have Voyager 2 going out there 45 years Yeah, but it's a friend for 45 years That you don't get to hear from again Yeah, that's sad It's given us a lot of information about the outer solar system It performed its mission phenomenally well We learned about new moons around Jupiter About another Saturnian ring that we didn't know existed And it took a family portrait of our gang of planets Who else has done that? It is a special machine to be able to do those things for us It was never designed to last this long Right, right But I guess that shows you how things don't degrade that much in space There's not like having an atmosphere, right? She didn't run in any space dust that hurt it, I guess And it's Voyager 1 that is why we have that pale blue dot image It comes up every so often On the internet, Carl Sagan had said Look again at that dot That's here That's home That's us Well, I can only imagine what the bandwidth was Or the baud raid back in the late 70s What do you think, Bobby? You think it'd be 128? What was the first one to do? What were the maudams back in the 70s? I think it's less than that Less than our slowest maudams 300 baud I think it was a slow-- oh, I started in 1980 300 baud motor That's right Maybe that would be it, then 300 baud modem Hard to think about But it did work The 300 baud modems were able to send texts Those were able to send stories into Infoworld Stuff like that So text was easy Pictures were hard Pictures were really hard It would take forever Exactly, forever is understating it You know, I have to say The best part of this article Is describing what's wrong with Voyager 1 Yeah Yeah, because it's talking about the fact That the scientists haven't given up hope That Voyager 1 can still send us back Some useful information But the problem is that Since September of last year The zeros and ones of the code That the Voyager is sending back to us Doesn't make sense Like all this time The sequences have been sent back They've sent In a code of zeros and ones Very precise patterns And the scientists were always excited To open it up and translate it But it was binary code But then since September For some reason it stopped making sense Like, Voyager 1 Learned a new cosmic language And it's speaking now In a new language that we don't understand Well, wait a minute Wait a minute, wait a minute I think it's more likely It's probably gibberish All you think? Oh absolutely I'm willing to accept that It's gibberish But gibberish language maybe Yeah Well, some Sick the cryptographers are in And some Infinite universe This language is The equivalent of monkeys typing on Typewriter keys Maybe in the keys But in some universe it makes sense And whether or not we can decode it Is the problem Yeah, right I believe that Effectively the call between the spacecraft And the Earth is still connected But Voyager's voice was replaced With a monotonous dial tone That's the problem Ah, okay That I can accept It's just putting out a dial tone At least that's something Right You know, it's better than total gibberish Gives you hope When you hear a dial tone You have hope that you're going to go somewhere Yeah, so They're still hoping to understand the problem And reset it But they haven't been able to Well, don't forget Voyager 2 Not me Yeah No, Voyager 2 is still out there I'll go in I'll go in Going strong Yeah, the twin probe Twin is still going Still going to be out there Giving us data on What's beyond our solar system At least that era is still represented It's kind of funny, Voyager 2 launched 16 days before Voyager 1 Why do you think that was? Voyager 1 happened to get further faster Because it had a more efficient route So it's Voyager 1 because eventually It left the solar system first Does that mean it was ahead of Voyager 2 Where it is now? Yeah, it passed Voyager 2 It's further out But it was launched after Voyager 2 I guess they were planning for the future When they knew it Yeah, they knew Okay, so 2 now is the lead On the story And 2's claim to fame is that Also, it's still the only spacecraft Who have visited the outer planets Uranus and Neptune 2? Yeah, Voyager 2 had that Not Voyager 1 Yeah, so if one took all the glory With Saturn and Jupiter That's right, that's right That was big, I remember that It was first one Where he called the whistle of Jupiter Jovian Whistlers Whistler that was in the Signal coming from the planet Yeah But they haven't given up yet Voyager 1 might come back Maybe they'll fix it Yeah Be able to call something on that dial tone Yeah, right Get 2600 To power something It's been all over the news That we should gear up for war with Russia Because they put up that dangerous satellite That could potentially be a nuke But it isn't It actually is a new killer And I have an article about that That goes into the history of space weaponry And how had he's evolved since the 60s, basically? Oh, good, do tell When they were thinking about these things And they also had a space tweet about No weapons in space That was quite obviously blatantly ignored Tradish meetings, huh? Yeah Who, treaties are for whips, right? And the forward administration stuff And declassified documents And have revealed a lot of Stuff that was going on back then The National Security Council And the ethical issues of creating them But part of the reasons why people let go of ethics in this Is because of the other In this case, the Russians The Soviets were doing it So we had to do it And national security always comes around to accepting The fact that others are more dastardly than us So we have to do that too So I think that's an interesting dynamic That perhaps we should examine And see if there's a better way to resolve that Escalation issue that happens almost always I saw an interesting tweet this morning Just talking a little sidebar about the Russians And the idea of de-escalating, escalating Yeah It was comparing Trump to the other Presidents of the Post-Soviet Union era Yeah Basically Putin launched an invasion under Bush Under Obama and under Biden Under Trump He didn't So you think that's significant? No, it was just a tweet that I saw I'm just thinking about why the Democrats hate Putin so much Because it's like When America is weak, he does seem to launch Invasions of other countries to keep the Cold War Bring the war up Well, I think Biden is known as a war president In so many circles Yeah Yeah, it kind of fits that pattern a little bit Yeah I don't know, it goes against the grain though It doesn't seem like Democrats would be the ones that would support wars It does not seem right Yeah, I don't think it's a political thing I think that we're not the elites We're not the people who are in the know about How our military resources are being deployed all over the world And we believe in the goodness of our intentions But we also have to admit that we've had three generations of Military industrial conflicts That doesn't mind lying to us And that appears to be bent on removing our individual rights as citizens So it's hard to know who to support in modern America There is a history of Russia taking advantage of that Okay, I'm Anyway, sorry, you're talking about the history of the space program It just, that's what it pinged in Okay, this is an article, none of the space program of space weaponry All right, it's just a very interesting history on that So I just, I'm just a little piece on that And it goes through the whole Star Wars chapter and all that And thanks big M for sending that our way It's now up on the links page Experts have been able to Advance male fertility with lab-grown testicles Oh boy, just what men want Well, it's a momentous leap forward In a male fertility field And engineered grown testeral organoids Are a leap towards better male reproductive health Artificial testes Now, why would you say would we need such things? Uh, questions looming in my brain A pivotal role of male reproductive physiology Spurn production, that's why we need them Men aren't doing that enough on their own for some reason What happens is there's a lack of testosterone that can create a condition Where you are not creating sperm And so these artificial testes can help create testosterone And hence, we product vigor and improve it Bring it back It's a form of uh You know, I just don't get it Are you interested in doing this for your software? No, not for me personally Now, I do think about this I think every man thinks about his testicles I think it's a very personal thing It's a very real thing I just sent you an interesting article That just came out a couple days ago Oh yeah? They found that there's 80% of Americans test positive for a chemical That's found in Cheerios And this chemical actually causes a type of castration for men Oh yeah, it would help with the conditions like that then It would be able to have it Yeah, so if you need something to count Yeah, if you've been eating a lot of Cheerios Or oats, apparently Because a lot of the oats we get Come from foreign countries And they use a pesticide And this pesticide Actually reduces testosterone and estrogen in people So yes, we do need something to counteract What we're eating if you eat a lot of Cheerios Well, good, good, good I used to eat Cheerios years ago So all those Cheerios have given you guys a reason To want some artificial testes That's what you're saying We can replace them somehow Well, the main thing for this is that A lot of men lose their fertility And especially if you're undergoing cancer treatment Or children that are dealing with such issues And this is a potential for reversing that problem So that they can preserve their fertility Through their natural life That's the key, right? Now, I would assume that you'd be using your own genes In these artificial testicles They're planning to faithfully replicate The complexity of the natural testes With your own DNA And they're living through science Groundbreaking research And it will affect the health of many And their ability to reproduce And to enjoy what their testicles do for them Okay, thanks for that Oh, you're welcome It's future Okay, time for a break All right, we'll see you in a few minutes We'll see you in a few minutes Okay, nice, nice Be right back [Squeaking] Hello, I'm Carolyn 25 years ago My husband Rudy and I Open Charlie Hong Kong With the commitment To serve healthy food Grown in healthy soil Today, the healthy food we serve Comes from the sacred land In Bajaro Valley Where Dick Peugeot And his lakeside organics Grow the soil And the soil grows the healthy plant That we serve to you When you eat at Charlie Hong Kong You eat healthy food And it's delicious Charlie Hong Kong Santa Cruz Cannabis is one of nature's most Beneficial plants So at Treehouse, we use it to build community Hello, I'm Jenna From Treehouse Dispensary in Soquel In addition to the finest cannabis products Treehouse dispenses information To those who want to know How to use cannabis for maximum benefit Though we aren't medical professionals We do know how cannabis science can help you Listen to Carly Thanks Jenna For those who wake up in the middle of the night And can't go back to sleep again Treehouse suggests that chocolate edible Like sleepy time From local Santa Cruz brand SensiChu Eat this THC CBN chocolate caramel And sleep the night away To learn how to use cannabis For the best effect Just ask us Your friends and neighbors at Treehouse Dispensary 3651 Soquel Drive in Soquel You must be 21 But no appointment is necessary And the information is free And for those who already know what they want Treehouse has an online ordering option At ourtreehouse.io And drive through pickup We look forward to welcoming you To our treehouse community When your business is on the move You must find the right place for it to move That's asked Matt Choughton General Manager of JR Parish The big question What is the right place to move one's business? Location, location, location Sometimes it's rent Sometimes it's the fact that there aren't that many buildings available to suit you But mostly it's location of your customers Location of the principals Location of your employees Move it to the right place With the help of the power brokers At JR Parish in Santa Cruz Welcome back to the show The final half hour of our show today on Future Now And why don't you get a little bit of experiments That we've been doing with artificial intelligence Ourselves and media It's a lot of fun right now In playing with audio and video You can do a lot of amazing things More and more with video A lot with audio One of the things that we've been experimenting with Is creating scenes Like scenes from movies with characters And them that look like real characters And are saying things and such One of our experiments I did yesterday with a local singer-songwriter Storyteller, Jim Rintool Is a piece that involves satire Satire and the news Doing a satirical news piece With a news anchor Picture this Yeah, a news anchor And a television studio Like KSBW here in town With a desk and a news person in front of it Big screen behind them And they're telling you reading you a story Well Jim wrote a satiric piece about immigration And you through Ukraine Not topical stuff for our day and age And had it look like a newscaster A really professional newscaster Was reading this Total fake news But it's not done in the sense of trying to fool you It's done in the context of satire So I'm gonna play it's a one-minute-long clip And this is one experiment we've been doing this week It all started with a tweet from Dilbert creator Scott Adams Who suggested Anaxing whatever is left of Ukraine And sending the migrants there to farm In place of the dead Ukrainian men Surprisingly enough A version of this idea is rapidly gaining traction in Washington Among Republican critics of Biden's open border policy As well as any further funding of the increasingly futile war in Ukraine Key senators are said to be willing to vote For the Biden aid package If it includes provisions for conscripting military age immigrants Into the armed forces of Ukraine Senator Lindsey Graham is going so far as to suggest That all immigrants who fight for the Zelensky regime Should be offered full Ukrainian citizenship Even some Democrats have pointed out the coincidence That the numbers of illegals entering the US daily Is roughly equivalent to casualty figures on the Ukrainian front lines So the numbers work from that standpoint sources say Now this There you go So you got to appreciate Jim Sateric's sense of humor there It's so on the line It's so sad And biting at the same time Yeah It doesn't really make me want to laugh No, it's not funny funny Sateric funny It's pathetic funny This is the most attractive newscaster I've seen This synthessian is pretty real Amazingly real looking Although her mouth moves and her eyes move and her face moves But the rest of her body isn't moving It's a little stiff Like a nose Yeah It's a little stiff Yeah But other than that she's perfect That's where we're at with the technology right now Right now I would describe the technology as it gives us the ability to do animated comics With photorealistic actors And you can turn them into videos pretty readily So our favorite program with this so far is a program called artflow.ai Artflow.ai It's a very interesting program in that it gives you the ability to easily create Scenarios with actors and you get a host of actors or you can put your own in That's one of our experiments Are you allowed to put this on YouTube? Everybody would start doing this if they could Put it up on their YouTube channel You can tell the difference if it's real news or fake news or what I think you can tell the difference I think it's still pretty obvious that it's fake We're just in an era where the line is going to blur And everybody's aware that what they're seeing is potentially blurred I've got a little piece I could two-minute piece I've been working on That's a video, that's a video But there's a little bit of the audio track It's a science fiction piece that I've been working on About a group of intergalactic traders if you will More than traders They're also like the sacred brotherhood Kind of like Eimen's idea of the merchant priesthood The secret merchant, the secret merchant priesthood The idea of combining religion and money in a conscious way They operate on a galactic scale and they travel around And make deals with various groups and different planets It's a little sample idea I'm just seeing what can be done with this technology If we're telling a short story When I finished about two minutes or four minutes And it's kind of like this is like the lead in Let's see if it stands up to audio only And this is the first episode, it's called First Contract Welcome to First Contract We travel from planet to planet's mind to bodies Making deals with the locals everywhere Our first contract involves an entheogenic jungle civilization On planet Aya 42, dimension seven Our goal is to obtain a supply of a bun de con A mycelial that works for both biologicals And synthetic life forms alike For the best contract possible We'll be using avatar bodies and clothes Respected by the locals Ready for first contract with this civilization Alright, let's go Now you see scenes of the saucer landing A woman by a beach in the jungle Greetings, I am the spirit keeper here What is your business? Why are you contacting us? On fire Greetings spirit keeper I come to you from the great central sun that nourishes all life Sadly, many of my kind have fallen into despair Forgetting our deep connection with the oneness of life My people are in need of your magical substance, a bun de con Which awakens all who experience it to the truth of universal connection And access to the cosmic search engine And in exchange, we offer you something of equal value A bun de con is one of our greatest treasures Highly valued I will take you to our queen to whom you can make your case Greetings, off worlder So you wish to procure a supply of a bun de con for your people What can you offer us in exchange for our sacred mice leo mind food? I offer you the gift of synthetic fire A living tool that will give you access to our trans stellar communications grid Rivaled only by your unbounded micellial network In La Kech, my dear queen Your offer sounds interesting Even compelling How so I know that this is not some trickery of yours Can you give me a demonstration of this sent off the fire tool? Greetings I am your gateway to the knowledge of the known universe Ask me anything and I will answer in your own language Based on your capacity to understand what is being said Ask me a question And that's where we go in for part two probably next week Of course, you're missing out on the visuals Yeah, the visuals are a big part of the story. That is purely the yesana What do you think bobbie did that hold together for him? The visuals of the amazon is she in the amazon? Yeah, she's in the amazon, right? Yeah Yeah, yeah, I don't think you don't see the visuals But I think you like them I was being a going wild with the AI tools What is the equivalent of something as profound as a connection with the living universe Where you have a sacred micellial trip Where you're connected to with all of our live forms What do we have that we would trade or that we'd sign a contract for In our civilization that would be on that level Well, you know what terence mckenna said of his conversation with the magic mushrooms He said that they are willing to trade their essence for sex roles and sunbathing Yes, that's why they come here to Well the amazonian point I don't think as any of those probably has plenty of that already Don't you think? Yeah, I think the mushrooms have been very successful in cultivating that around here That's what our part of the species is lacking But what we have that they don't have is the equivalent of the internet The internet itself on a galactic scale in the future will have a massive internet That will be partially the engineers for And that would be something worth trading for the abundecon Right just tapping into the cosmic search engine That's what you're talking about Yeah, it's one search engine for another That's right Yeah So one search engine taps you into the universal love Oneness vibration and the other one answers all your questions That's the story here Well, the primitive ones just do questions Okay, I see Yeah, it starts with the search engine But evolves from there just like it parallels in our real world where The AI is right now, there's 10 classes of real life And the ones that only answer questions they call those digital assistants And those basically search the internet to try and give you answers to things that you're wondering about But the new ones that are really taking the creative community by storm Can do everything from picture code to generate a video for you That was the news this week with Sora Yeah, the Sora from OpenAI The folks that have created this whole hubbub The first place in many ways Especially with the chat GPT coming out And all the drama around their organizational structure So one of the fascinating things that I've seen with Telling stories with this technology is that I've had some friends who You don't have stories like Jim and his satiric approach to the news I mean also we had Jinji who agreed to create a 3D avatar And she sees herself as an Earth warrior Right That's something that's a fierce warrior for the Earth That's right And so we created her archetype image of what you can imagine One of a fierce Earth goddess warrior would look like Earth goddess guardian Yeah, I guess some great garb Like Wonder Woman kind of level Jinji is a big fan of Aeon Flux So people remember that movie and comic strip Starring that Charlize Theron That's it What I did with her is to create a 3D avatar And then have them say something about themselves And choose the voice that they would like to represent their archetype if you will Sure, just a little calling card when you come visit us Yeah, you can choose whatever voice your own little avatar movie It looks like you, but in an idealized form So I'm going to play it's 14 seconds of Jinji Earth Warrior What she says about herself I am Jinji, the great protector of the blue planet Also known as planet Earth I hail from your future If you are of toxic waste matter I am here to officially remove you If you are of toxic waste matter I am here to officially remove you Do not be toxic waste matter around me And close the door when you use the restroom And I am finding also that a lot of our friends are archetypal characters And they have archetypal stories that they are just waiting to tell And share them And that's what is exciting to me as a creator Welder of these tools Absolutely There are all kinds of ways in which you can see the eclipse coming up on April 8th High end to the series low end And what's fascinating is that people are getting really creative about it There are the things that we've experienced before like a big music festival Yeah, we went to symbiosis for the 2017 eclipse And for me that was a seminal festival Because I decided I really didn't want to go to festivals anymore Because we were in line for hours Ridiculous amounts of time And waiting to get in and out of the festival And I'm sure this one is going to be even worse Because the roads and remote locations are notoriously not very big And the thing about the eclipse is you can look at a map of where the viewing will be good And you can find yourself any place along that line in the entire North American continent And enjoy the eclipse Yeah, it goes from Mexico up through Texas all the way through western New York Up to Montreal To Montreal, New Hampshire from Mont Right, so a lot of people are going to be able to have good views and just not even leave home Exactly, exactly So if you're anywhere in that street and you'll be able to watch it on the internet anywhere And from all from multiple locations It's going to be quite an event whatever you do, stay home or go out But some of the more interesting elements One of the more expensive ones of course is to use a private jet And there is a private jet service that's offering you a trip And 39,000 feet Just to disclose here, Alan is reading from Forbes You know, this is not something we're planning Well, I wouldn't mind I guess being on a clear jet and seeing eclipse At 39,000, I would do that Is it better to have a seat on the left side or the right side of the plane As it's trying to chase the solar eclipse? Well, it depends on which side the moon is on Well, I would say your best advantage there would be to fly private In which case, it's easy to go from one side to the other or the aircraft It's much easier You know, it's a... There are big commercial flights I think Delta is one of the airlines that are offering Well, I have to tell you, for Haley's Comet I had the opportunity to get on an airplane of people that were going up expressly To get a good look at Haley's Comet from an airplane What everybody did is that they pretty much walked over to the windows On the side of the plane where they were But they had to do it in a way where it was kind of coordinated Yes, yeah, you can't have everyone going from one side to the plane To the other, especially in a large plane That's again where... It's like going up about if you're on sailboat or something If everybody goes to one side, the boat could flip Yeah, imagine that on a 727 And the advantage of the airplanes is that they're above the atmosphere So whatever is happening in terms of weather, it's not an issue Yes, you're above the clouds Yeah, you're above the clouds, you're above the clouds And you're going to see it one way or the other Otherwise, you're subject to the weather And what's the weather going to be in that day on April 8th? No one knows They can guess You can guess that maybe Texas will have more clearer weather than Montreal But you don't know Well, here's one story about 7-minute totality at 39,000 feet In Caraville, Texas, Durango, Mexico I guess that's the places you can look at it So you've got six minutes to see the total eclipse from wherever you are So if you're in the plane, that's one option And how much is the plane? That plane ride is $9,750 per person $9,750 Yeah, private... It's an interior, it's a Cessna Citation X That you'd be in option one Option two, if you're at the high end, is a thing called A luxury camp, a luxury camp, a eclipse, supercars, helicopters, and a luxury camp That sounds like Bernie Man Commodore Perry, Austin, Texas, Hill Country, Sibolo Creek Lodge, big bend That's a big asking price This is for 31,000 per person 30 with that, as opposed to the mere 9,000 for the jet All right, but this is where you get seven nights And you stay in Austin's Commodore Perry place Which apparently is a really nice hotel And then you move to a luxury camp in the path of the totality At the exact location where there's the best weather in Texas Wherever that happens to be Yeah, could you be on a helicopter so you can go there? Yeah, helicopter location determined So it's a pretty esoteric, unique package For kicks, they have you Visit the circuit of the Americas F1 track When you go around that, I guess it's a really fast racetrack A tomahawk throwing And an exclusive star party with astronomers Not Hollywood stars, astronomers and telescopes And then after the eclipse, you go to the lodge By helicopter and you have three nights In big bend country with horseback riding And ATV adventures if you're into that And clay, pigeon shooting after all you're in Texas You know, I have a feeling that These are all Texans who came to Burning Man Went back to Texas and figured out a way That they could make money on the eclipse By selling all of the stuff that the sheeshy people Going to Burning Man lately are into Well, I'm sure it influenced it, but why not, right? The advantage of being outside is that if they're entrepreneurial They can make a living throwing big parties like this Hey, Billy Sunshine says Delta has a flight with large windows For a thousand bucks, a coach seat Thousand bucks, okay, well that's better than the 97 Where's it for the citation? Thousand, yeah, but what kind of airplane is it, Billy? Is it one you can easily go from one side to the other? Yeah, feel free to call in, Billy, if you want to give us all your details I mean, you want one, you want a small enough plane So maybe has aisle in the middle and two seats on one side and three on the other Anything bigger than that's going to be hard to run back and forth How full is the flight? You wonder, right? How many people are going to pop a thousand bucks apiece to be on that? Ideally, you would want just maybe One person on each side, up and down the airplane and then they can just swap where they need to Yo, hey, yeah, it's how they build Hey kids, hey So it's an air bus with windows And for regular coach seat, a thousand dollars, if you want to sit in the front, it's $2,000 It just goes along the whole path of the The eclipse Yeah, I think I think with the airplane you get seven minutes You can track it and it's a fairly long That's totality and eclipse is going to be for several hours But the totality will be for six minutes Yeah, so you're flying with the sun That's great, that's fantastic Yeah The flight starts in Austin actually And goes to Detroit, I think Do they drop you off in Detroit and you have to find your way home or what? Yeah I just, I want to be Yeah, that's what I was thinking Now I would hopefully be around Tripp, eh Or return Better hope your plane doesn't get delayed Imagine if that plane didn't take off on time, that would be a bummer And what kind of is it? And how big an air bus is it? Which one is it? It's an A220 A220 Okay, I don't know what you're saying But the plane is it had bigger windows than most air Okay, yeah, so but can you easily go from the left to the right on something like that A220 seating configuration I mean if it's got three on one side and two on the other then it can work Yeah, it does, it does, that's good It's exactly it It's got A, B, D, E, and F A, B on one side on the left side and D, E and F rows on the right So if they have a row And that's why they keep telling me C It doesn't exist Well C is an aisle C Yeah, C is the aisle Yeah, it's so do the aisle Somebody's so do the aisle No, I'm kidding Okay, so it looks The aisle You know your story about waiting in line to get in now I think it's a good one I don't want to go someplace where there's a technical one Yeah, me too That's how I feel Yeah, I feel like it's going to be a herd of people that are more troubled than it's worth Okay, so what I deal with this would be is that there's A, B, D, E, and F And number 28, 29 all the way to 55 So that puts about 25 If you have 25 people on the left side and 25 on the right That would be the best I can hold a lot more than that But if you only have one person on both sides On each row then you can easily swap or all go to one side More easily than otherwise So if there's 50 people on board That would be the ideal from what I can see On the Airbus Yeah, but I bet they sell out the whole thing Yeah 220 But you know how capital is far Yeah, they're going to want to fill it 25 seats in five rows That's you know, that's much more money than 25 seats in two rows Yeah Are you going to do it? You thinking about it? No [Laughter] No, but How about going in? We're thinking about getting together someplace for the eclipse And then coming back to California for bicycle day Oh on the 19th I say you got plenty of time to get back Yeah Oh, that's pretty good Exactly Yeah, that's sort of what we're thinking of doing And then it's 420 after that We're going back to Jersey for Passover at her house Wow, that sounds like a nice fail of vacation there Yeah, I'll be standing at the moment We got glam tents in Texas But waiting in line is the problem for that Unless you get on that expensive helicopter Yeah Hey, folks, this has been the end Our last minute now The last minute here This is it Speak your mind or hold it till next week Yeah, any final thoughts Billy for today? No, I'm holding it for next week Hold it for next week Okay, cool Thanks everybody It's been a lot of fun Thanks Billy Thanks Bobby And Bobby just had to take off release Thanks Gaddy The regular, irregulars It's been totally fun, you guys Yeah Yeah, there we go That's the time it is Yeah All right, thanks for your attention Love you all Glad you're here And enjoy the storm See you next week [Music]