51 Future Now - Storming in CA, PACE Mission, Whale Tech, Master Now Georgia update, Glowing Plants, Bacterial Plastic to Silk transformers, STOL planes, IO Volcanism Say kids what time is that? The future is coming on it's coming on it's coming on it's coming on it's coming on it's okay we're coming on to ya have to have a big storm one of the worst storms we've experienced in our years on the west coast here. We are just remarkably cool as a cucumber considering here we were ready to go live and the internet went down and it was out for the last five minutes. We came back like eight seconds before the start of the show. I'm so impressed you're just moving ahead as it's situation normal. But we don't even know if we have Bobby back yet right? Do we have Bobby? Yes we do. I'm here. You're right Bobby. Yeah it's a little worried there. It's a story you know we were on we were going about to go over the stories and then boom off we went just ten minutes ago. Yeah first thing we noticed is that your face became a big blur and then we're like oh me where'd you go? The entire internet is down. It's because you were talking about storms. It's a big storm folks. I mean everything is affected. We are in northern California you've been seeing it on the news. We've been seeing it right outside our window. In fact I was likening our house to the house of Dorothy and the Wizard of Oz. [Laughter] There were tornadoes off the coast. Yeah that's not the case. Cosmo Joe Jorkey saw some of them. Pictures of those tornadoes. Yeah he's got pictures. I saw those waterfuddles that you sent. Yes the watercoats. Yes the watercoats right. Yeah they had predicted there could be tornadoes off the coast of California and they never made this prediction. They made this prediction until 2015. Yeah it's very unusual. Yeah what are they? Water spouts. Water devils. Yes. Yeah. Fortunately none of them came ashore on this case. But what we did see here were almost hurricane level winds. Yeah it was beautiful. And in a forest there's a lot of flying branches. Yes a widow maker from our nearest redwood tree fell on top of the roof. That was a nice little wake up call. A neighbor was killed by a fallen tree. Yeah. It's all over the nest. That there were actually three people in Northern California who were killed by falling trees this year. I've never heard of people. I mean I've every year there are a lot of falling trees. There are a few trees that fall on cabins in the woods. The news picked up on the fact that there were trees falling on people in cars. People in their mobile homes. There was a Santa Cruz employee who wasn't home when her mobile home was destroyed. And power. Power is out everywhere. Everywhere. It's no power. Our town has no power. Until tonight. Until 10 p.m. tonight. Since yesterday. Yeah. And that's if everything goes according to schedule. This is modern America folks. Yeah. We're only down for two days. Because our power companies are overwhelmed. There's just too many downed power lines to fix. They're employed in full force and there's just not enough. Yeah. Downwire. There's thousands of trees. Thousands of wires. Live next to each other. Big winds hit. What happens? Yeah. So we're fortunate in this case we have off the grid power which is way less than what normal power is. We use about maybe a fourth of what most people do in their houses. But we still have power. We can still watch TV. We can still have our computers working here even though our town sadly is out right now. The reason we have power though is because we have batteries. Huge. Because batteries get charged by the solar panels and the wind pinned the solar panels in an awkward position where they were not collecting daylight. Of course it was a gray rainy day anyway. There was no daylight to collect. Yeah. The winds, the winds they're like almost here. 65 mile an hour winds. Yeah. The solar panels are sails. Yes. Yes. The wind just catches them and rotates them on their poles in the wrong direction. And also you don't get any solar anymore. And not that there was much anyway when it's cloudy like this. We haven't had any real sun for some days now. A little bit today. The captain's log. Dr. and Mrs. Future here and Bobby we are actually experiencing some kind of winter climate change here. Yeah. These storms keep getting fiercer and we keep getting better prepared for them. But in some ways there's no way to prepare enough because they're going beyond our capacity to deal with them. Yeah. The hardest thing for me though is not so much all the problems that happen externally but we're scrambling around trying to fix things. I sprained my ankle. So I've been hobbling around. You know which is not as much. Really having an ankle suddenly not working at what a pain. It's such a key aspect. Who would have thunked the lowly ankle was so important in mobility. Oh you should really speak more highly of your lowly ankle just to encourage it. Yeah. On the size of the weirdest look at it in the body near the bottom. Not that it was low in the totem pole of importance or anything like that. I would never suggest that. It's foundational. The number of bones in that. You know it's complicated the ankle. Yeah. I'm sure roboticists have studied it in great depth to see if our robots can even get close to what the ankle can do. Yeah. Once you're living on a nice hilly property to keep us in good shape as we age. Once your ankles are out it's really more trouble than it's worth. I think we're about to start our five year plan to think about where else we're going to live for the next 50 of our hundred and some years. Unless we invent an anti-gravity device in the meantime. Oh right, Baron Juan Harkonin. You want to just float around? Well it'll be nice. I'm just because Baron Juan Harkonin used these levitator devices to float on. It doesn't mean that I would not use them. I don't make that silly assumption that Pavlovian association not going there. I'm saying lighten the load honey. Don't go that direction. But I would like anti-gravity. I think that would be really cool. That would be I think. But they say to be careful that would you ask for and to be very specific. Yeah. It comes to critical reality. So okay. I will think about it a little bit more before I ask for anti-gravity. What do you think Bobby should we ask now or do you think we should think about it a little more? You know I think it's about a lot of the secret aviation stuff that's you know since all the UFOs and 47 and beyond here. I think all those captured spacecraft they've got these exotic metals or elements that are extra heavy and so they defy gravity. I think the Nazis probably captured a UFO and they discovered that there was and they created something very similar but they used mercury which is very heavy and they spun that in a circle like a centrifuge kind of thing. Yeah I have to tell you that. Something weird about mercury and it's effects on gravity. Yeah. But the elements that Bob Lazard discovered that you know 115. And what was its property? Antigrava and it allowed the spaceship to fly. The Alswellcraft. And what it does. And he discovered there was a centrifuge in there with this heavy metal or heavy element that was spinning around and it defied gravity. Yeah maybe that was the strength. Maybe it was actually a captured Nazi flying saucer that they thought was alien. Yeah the Nazis thought it was alien for sure. They put their attention on element 115 rather than the atomic bomb thinking that flying saucers are more important than age bombs. Right. Yeah once you blow everything up you still want to be able to travel around. Yeah. And you want to have a good getaway car. Yeah stop blowing things up please. There's a lot of creativity going into making this world a better place. Could you please stop blowing it up? Yeah. Hey they're just making room for the new. Oh you're so cynical. Well creation and destruction are part of the same cycle I do believe. But what about appreciation and gratitude aren't those part of the same cycle too? Yeah we go through those two. Appreciation. I like to stay on the creation side. Yeah you know I'm not so much into the military side of things though I do see the benefit of it and how it's useful as an immune system for all of us. But I'm not the immune system myself that's for sure. Well not single-handedly. Not so hand-made. Not more but you often identify it as the immune system. Oh you're not the immune system that's right you think that's more alive. I talk to the immune system but I don't do friend or foe very well. Right. They're all my friends. No you're right. Winning communication world you have to communicate with everyone so it's like it's all connected. Sure. Right so it's not separate. Dendritic. Yeah it's more of a dendritic perspective I guess comes naturally to me. So much for others which is the dilemma we're in where our species is constantly at peace and war at the same time. Right. Well you know in the Asian system which I don't know very much about but I have heard on good sources that they consider the organs of the body each to be their own divinity. And each divinity is in cooperation with the whole for their own contribution. Well and a decentralized god model that's certainly true. Yeah. Yeah. Well a god is something that is the uniter of all the individuals who share the same belief. That's what divinity is. Connective course. Connective consciousness gives everybody their marching orders. That is the connection to how to move and rotate and vibrate. Yeah and the decentralized model is that everyone has that awareness not just a handful of leaders. Right. Or one. Anyway we have some interesting space news this week in terms of exploring our solar system. I wanted to get into that a little bit. And we can come back to the storm and if any of you have any good storm stories A3,1,265,5050 give us a call. We'd love to hear your story. Bobbi, how was the storm in San Francisco? Well my neighbors tree branches fell down and then in my backyard we have the Golden Gate Heights Park. And one of the big huge Monterey pine trees a big branch came down. It was very loud crash. You heard that. I heard that but nobody was hurt fortunately. Wow. Gosh these huge trees these gigantic they're just swaying in the wind. I don't know how fast it was going. I've only seen this a couple times how windy it was. Did you watch them in for a while the trees? Did you go out there? Yes. All the trees and the bushes everything was just swaying. Back and forth. Back and forth. I have some video I should upload it to you. Yeah our video version of the show we'll put that in there. Jinji our house guest took some video as well down the street. There was a huge tree a big giant oak tree that crossed the road. Stopter cold. Wow. Yeah. Yeah so I thought it would stop me cold. Yeah and you think that it didn't happen when you were driving by. There's one video on KSBW channel eight here showing someone driving and they're targeting hit by a tree as it fell right here in Boulder Creek. But fortunately it wasn't big enough to cause any serious damage but still it's scary experience to see a tree fall on you while you're driving. Really. Yeah that was really interesting here she was filming as she drove because it was so scary driving down the road and all of a sudden the windshield is full of all these leaves from the branch that just fell on her car. Wow. 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We'll do that on another show. Okay. You guys are only the only living may apply. Okay. So you know, one of the interesting science stories this week really has to do with the weather and has to do with how the weather has delayed its launch. Really? The weather has a launch date? That's not what you meant. We have. We as in NASA or SpaceX or some rocket company delayed their launch. It delayed the launch of the pace. Oh, oh, that's a very interesting satellite that's going up in there. Yeah. Let's look at that one. There was going to be poor weather that was forcing SpaceX to scrub the launch of NASA's pace mission this morning. There was going to be. Right launch tomorrow. Oh, right. So it was supposed to go up this morning. So there's at least a one day delay. Yeah. Yeah. Now why is this awesome program? Pace. Pace is an Earth observing satellite. Let's see. What is it? Plankton, aerosol, clouds, ocean ecosystem. Ecosystem. Ecosystem. But they leave the O out for some reason. Well, it's pace. It's Paco, but they call it pace. Yeah. Easier to remember. Right. Ocean ecosystems is just E. It's using a number of scientific instruments, spectrometers, inforometers to look at the ecosystem of the planet. You'll be able to look at the Earth and you'll be able to see much more detail than we've had before. So this is compared to say if you had a Crayola box of 12 crayons with the colors, this one increases the number of crayons in our box to 128. Wow. So a lot more detail, more in the far infrared and ultraviolet ranges. We're able to look at the ocean and see creatures in it and see where they are. Like single cellular. All the way down. Cellular creatures. No, we're able to see migrations of whales and dolphins and seals. And all these sorts of things like air traffic control. We'll see where they are and what they're doing. And all the way to human stuff, we'll be able to track shipping information if we wanted to. In this case, not. This is purely focused on atmospheric weather uses. Yeah. So they have three sensors and the first sensor is the most generic. It is a color sensor. It looks at ocean water and color. And so they use that information to say if there's like an algae bloom or white caps or maybe even an underwater volcano erupting, things like that. And then they have sensors that see the rainbow light spectrum. So these are spectral sensors that actually are decoding the color spectrum of the rainbow. And they are making sense of the clouds and the rainbow spectrum at the edge of clouds. So they'll know a lot about what's going on in the atmosphere. Detailed weather data on the clouds. Yes. And the size of raindrops within the clouds and things like that. And then the final piece, which gives this pace mission. Teeth. Not teeth, but talent that is comparable to the James Webb Space Telescope. Oh, yes. The James Webb of the Earth. Is the fact that it has infrared spectrometers. So it can look at a spectrum frequencies outside of the visible spectrum and see in great detail heat signatures and information that allows us to look at the plankton. Right. Yeah. And see into very tiny realms of feedback knowledge. Yeah. Not just big creatures, but plankton and small creatures of that sort, the blooms that happen around the planet. And the pace mission is going to be on a polar orbit, right? Well, that's one of the fun facts about this. Yes, it's a polar orbit instead of a quater orbit, equatorial orbit. Typically, the satellites that look at the Earth are 23,000 miles out. You need three of them and you'll see the whole planet all at once. But in this case, it's going around and around the poles and closer in. So you're able to get more detail about what's happening in the oceans, especially by doing polar orbits. We used to have a friend, Henry Dacon, who had a special satellite dish on his roof at 3220 in Sacramento in San Francisco. Your town, Bobby. Yeah. I remember Henry. And he had a satellite dish on the roof and it was a polar tracker. It tracked satellites that went around and around the poles. Which I guess was very common until the '60s, right? Well, no, it was actually kind of hard because your satellite dish has to constantly be moving and tracking this sucker as it's going around. It's not like in one stationary location in the sky, like most of the television satellite dishes. They don't move. This one was tracking. And Russian television did polar orbiting television satellites. Why? Because they were across like nine, ten time zones and it made more sense to use polar orbiting than the equatorial orbiting. Geosynchronous orbit mode. We'd have an hour or so a new Russian satellite would come into view and the signal had to automatically switch from one satellite to another every half an hour. And this went around the clock. Sophisticated satellite tech for the '80s. But that's what you needed. And Henry would track that, make VHS recordings of Russian television shows that were going on. He'd take them down to the, I guess there's the consulate. Consulate. Yeah, consulate in Pacific Heights in San Francisco. This would get him familiar with the staff. They'd all got their favorite TV shows, but they loved the watch. And so they were inclined to do good things for Henry. And Henry liked that because he liked to do things in Russia, including sending the likes of us there. That's on little trips. So it was an interesting time. That was like the '88, '89, '90 time period. It's been a lot happened with our particular tribe and the end of the Cold War. It was a chapter that I don't think has been fully told yet. Oh, you mean because of Henry Degan and the contributions he made to that conversation? Yeah, there's a lot of elements. There's the Joel and Diane Schatz that came from that too, who created the first email with the Soviets. They actually lived in Moscow for a while and got email working for us to communicate to Russia. Now, that's not a big deal today. Now we have email everywhere on the planet, not just email, but full FaceTime video calls, anywhere, anywhere for practically nothing. But then it was a huge deal just to get email. Up there goes the bandwidth again. Oh, no. Just for a reference, we're using etheric networks to connect. That is a private communications company in the Bay Area that we've been using up here since-- Since we came here in 2004. And it works by having a-- we have a direct terrestrial dish, 5.8 gigahertz connection to the top of Loma Prieta, which is the highest mountain in the Santa Cruz Mountains. Yeah. It's 20 miles away. It bristles with antennas and we're able to connect with them. Everything else is out here. I mean, AT&T is marginal. T-Mobile is useless. It's like DSL speeds. Forget it. 128 kilobits per second. But etheric. Yeah, etheric is-- Oh, etheric is-- We love you, Alexander. Yeah, I'm going to say-- you know, with at least 15 megabits per second, we're able to-- Yeah. Oh, what was that? Something just-- Bobby has dropped off. Bobby dropped off. Okay. I heard that one. Oh, and there when our phones-- our phones dropped too during that same moment. That's Bobby. There you go. Okay. Hi, Bobby. You're back. So it blips in the-- Those blips, boy. Well, we want it. It's interesting how they ripple through the system. You know, you see them in different places at different times. The first place we saw them was on your machine, Al, and then we saw them show up on the broadcaster and then all of a sudden the Apple-- That's hardening this feature. Let's do an analysis and see how we can improve the system. Oh, well. Make it stormproof. Yeah. What do you think? Yes. The same. It's very interesting. Yes, the first stormproof podcasting studio. Yes. That's what we need. How do we do that? That's a big question. It's kind of like an X-prise. The podcast X-prise. Build a podcast studio that'll work anywhere, anytime. All you have to do is turn it on. Yes. We're still pretty much in the storm, even though the actual storm has passed the aftermath is still in existence. Yeah, we're debating whether we're going to go out today to get gasoline or wait till tomorrow. There were long lines at the local gas station. Yeah, we heard rumor has it that you sat in the rain and wind in your car for an hour just to get gas for your generator because power was down everywhere. Yeah. And gas goes fast when you're running a generator. Let me tell you. Mm-hmm. I mean, fortunately, we have a battery system we charge with the generator. If I had to leave the generator on all the time just to run the house-- Forget it. I mean, every five or six hours I'd be out filling in another five gallon gas can. It was better when we had diesel. We had a diesel generator for me a year. We have a 60 gallon tank. Yeah. It's gone. It's been out of commission for about a year now. November. Oh, OK. You're keeping track. I am, man. I am. I'm waiting for you to fix it. Yeah, I was going to wait a while. Diesel mechanic. Doctor future diesel mechanic. I don't think so. Oh, hey, it looks like we got a call. Let's see who's calling it. Master now. Looks like we got a live one. Yeah, lost Bobby. Oh, we did. We lost Bobby. Yeah. Oh, there he is. I'm back. Couple second. There's a master now. Oh, you're a master now. Master now. Master now. It's here. So nice to hear from you. Yes. Yeah, you sounded like you needed to check your calling numbers and with a weather story. And well, here we are. Here he is. Georgia. How's everything? Great. That's all I hear. The weather in Georgia when we're having the disaster. That's great. Thanks. No, no, but I wanted to tell you the weather. Story from last year. Oh, thank you. Oh, weather story from last year. You mean when we got flooded out at the beach house? That one? Nope. When the tree fell and Jaya had moved her car five minutes early, so she didn't get crushed. She followed her intuition. That's Mrs. Now. Hey, Jaya. Mrs. Now. Hey. She's very told of Mrs. Now, but I'm going to call her never miss now. Good. She moved the car. Let me get this. Is she got an intuition to move the car and she did? You know that tree. You used to live with that tree. You probably read that tree. Absolutely. I'm tree. The biggest tree there. Next to the shed. Next to the shed. Oh, yeah. Right. Exactly where her car had been five minutes earlier. Yes, right. I think it fell on the parking area. That's a big parking area that's cleared. So nothing really got her. They crunched one of the tents, but there was nothing significant damage. I mean, you know, water and stuff, but nothing. I mean, the car would have been a big deal. It did block us in for a while. Yeah, I was going to say, how long did it take you to dig out to cut that tree? Well, it actually took several days because we didn't have a chainsaw that would do it. And the guys that were going to do it ended up having a much bigger tree next door. And it took them so long they ran out of time and they apologized. It said, sorry, we just can't do it. So you guys were treated in for a few days, huh? Yeah. Yeah, we were. But, you know, well, that's happening right now all over town. Yeah, people are trapped in life in the mountains. Yeah. And then that same storm is the one that I think took redwood trees down into two houses on Bear Creek Road. Mm hmm. That same storm right through the houses. No one got hurt. It's just a real blessing to miracle really. Yeah. Well, this time of year, really. This is when you really have to be ready for anything because this is the worst weather of the year. I'm not ready for wildfires in the middle of the winter. I wouldn't do that. No, no, no. That's summertime. No, you can be. But you can be. It's ready for change. Change, right? And then there's a chance that you might do okay. Be ready. Ready for change. Ready for what? Right. Right. That storm last year, it took out trees that have been there for hundreds of years. I'm sure some of the big redwoods that came down were 100 years old and they were big. Yeah. Yeah. It's phenomenal what these big storms are doing right now. Isn't that big tree on our property? And next door was a bigger tree. They made through 80, 81, 82, all those storms, all that 120 inches of rain and downpours and floods. They made it through all of that stuff. No problem. Now I'm just curious, Master Now, you guys have relocated to Georgia. I'm sure a lot of the folks listening are buddies of yours and they'd love to hear a little report from you about how life in Georgia is treating you and what is it you all believe is going to happen in the future and how's your food for us coming along? That is, she's giving you a softball here, man. That is a lot of material. A softball. You want to give me a hardball? Yeah. What do you want to know, doctor? I want to know how bad the weather gets there. You know, I mean, I don't want to just hear how great their life is. I mean, I do do. I do, but not necessarily. No, I don't think they're bad again. I'll tell you how bad it gets. Well, I want to tell you how great it is. Yes, see what I mean? Yes. Never miss it. Never miss it now. Yeah. Yeah. No, I believe in greatness personally and greatness is like Maui in terms of weather or here in the summertime. That's greatness for me. I did it. I did it. No, I will tell you the bad and the ugly. No, I can most exist. It's sunny and beautiful today and I don't have to wear a jacket or anything. It's so wonderful. And here's Mr. Nail. Oh, like in the '50s or so? Yeah. Okay. So the biggest first surprise was it went down below freezing for a week last year, not this year. That was unseasonably cold and it killed every like nine bushes that should have made it through the winter. It was just too cold for too long. So one of those was very established and right next to the house are called butterfly bushes. So our whole butterfly garden plan went out the window with Jack Frost. So 32 degrees for about a week. Below that it would get down to five and get up to 28 and back down to seven and up to whatever. I don't know if it ever got down to five last year, but it did this year. We've had two nights down to five where we are. Yeah. But right now we're in the '50s and last week we were in the '60s. But I think that's unseasonably warm. Yeah. And certainly five degrees. It's a low for around here. It's not usual. Yeah. Yeah. The storms do tend to hit Ashland more than us. Asheville, sorry. Asheville. Don't get any of the hurricanes. You don't get any of the Florida hurricanes in Georgia there. They always seem to go around us and I'm very grateful for that. Around you. Really? It's not that we haven't lost trees. They're all pines and none of them are big like those there. They're all much smaller. But they come down and it's always exciting when they do. Nothing's done anything but break a clothesline and that was nothing. Yeah. So all that's fine. So you're feeling safe now, safer than when you were here having these giant pine trees fall on your garage tent. Well, to be honest, I always felt safe in our little hilltop retreat up until the fires started and we got evacuated a few times. Yeah. I felt less safe. Yes. I feel like the situation does create a little trauma. Yeah. Yeah. I never was worried about the end or rain because we're at the top. We don't have floods up there. We might not be able to leave but I was prepared for that. Yeah. But I wasn't prepared for that. Probably the same gust of wind that took, a gust of wind that took the top off of our outside patio table that we had pretty much already sold and it sailed it up like a Frisbee into our lighting glass door and punctured that in glass everywhere. You saw the pictures of that one. Yeah. Yeah. It was a really beautiful picture of what happened to that glass door. Oh, yeah. And the wind. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Got broken into a bunch of shards and then it was stuck in the frame there. It was really like special effects. I was four feet on the other side of that and it was extremely surprising to go at the top. Yes. And I'm, and we're just very grateful that the door stopped it. So all, all was well there. But I was dragging my feet to leaving because I love it there. But it's like the universe is saying, move along, move along. Yeah. And now they've told the house so it all worked out. Yeah. Yeah. Well, let me ask you this as both of you guys, oh, I should all three, I got to ask you. Would you rather be in as a veteran of California weather conditions, a bad storm like we just had or an earthquake? Well, for me, you know my earthquake story, which was extraordinary and I'm lucky to be alive. Yeah. But I am alive and wasn't damaged at all. So for me, earthquakes, they're rare. And so I haven't been too concerned about those. Now bad storms with the wind and the rain and such, I'm more worried about fire where we were, fire was my big issue. The rest of it, I feel like I could deal with fire. I don't really have a solution for it, other than to run. So here we don't really have that. We get enough rain that fires aren't bad. Cold is bad. Sometimes it'll snow and very seldom will last. Now I forgot something like eight inches in a storm just a month ago, which was their entire yearly amount. And then it was huge for them. And we got an inch maybe, but it didn't last. It melted after a day. So for whatever reason, that storm hit Nashville. But we had to drive to Nashville the following couple of days and ended up driving over ice. I hadn't done that in a while. We never get to do that in Santa Cruz. Thank goodness. So driving over ice, even on what is supposed to be a highway, I've done it before because I've done a lot of driving. But it's not something I recommend if you can avoid it. It's a little nerve-wracking, especially when there's hills and ups and downs and curves. And it's a Tulane Road because we had to do some of that too. We had a good car for it. All well-drive, et cetera, et cetera. It is a great car to have for all that. So those are the bads. And then the other bad is that the cultural creative, this amazing group of people you have in your extended family there. And I still claim as my extended family. They're unsurpassed, unbeatable, they're unique in the world. They're awesome. I mean, they're just awesome. What we have here are just good folk who will take care of you. They'll do what's needed. They'll come and do anything for you. It's amazing. They're super friendly. But they're more interested in alcohol than other things. And it's just a different thing. Yeah. So the culture is a little different. But compatible, a different but compatible, not like serious redneck. Oh, they're very compatible. No, they're definitely-- That's a thing. Communication is a thing. Yeah. If you're in trouble and need help, they're going to be here as fast as anyone anywhere. They're just good. But if you start-- But if you start-- Can you talk to them about concepts like a decentralized god and not get crucified? [LAUGHTER] It helps have-- I'm going to say they're not as open to that. But some of them-- [LAUGHTER] We could go by-- Yeah, yeah. --and go by you just a mile away. And that's a school that teaches healing. So we have a bit of that. And then they're-- Well, you know, they're fundamental issues. You believe in god or not, right? You know, that's teaching people how to use your intuition, how to do healing, how to heal trauma. And so they're doing all kinds of good stuff. So that might be what we certainly could. And their healing center, one of the main buildings there, there's three white buildings in a circle. And one of them has the pyramid. And underneath that pyramid, the only thing it's used for is healing. And it's almost every Friday night. So for the uninitiated-- No. --now, wait a minute. So I just want to explain to people that-- so this is a spiritual community in the mountains of Georgia, near the Tennessee border. That practices healing, like laying out of hands. No, no. No, no, no. I can't believe that. They believe the juices coming through them that they're a conduit of divine energy. Yeah. They can embrace that concept. Always through them. Yeah. Always through them. Never from them. It could be considered like Reiki, but they don't call it Reiki. They call it other things. But they have a-- They would never take responsibility for being the source of the healing energy. Oh, no. Yeah. So that's the differences. But they give that away. They give that away to whoever shows up on the nights they do it. I think both are true. Yeah. I mean, I think they can transmit it through them. And they are also putting out their own divine Jews simultaneously with their transmitting. So the decentralized model, all of it is God. Oh, yeah. I'm all over that one. Okay. Okay. That's your mission then. Make sure others understand that too. I do believe. That tree that almost hit the car, that was God being very nice to me. [LAUGHTER] It's like-- It's like-- Yeah. And those trees blocked your road. I didn't hear last week's podcast until yesterday. Yeah. But I didn't realize that even before the big storm, you had already had a mud slide that took out access to your place. Yeah, we lost access. And during the big storm last year, I had an opportunity to have some trauma with the ocean or to be one with the ocean. In that moment-- Oh, yes. --I'm being thrown across the room. You're feeling the brews on your knee and stuff? Yeah. That's a moment. That's a teaching moment for me. It's a teaching moment. Yeah. And yes, I get it. I love my ankles. Yeah. And I have very high regard for your ankles too, Dr. Stu, because they worked so well for so long. They did. It really is. I really could use some healing energy on my ankle. That's for sure. Yeah. Yeah. So we will definitely be sending some. Thank you. I appreciate your prayers. It's true. I do think that it does make a difference to have friends who love you to put out good energy towards you, especially when you need some healing. And prayer circles and all that are pretty amazing. I think some of those ideas could live in many cultures and be a good normal. Yeah. Looks like we have a blip. You're right. That's it. They're done. There they went. All right. Well, thanks for the calls, everybody. That was really fun while it lasted. Yes. Back. Another blip on the screen, but it's okay. Just another blip in the call. Okay. So is the master now still here? No, we lost him in the blip. Yeah, he blasmed us to that, but he's listening, I'm sure. Yeah, he's out there. You want to say something to him? Yeah. I have to say I've been experimenting with methylene blue and it was his recommendation. Yeah. I would say there's also something called hydrogen water that you can get. I've heard about that lately. It all works on the mitochondria and it just gives you a lot more energy and it's used as an anti-aging drug, I would say. Methylene. Methylene blue. It's been around for a while. It's been around for a while. Since 1867, it's discovered by a German chemist. 1860. Right back there with Laudenham. Yeah. It's legal still, right? So there's no... Yes, it's classified as an essential medicine by the world health organization. You find it in every hospital. If you have cyanide poisoning or any kind of carbon monoxide poisoning where you're lacking oxygen, this will actually give you methyl groups which are hydrogen atoms which you could actually breathe or live without oxygen. Methylene blue. I think we should probably do a whole segment on that at some point. Yeah. Yeah. Two minutes is not enough to really go into that. I want to go on some of the other topics. Sure. According to Wikipedia, it's used for the management and treatment of methaglobinemia, blood of globinemia, whatever that is. Well, treatment, yeah. Which can arise from certain kinds of ingestion of certain pharmaceuticals, toxins, or broad beans. Beans. Oh dear. Well, I guess it has its medical use and it probably has its long-term aging effects. It says it's used as an antidote. Antiaging. Antiaging effects. Anti-aging effects. Anti-dote to cyanide poisoning. That's true. Anti-nide poisoning robs you of oxygen. So, anytime where you don't have enough oxygen in your system to the mitochondria, then you can use methylene blue instead. It says it's also a dye. Yes. That's where blue genes came from. That's a plain blue. Seriously. A good healthy reason to wear jeans. It was used for malaria originally. And actually, hydroxychloroquine is derived from methylene blue. Really? So, it's a more fundamental than hydroxychloroquine. Oh, just a minute. Yes. So, they just use quinine back. First, they use methylene blue for malaria. And it was very effective. And then they found quinine, which is derived from methylene blue. And it worked even better. So, that's why it's not used today. There's a quinine of therapeutic capacities. Yes. Every hospital, if you have any kind of carbon monoxide or cyanide poisoning or any kind of or septic shock is another one. They have methylene blue. You just add methylene blue and you're good to go. Huh. It looks like they sell it on Amazon. Yeah. I would order it from CZTL. And guess what? It's time to go. CTE. Oh, it's over. Okay. At least the first hour. We'll be back. Try to get me to link some news. Yeah, we'll be back after the block. But, yeah, send me a link. I'll put it in our links page. Thanks, Bobby. Sure. It's methylene blue. We'll be back after the break. Welcome back to Future Now. We're live again. I'm here in San Francisco. It's really the storm aftermath. The brunt of the storm has passed us, but we're still experiencing the after effects, including all the technological failures and cleanup that we need to do as a result of this. And I heard LA got hit really bad too. Well, Richard Craig did tell us this morning that 9 trillion gallons of water have fallen on California since February. 9 trillion. Remember we had water shortage not that long ago? I have no idea what's normal. It's all about capturing the water. How do we capture it? It just flows off into the ocean. 9 trillion gallons. Oh, yeah, capture is a really hard thing to do. That's how I frame my ankle actually, scrambling around trying to capture water. Yeah, got to be careful on right there. The water off the roof, big barrels of water filling every few moments, trying to move those barrels around on a muddy hillside. It's easy to slip. Hoping to heal that that Georgia healing energy was coming my way. The other thing about storms is that we were talking about the pace satellite that NASA is putting up that will give us much more resolution and detail of what's going on on the planet in terms of the weather conditions and the creatures in the ocean. Well, what's interesting is that NASA is using some of the best equipment out there. But Norwegians, now the Norwegians, have created a super tiny cube site. The microwave in space. Yeah, it's really a hundred times cheaper that can do a lot of the stuff that the big satellites can do. It's a major communication breakthrough, for example, because they're using the laser connection with the ground. Now, that's something that Starlink does. Starlink's are very expensive satellite. This does that kind of laser connection to the ground and each other that allows it to have a mesh network of high bandwidth communications that ultimately would be competitive with Starlink, but much cheaper. Yeah, Norwegians. I believe there were pioneers in the cell phone world. Yeah, there's what was it? Palm. It was a palm Norwegian before that. Nokia was Finnish and then the Norwegian one was Blue. Oh, they discovered Bluetooth. Oh, they did. They're Bluetooth people. But what was the other company that Microsoft bought? Ericsson. That was it. Ericsson. Ericsson. I think they were the cell company. Well, in this case, this was developed by the Space Flight Laboratory, SFL, for the Norwegian Space Agency. That's their NSA, the Norwegian Space Agency. It's a milestone in the design and it puts them in a club of organizations that do these kinds of capabilities but with much more expensive equipment. Optical laser connection. A large amounts of data is the first use, but also Earth observation because they're in low with orbit, they'll be able to look at maritime ship tracking. We're able to see where all the ships are, which would be of interest to many companies and ships out there and people that track maritime. Also, it will have instruments on board that can do atmospheric tracking and use this laser communication to send that information back to the planet quickly and easily to anybody who wants that information. So it kind of democratizes the satellite data. NASA is creating great stuff with their satellites, but this is a commercial that makes it available for specific non-NASA uses like tracking shipping. I bet you you could probably track airplanes too with it. Track submarines. That's probably more the pace system would do that than NASA machine. Maybe these guys will just track cell phones. Well, they'll track anything. Look, they can aim it in any direction. They can aim at the Earth or they can stay in Earth or they can aim it outward and look at the other planets and look at the galaxy and get all kinds of information on that depending on what sensors you have on your CubeSat. Because sensors are getting small and cheap and the satellites are getting small and cheap. It's just going to make that information about the universe more available to everyone. To me, what makes it transcendent is to have this kind of capability is if we start thinking about allowing other creatures of nature to have access to the information that our satellites are collecting. You always want to hook up the animals. Well, what if the dolphins in the whales knew that a hurricane was bearing down on the direction they were going? Would they want to know that? Well, you got to wonder what tools they already have access to. Well, then you communicate with those. They probably have certain whales, cetaceans that are their weather that tune into the weather more. They're weather sentience. Those would be the ones you'd connect with and give them maybe information around that makes sense to them. If you know a tornado is coming or a larger storm like a hurricane or a cyclone, what would it sound like to a whale, a cetacean? What signal do they pay attention to? How much does the under-ocean environment need to respond to the air atmosphere? I mean, there's a barrier between them. Maybe there's actually a huge safety net that the ocean has very different weather and very different priorities. What do you say? I'm saying that a tornado in the atmosphere may have limited impact on what's going on in the ocean. Okay. I think they probably have sensors for low frequencies so they could probably detect an earthquake in the ocean and then detect a tidal wave coming from it. They could give us that information before we even got that information. Yeah, because they have very good, highly tuned, biologically evolved sensors that pay attention to the environment. And big ears. Well, yeah, I agree with that. We're all insane. What if we know their capabilities and we just extend their capabilities a little and give them super power? Or if they could share it with us. Yes. They could combine the two. They could be our weather beings that would tell us information from their point. So really what we want to do is give the whales whale cell phones so that they could send out a message that the whales would be all tuned into and then we could have some AIs translated into human so that we'd know what they were saying. Yeah, we'd have better communication with that. Right. We want to Google translate AI for the whales. Weather information from the whales to us. And vice versa. I want to know what they're saying in real time. We'll show you ours if you show you theirs. That's right. I wonder if whales are capable of getting addicted to smartphones. I don't think so. Maybe that's a humans only activity. You know, well, monkeys like that kind of stimulation. I'm not sure. At least the ones we know. But better communication I think in every event and sharing of information with other species I think would be a good thing to do. But it's got to be done right, of course. Oh, OK. Yeah. It's easy to mess up with that. Yeah. Especially if some jokers get on and start sending fake information to the cetaceans about weather patterns. You wouldn't want that. I'll take you away. Yeah. Fake news. Yeah, fake news to the animals. That would be a real carnal sandwich, wouldn't it? What else you got on our links page today, my dear? Besides the tiny Norwegian CubeSat, parasitic worms that can kill cancer cells. Oh, that's a very interesting article. Yeah. Yeah, I like that one. I do. I think it's a real eye opener. I think it is one of those kinds of research that is both fascinating and repulsive. I'm just saying to my-- No, I'd rather not do repulsive. Really? Why did you put it in the mix? Because it's good to have in the mix when necessary. But now that we've got satellites like the pace is going to be able to spot these little nematodes in the ocean. Yeah, yeah. They'll know what their roles are. Yeah. The AI is going to adjust the communications with them. Right. This is breaking news about hydrogel inventions. Like talking about using technology for the other animals. These people who want to inoculate, they want to treat cancer with nematodes, which are parasitic single celled, they're little worms. They're tiny little microscopic marine dwelling worms. And the people developing cancer treatments are experimenting with dressing these little nematodes with a hydrogel, which of course is one of the big breakthroughs with the mRNA viral technology. And this hydrogel allows these nematodes to deliver toxic chemicals to cancer cells that can kill the cancer cells. And this particular article is basically talking about delivering something that sounds like wasabi to cancer cells. Like giving the nematodes this space suit made of hydrogel that protects them from the wasabi while they deliver the wasabi to the cancer cells. Yeah, I know. If your payload is poisoned, you've got to protect yourself from your payload. Yeah. But it's just fascinating the way they're thinking about it, right? They want to get the worm to deliver the goods to the cancer cells. That's right. All you're attracted to cancer cells are you? Well, let's take advantage of that. Sure. And use you as an agent of destruction of them. What are you saying? Well, what about when they're done with the cancer cells? What are they going to do with the rest of the cells that aren't cancer cells? Can we control them then? What do the parasites do when they're not carrying cancer cells? When they're not killing cancer cells. Well, with their wasabi. They were the attractive. Super weapons. It's turning their attraction into the death of the cell. You see? It's very clever. Yes. So it's very clever that they've noticed that they can use living chemicals to deliver these chemical toxins, they can use nematodes. But the big question is what's going to happen to... Well, here's the thing. I don't think parasites are known for their loyalty. Let's see. We've got a little comment from Greg about the nematodes. I'll be a joke knowing him. The nematodes showed up for the annual Met Gala, dressed in the finest air gel. Such a latest AI picture for us. Yeah, we need to see the rendition of that. Nobody interviewed them on the red carpet. In fact, they got crushed on the red carpet. What would be the prompt for this? Marine dwelling nematode worm seeking out cancer cell wearing hydro gel spacesuit. There you go. Hydro gel spacesuits for nematodes at the Met. Let me see that. Put that in the video version here. I have no internet on my computer here, but I think you do. The story is about how you can finally buy gene hacked houseplants that glow in the dark. Oh, that sounds really fun. Actually, I hope it's not bad for the ecosystem, but I think it's fascinating. Yeah, put it up on your machine, Mrs. Future. I think you get it done. All right, I'll pull it up on my machine. I heard about this about 10 years ago. Well, there's been some evolution in that. That's right. It's been evolving. Gene hacked houseplants that glow in the dark. These are 100 times brighter than the old versions. Not your average plant dad vibe. That's right. Yeah, it's bioluminescence. I believe this one is using a bioluminescent gene from fungi. Firefly. No, Firefly was the original, one of the originals. Firefly and... Oh, but... Is this bioluminescence like what we see from in the ocean? Yes. Yeah, that's a number of critters that glow in the dark. And it's that glow in the dark gene that's been put into a houseplant that makes it nice to have in your living room. A kind of a night light for the television. Yeah. In a nighttime, it would just glow. It's a ginkgo plant? I don't know if you want to feed it. I don't think it's a meat eating plant or anything. No, no, here. Let's see. So in a study published last month in the Journey Nature Methods, a consortium of Russian scientists explained how they were able to enhance the "self-sustained luminescence effect first gleaned from neo-nothopanis nambi," which is otherwise known as the poisonously glowing puff ball mushroom found in south that mineral. Yeah, mushroom. Right. It's a south American mushroom. Yeah. And so it was used to create glowing tobacco plants. Back in 2020. And since then, it's been used to make all kinds of plants glow, but only barely. So this is a really big great-- A hundred times more. A hundred times more. Yeah. So they gene-hacked the plants, and now they've got these gorgeous, quite luminous petunias called light bio. Let's see. We're getting messages from Greg who's saying the glow in the dark houseplants are the favorite domicile of fireflies, luciferin. Yeah, I believe. Yeah, I will suffer on you. Time to eat and watch football. Chef Ben here from the back nine grilling bar at the Pasadena Poexit. Every football game, every Sunday, starting at 10 a.m. We have dollar wings, a breakfast sandwich, and beverage specials. Monday and Thursday night football as well. Lunchball, all day Saturday. Other sports? Oh, yeah. Time to eat and watch football. Take the easy off Pasadena Poexit from 17. See you at the nine. Cannabis is one of nature's most beneficial plants. So at Treehouse, we use it to build community. 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What's kind of fun about it is that houseplants that glow-in-the-dark have been around for a while, but this is the first time it's been commercially available where you could actually buy a glowing houseplant thanks to this fungal gene that glows in the dark from South America. The gene was initially used to create glowing tobacco plants. That's where you put it in your pipe and smoke it, kind of thing. Back in 2020, that's when they started to see that they could make all kinds of plants glow. But only barely. There wasn't a lot of brightness to it. The newer research, they've hacked the fungi's eukaryotes to glow up to 100 times brighter than those first efforts. Bataunia, Bataunia plants, a company called Light Bio. Is there a website? There it is. L-H-G-H-T-B-I-O. Now, there's an investment for you, huh? Yeah. It's already a dark glassplant. It's made by millions on glow-in-the-dark houseplants. Didn't the Netherlands have a tulips investment? Glow-in-the-dark tulips? They weren't glow-in-the-dark. They were novel tulips. The CEO's got him Keith Wood, and he bragged about how it's a magical experience that he's bringing to people across the country. And his idea has been around since the '80s, but has never really been brought to market like this. What occurs to me is that can you include other genes as well as the glow-in-the-dark gene? Which genes would you include? The ones that make your hair grow? Well, I'd say glow-in-the-dark gene is good. But I would... I wonder if there's any genes that allow plants to make sounds? The genes, huh? Then the plant could both make sounds and light, and then maybe respond to music or a light shell or something, and the plant responds to it. Do we see something like that at the New Living Expo? Yeah, they had some kind of live Baxter technology hooked up to plants, and these plants were actually playing music. Right, right. They were playing music. Yeah. They're not needing batteries. That's right, Greg. It's like Pandora, where things glow and they're biological. They don't need batteries. I keep blowing. All our stuff needs batteries, our technology, to make things glow. Okay. I think it's an investment opportunity for the right people. For the right people. It's going to be very popular. I think you're right about that. The guys who wrote about it are a little embarrassed by it. They think it's a little cringy topic, but I don't know. I think glowing plants are cool. Well, I think there is a big divide between people who are Gung Ho, Pro, let's mess with our genes and see what we can create versus people who are like, "No, what's wrong with you, crazy scientists? You're going to ruin Mother Nature." Yeah, that's because humans have often jumped the gun and done some major. What's your mess ups, shall we say? Introducing strange animals to different parts of the world, or eucalyptus trees to California. What were they thinking? Yeah. Yeah. So you think glow in the dark petunias are not as bad as eucalyptus trees. I guess they're smaller. Well, you never know. You never know. Like glow in the dark plant might have some kind of other creatures might react strangely to it. Like maybe your dog might start eating it or something. You never know. I mean, or might attract some attention by certain insects. They like that kind of light. Yeah. It only existed in South America before they saw the light up here and then decided to mutate life forms appear to become light loving insects. You never know. There's an interesting story this week. Think I put it in the links page about it or why insects circle around lights. I think you did put that in the links page. Yeah, okay. Well, that's... What was the big conclusion there? I don't remember. They just zore-ing them completely. Yeah, why do they go around lights? Why would they choose that? Why are these insects such circling around the lights that are artificial? I always thought they just had bad eyesight. They thought it was maybe the sun or the moon or something. You thought it was something else? They just thought that somehow it was the same as daylight. Yeah. Well, according to this study, it's because they use the light at night for navigation purposes. Uh-huh. Like the moon. Uh-huh. That light helps them fly. So when you have a super bright artificial light, it kind of confuses them. Oh. How did the scientists come up with that insight? Did they just watch the bugs and figure it out? Yeah, they studied the bugs in great depth. Yeah. But before we get to into that, the story about the gene hacks, they can be really good, too. They don't have to be things that are just for our amusement. They can actually be useful for other things besides just entertaining us. Uh-huh. Those creatures. Yeah. You got some examples in mind. I think the best gene hack would be this. If we have the red, green, the chroma cells in the eye and the retina, there are certain animals, especially in the ocean. Yeah. There's these lobster that have this yellow chromatid. And there's a few people on the planet, like a dozen of them, that have yellow chromatid and they make excellent paint. They can see a million more hues in changes in color than normal people can. Wow. And so if we can insert this yellow into the retina of people, and when you see a sunset or you look in the horizon or something, you would see more than a rainbow. You would see millions of shades of color that no one else would see. This is a biologically derived gene. There are people who have strands of yellow in their iris. Yes, that's right. In the retina. It's not in the iris. It's actually in the back of the... It's a sensor. Oh. It's a yellow sensor. I see. Different. Hmm. An actual sensor developed that we could apply to our own vision. That's an interesting hack. Oh, okay. I got an idea for you. How about this one in futurism? This gene hack bacteria to turn waste plastic into Kevlar-like spider silk. Hmm. Sounds great. Yeah. We're really harnessing what nature has developed to do manufacturing for us. Right. Turning waste plastic into spider silk. Yeah, exactly. Now we've been hearing about different kinds of bio treatments that can digest, say, hydrocarbons, right? Plastic, waste, oil, things like that. This isn't the first time that we've heard of that, but this is actually a bacteria, right? It's not a mushroom. It's some kind of bacteria that is being used in a manufacturing process to get rid of a very prevalent form of pollution, which is this plastic material, and upcycle it into a useful, steel-like strength spider fiber. Yeah. And to be clear, the bacteria aren't exactly just chomping down on plastic outright. They had to depolymerize the plastics, applying pressure to heat them into a soft and waxy substance. And then they were through a bacteria-abetted fermentation process. So the bacteria and fermentation helped transform this plastic into this spider-like biomaterial with no extra chemicals added. Now that's interesting. Yeah. Right? Very. No extra chemicals added. I think the big thing is how do we recycle all this excess plastic in the world? They use a lot of these worms. There are these silk worms. Yeah. They're used to create vaccines. They're used to create a lot of different things. It's quite interesting. And the silk worm, they can produce seropeptase, which is how they actually dissolve the chrysalis. And it turns out, it deprotonizes, it's a protonetic enzyme, which means it dissolves protein. So specifically for people that have blood clots or lots of occlusion or developments in the bloodstream, seropeptase is used to reduce the number of heart attacks you would have, for instance. Very useful. Anyway, Kevlar is apparently made. Kevlar is a material that isn't used for body armor. So you can turn plastic into body armor. Yes. Yes. So it's bulletproof vest. Yeah. So suddenly you can get a turn of your old crap plastic into bulletproof vest. Just what we need in this new era we're going into. Yeah. Also, it's useful in car breaks as well. Air shoots were originally, they were silk and then they were experimenting with spiders, thinking that spiders web silk is actually stronger. Yeah. So it is pretty strong. Yeah. They are comparing this to spider silk. Yeah. But if they can take plastics and convert that into this strong silk type silk, yeah, that would be great. Yeah. I believe it was the... I believe that was silk was originally from worms. Wasn't it silk worms? Silk worms? Yeah, silk worms. Yes. Yeah. It makes the chrysalis. What's interesting is what they use to the protease that actually dissolves the chrysalis is another interesting chemical that these butterflies produce. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And then the chrysalis, I don't the worms turn into butterflies. So they're turning, they kind of dissolve their body into some kind of bioprody and goo. And these enzymes are part of that transition process. The transformation, yeah. The transformation from a caterpillar to a butterfly. Greg Braden gets really into that. I'm talking about the imaginal cells and that there are initially some cells that help guide the process of converting the worm into this stem cell goo, then into a butterfly. Wow. And that we at this point in time are kind of like the imaginal cells that help as society reforms itself create the new society from the stem cell goo that will happen as it melts down. I think it's the bulge. I guess in terms of the butterfly, we're in the stage right now of the butterfly eating itself and melting into goo. Well, it depends. And then we're still rapping asleep. We're still rapping asleep eating resources on the planet and we are still larval. And the imaginal cells will be emerging to create the architecture of the new wings that will emerge. At the very least, yes. It may list a fly out of here. That's right. We are tampering with some very fundamental things here. But playing with biological processes that already exist and repurposing them seems to be one of the trends happening with biotech these days. Sure. And maybe some of those things will turn into amazing new life forms and miracles. And we'll discard the ones that are freakish and zombie. Garbage into gold. Let's work on garbage into gold. That kind of thinking. I'm kind of interested in talking about the Apple Vision Pro articles that you have. Metaphorically. Oh, well, that's a joke, Mrs. Future. Garbage into gold? No. No. The Apple Vision Pro Vision show. Oh, no. That's a real thing too. But I'm saying the article, the article, it was a, it went viral. It was a video of a guy who driving his Tesla on full self-drive mode wearing a Apple Vision Pro helmet. And he got stopped by a cop for doing this. But apparently it was a bit of a skit, you know, that he was actually creating the cops. Really? He was just trying to make a big hit YouTube popular stuff. Yeah, yeah. And he was successful. And it was fortuitous. Or synchronous, you might say, that the cop was there in the scene once he was shooting it. And apparently. So it's a funny video worth checking out. Kind of makes sense too, because you would think you could be able to wear the Apple Vision Pro while you're driving, because it's got 4K cameras and you have pretty good vision, probably better than a lot of people with the uncorrected vision would have. So it kind of makes sense from a nerdish point of view. But Apple makes it very abundantly clear that driving under any circumstances wearing an Apple Vision Pro is for boat and you just don't do that. Oh, you know, according to this article, the Apple Vision Pro. It doesn't even work while you're moving. Really? It's got a sort of feature. That's what the article says. Yeah. Apparently the person trying it was only wearing it for 10 or 15 seconds at a time, total of 30 seconds. And then I believe the Apple Vision Pro doesn't even work while traveling, because the technology fails to be able to track your reference surroundings. So you can't, doesn't know where it is, so it can't help you. Yeah. Yeah, it's a joke. 12 milliseconds, latency. Well, that's pretty good. I think a nervous system is more like 250 milliseconds when you see something and you respond to it. Right. It's a 25. It's good. Yes. But Apple's official recommendation is don't wear the Apple Vision Pro while you're driving a Tesla in autopilot. Just think of the legal implications, you know, man, it's crazy. But you could, if you think about it, Apple Vision Pro could make your vision better, like with the LiDAR sensor on it, put on the roof through Bluetooth connection. You could pick up people coming from in all directions or traffic and you'll be able to see way more possibility, a much better rear view mirror function. You can see through the fog. Yeah, you can see through fog, right? You can see animals on the road, potholes, which would be very handy. I must say, up here in the mountains potholes are real. It's a special bane of my existence. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, well, here's some interesting tidbits from this article in Pop Science. Yeah. In Palo Alto where this experiment supposedly happened, the author says it's unlawful for a person to drive a vehicle if a television receiver, a video monitor or a television or video screen is operating and is visible to the driver. So you can't put on your Apple Vision Pro and drive legally in Palo Alto. All right. Well, you know, this is a changing thing, but I ask you this, how many people have a mount for their cell phone where they can see it from the driver's seat? Like everybody? Yeah, I have one. I mean, you want to see your navigational system, right? Yeah. My car does have a built in nav system, but I always use like Apple or Google Maps. That's really weird. So you can't even use those dash mounted cell phone mounts for your phone? Well, I think it's a changing mosaic. You remember it used to be that if you were even seen holding a cell phone on your hand, you could get stopped. Yeah, this sounds like if they even see one mounted on your dashboard, you're in trouble. I thought that was normal now. I think it depends on which state and the updates of the rules all the time. You just can't run Netflix while you're driving. Yeah, it's at the back seat. Fair enough. Unless you let the autopilot take over and don't get caught. Yeah. Well, you are right. Yeah, he says the author of this article says that he thinks texting and driving is way more dangerous than putting on your Apple Vision Pro. Well, there you see there's going to be lots of work. And then look at how texting has become a verbal thing. How many people use the microphone to do a texting now? Yeah. Probably a good 50% if not more. It's more convenient. So is it texting even at that point or is it more akin to a telephone call, especially if you're using voiceover? Hands-free. Hands-free mode and you hear the other text as an audio thing instead of reading it. Hearing audio is less distracting than having to direct your visual attention somewhere else. Yeah, I'm pretty used to how normal it has been for people who are on long drives to just start chatting on the phone while they're driving. Pretty normal, right? Mm-hmm. All right, how about the ultra short takeoff and landing plane? That's a whole new class of airplanes. We have regular airplanes. We have the class of airplanes that you see coming in now. The vertical takeoff and landing drone type aircraft like our very own Jobe Aviation here in Santa Cruz. Yeah. The takeoff and landing require a runway but not very long one, like a 100 feet or so. Yeah. They will open up the air possibly faster than the VTOL because they can travel further and they would fit into existing aircraft regulations more easily. Yeah, they're actually regular aircrafts. Yeah. But because of the design with the props and the computer's coordination. Electric hybrid. That's an electric hybrid, right? Yeah. And so the takeoff and landing part of it can be more like a drone whereas everything else about the flight is more like a regular airplane. Yeah, the fast juice that you can get from electrical engines allow you to take off faster and in shorter distance. They have a tremendous accelerative capacity with electric that they take advantage of. And then once you're flying though, you can just go to regular gas. This vehicle is called an Electra and they're expecting to be certified and able to sell them for people to fly on their own as early as 2028. And just in November, they flew their first piloted test drive and they're going to continue doing flight tests and continue making a nine seat prototype. The Electra has gotten a lot of presales. And when it comes out in 2028, there's a lot of people very excited to have a short takeoff and landing. This looks like something that you could take off and land on the top of a building, for instance. The landing runway that you need looks like it's maybe only 50 feet or so, maybe less than that. Yeah, it's really short. I think it's like 100. Yeah. But still, it'll open it up. There are a lot more 100 foot runway locations around than there are a thousand or longer for that it takes for normal airplanes, many more places where you can land, have smaller airports. But you still need airports. You see, that's where the VTOL really will take off where you don't need airports per se. And that could become the norm if we have the battery tech to support it. The biggest problem with the vertical takeoff and landing machines is the fuel, the fuel issue. I know there are hybrid versions that are being worked on as well as all electric. If you can get it all electric and have a 500 mile range, then it makes it competitive with these short take off and landing vehicles. They're about a 500 mile distance. And right now, the all electric are less than 200 miles in terms of how far they can fly per flight. The short takeoff could lead for a while, but they do need to use concurrent airports or new airports that are smaller. You can just take it out of your driveway and run it up your road. You might have that freedom yet. You never know. A lot of the early barnstormers were just farm kids that had long, empty highways outside their farm. Maybe you have a steep hill. You can go down here. You have a steep hill near you, don't you, Bobby? San Francisco? Yeah, I do. It's one of the steepest. There you go, proper for a short take off. And we have these skateboarders going down this thing. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. This plane looks like a regular small, hyper-type aircraft, but it's got eight propellers, eight props on it. And I guess they're electric prop. And so the electricity, you get a lot more torque, and so it's like having jet engines on this little tiny plane. And that's why I can take off a short runway. That's really clever. Yes, it is. It looks like these short takeoff and landing will get approved faster than the V-TAL, the vertical takeoff and landing, because they're so similar to regular airplanes. Yeah, they can still fly even if the props don't work. Because they have wings and rudders and tails and things like that. But remember, like cars, the electric cars, they were first hybrids, and then later they went pure electric. So yeah, it's probably similar to a vehicle, right? Yeah, well hybrids feel like a safety step, right? You're moving in the right direction, but you don't let go of everything you're already familiar with. Basic specs, nine passengers and a pilot, luggage, 500 miles, 805 kilometers at a cruise speed of around 200 miles an hour, 322 kilometers. Running with eight electric props along the leading edge of the wings, as well as really large flaps hanging from the trailing edges. The flaps allow you what they call a blown lift aerodynamic effect. It's a powerful enough to lift off at about 35 miles an hour. Yeah, that's a lot less than a regular plane. I think most planes don't take off until like 85 or more. Or what was the DeLorean, which is 88. Back to the future. Yeah, over the time travel. But it's up there for airplanes too. Airfields 300 by 100 feet. It seems like we didn't talk about EO, did we? That's a good one to finish on. That is where we're studying one of the moons of Jupiter. We got two flybys just recently on that. Extra ordinarily close pictures of it. And you know what's fascinating about EO? What? It's that they had an inforometer looking at hotspots on it. And there were over 260 hotspots indicating volcanism all over the entire surface of the planet. Yeah, so interesting. I've all had live volcanoes by the hundreds. Yeah, and those volcanoes appear to be getting created by the massive gravitational pull of orbiting around Jupiter. So EO is getting stretched. That's how it gets hot. That's how it gets hot. And then it has hundreds of volcano hotspots. That's right. It doesn't belong on the surface. There's so many of them. It kind of looks like it's got really bad acne. Hot spots. There's a lot around the poles, even more around the poles. There might actually be a large molten core or a large molten center from which all of these hotspots are coming. Right. So they're really interested in looking deeper and seeing what's creating so much volcanism on EO. And of course, it was just a month ago that NASA had a probe going within a thousand miles of EO and getting some really interesting close-ups, some photos. Yeah, yeah, this is part of a dual close-up. Right. It's the heat map of the close-up. Yes. Oh, twin flybys. Yes, that's right. Clear signs of volcanic activity over the entire planet. You know, the main volcano is Prometheus. Good name for it. Passing fire to humanity, huh? Yes, those planetary scientists do have a sense of humor. Oh, they do. The big issue is this lava ocean underneath the crust. It's a pure discovery. They don't know and they really like to know. And our little flybys might give us a few more clues as to what's causing the massive volcanism. Oh, boy, EO. So the third largest moon of Jupiter is being scrutinized because we had some recent flybys. And say goodbye to the Mars helicopter. Oh. Bye Mars helicopter. No more flights. Uh-huh. Yes. Was it Ingenuity? What was the name? Ingenuity. Yeah. Yeah. Serious damage to the blade unless we send a robot there to fix it. It's not going up again. 72 flights. That's it. And this is it for us calling you from the aftermath of one of the largest storms on the California coast that we've seen. I hope everybody has a great future. It's really been nice listening to everybody. Yes. Yeah. Thinking about the future together. Thanks for calling all the way from Georgia. And thank you, boys, down in La La Land. That's right. 9 trillion gallons of water in California. Ooh. Well, yeah. Thanks, Bobby, for being there. Yeah. Yes. There's stories of you. Take care. You too. So, methylene blue. Be that. One more detail.